Belle Vue V Wolverhampton 06-07-2016

[Fourentee]

Surely fricke will soon be at hl, which should flatten his average somewhat.

 

Sure, but the swings and roundabouts of that -- especially in a side going well -- under the current format is that the second string will then leapfrog him and on we go again!

You seem to be trying very hard to score a trolling point

 

You really must try to get a grip and understand that a civilised debate on a forum is not trolling just because a poster doesn't agree with your conclusions. You had a go at a poster for saying it was raining and then blamed him for you not making the trip. I suggested that you could try alternative sources. If you think it's trolling, then report it to a mod. I'm sure they don't have better things to do.

[bellevueace]

Re the track lets not forget its a brand new build and needs to settle, I think anyone can see the potential that this track will offer in seasons to come. The WC will be interesting with the calibre of rider and machinery at a higher level than we see in the EL.

[Halifaxtiger]

How anyone can moan about the Aces home track is baffling.

It's fast and riders can really chase the lines on it.

Plenty of close battles, committed races and close scraps too.

It seems unless there is passing in every race it's a bad track and meeting if you read some of the posters on here. Plain ridiculous.

It's obvious this is a track and stadium that stands head and shoulders above anything else in the UK and there seems a lot of envy going on.

 

The World Cup will show what a great track the national stadium is, that I have no doubt.

 

I didn't think it was that good. Decent, yes, very decent maybe. Certainly enough to make me go back.

 

I think its because its the best shaped track I have ever seen that I am always anticipating something special and I haven't seen it yet. Seeing Tony Swales on the tractor doesn't exactly fill you with confidence, either.

 

Best stadium - yes (although Kent isn't far away, its grandstand is bigger). Best track - potentially, yes, but based upon recent experience others (Scunthorpe for one) are better for racing.

 

I really hope you're right about the World Team Cup, because its also certain that it could be very good indeed.

Edited July 7, 2016 by Halifaxtiger

[foamfence]

 

Plenty of races last night had riders of similar ability playing follow-my-leader.

 

Noticed that P Adams was even more grumpy than usual when asked what he thought of the new stadium - comments to the effect that it should be good, the money they've thrown at it. I can understand this - you see more passing at Monmore in one race than I saw in the whole match last night.

You need an urgent eye examination.

[TheReturn]

As a neutral I have to say after viewing two meetings from the new Belle Vue how fantastic and exciting this looks, a proper race track that should offer some good close racing most meetings. I thought Adams comments last night were pretty pathetic. Belle Vue have created what looks like a fantastic race track, good for them and I wish them every success with it.

[Starman2006]

 

Watched this on the box & I don't get all this "what a wonderful track" hype from KT et al. It was gate & go last night, maybe a couple of overtakes after the first two bends.

I didn't see anything last night that i wouldn't see elsewhere, nor excits me, nor frightens me sofar as Poole going up there !!

[Robert Lee]

You need an urgent eye examination.

OK. Tell me which races had any passing after the first 2 bends.

[ouch]

Heat 1.

Lindgren passed Steve.

Karlsson passed Matej.

 

Heat 2.

Immense race between Joe and Howarth.

 

Heat 3.

Cook and Klindt traded places.

 

Heat 5.

Steve passed Clegg.

 

Heat 9.

Steve and Thorsell traded places.

 

Heat 10.

Karlsson passed Craig.

 

Heat 13.

Immense race between Craig and Lindgren.

Matej passed Klindt.

 

Heat 15.

Masters passed Joe.

[BWitcher]

The only thing I dislike about the Belle Vue track is it appears to be to be 90% bike, 10% rider (assuming you have reasonable ability to ride a speedway bike).. which is a little higher than most tracks.

 

That's not to say it's a bad track, nor that it won't provide good racing.

Heat 1.
Lindgren passed Steve.
Karlsson passed Matej.

Heat 2.
Immense race between Joe and Howarth.

Heat 3.
Cook and Klindt traded places.

Heat 5.
Steve passed Clegg.

Heat 9.
Steve and Thorsell traded places.

Heat 10.
Karlsson passed Craig.

Heat 13.
Immense race between Craig and Lindgren.
Matej passed Klindt.

Heat 15.
Masters passed Joe.

 

Heat 2 wasn't an 'immense race' in the slightest. They got close on one bend, after that Jacobs just gradually pulled away.

 

Agree with the rest though.

[Starman2006]

Heat 1.

Lindgren passed Steve.

Karlsson passed Matej.

 

Heat 2.

Immense race between Joe and Howarth.

 

Heat 3.

Cook and Klindt traded places.

 

Heat 5.

Steve passed Clegg.

 

Heat 9.

Steve and Thorsell traded places.

 

Heat 10.

Karlsson passed Craig.

 

Heat 13.

Immense race between Craig and Lindgren.

Matej passed Klindt.

 

Heat 15.

Masters passed Joe.

It was no different to what you would see anywhere else. But clearly you are easily pleased..

[BWitcher]

It was no different to what you would see anywhere else. But clearly you are easily pleased..

 

No, he was merely responding to a poster claiming the meeting was poor. It wasn't.

 

Nor was it a 'great meeting'. Just a decent speedway meeting which most folk would be happy with week in, week out.

[Starman2006]

 

No, he was merely responding to a poster claiming the meeting was poor. It wasn't.

 

Nor was it a 'great meeting'. Just a decent speedway meeting which most folk would be happy with week in, week out.

And im just saying it was no different to what you would see anywhere else..So there's really no point in people trying to make it out to have been something that is wasn't.

Edited July 7, 2016 by Starman2006

[SUPERACE]

It amazes me that when some go on about how good a meeting was, some ask how many passes was there. As a big speedway fan i dont judge great races on the number of passes. As an example i thought heat 15 last night was superb race between Lindgren and Fricke, no passes but fast close racing and a battle for four laps.

 

Last night was a superb meeting.

 

Also i can tell you watching live at this superb stadium is like no other in the elite league, the views, sound are second to none.

 

No arguments can be had that the stadium and track are a complete success and it will only get better.

Edited July 7, 2016 by SUPERACE

[Starman2006]

It amazes me that when some go on about how good a meeting was, some ask how many passes was there. As a big speedway fan i dont judge great races on the number of passes. As an example i thought heat 15 last night was superb race between Lindgren and Fricke, no passes but fast close racing and a battle for four laps.

 

Last night was a superb meeting.

 

Also i can tell you watching live at this superb stadium is like no other in the elite league, the views, sound are second to none.

 

No arguments can be had that the stadium and track are a complete success and it will only get better.

Be even better when you get a proper crowd for the World cup..

Edited July 7, 2016 by Starman2006

[SUPERACE]

And im just saying it was no different to what you would see anywhere else..So there's really no point in people trying to make it out to have been something that is wasn't.

I can tell you that you wont get an overall speedway experience anywhere else like belle vue, the views and sound of the bikes and quality of the experience are second to none.

 

Perfect views where ever in the stadium you sit/stand, close to the track and even at the lowest view point your are elevated above the track, looking down with the perfect view. The bikes roar like no other stadium due to the great acoustic barrier. The track is the best shape in the uk by far and racing will only get better as time goes by. The track allows four riders to ride out of there skin for four laps, close to each other without fear of crashing.

[SCB]

Sometimes just the belief there will be a pass is enough. I thought it was an above average meeting, I enjoyed it.

[sparkafag]

Belle Vue is excellent, everything about it is good, it is fresh, new and adds to the personality of the sport in this country.

 

The World Cup will probably elevate it a level when the top riders come and find lines others haven’t.

[John Leslie]

Sometimes just the belief there will be a pass is enough. I thought it was an above average meeting, I enjoyed it.

When the best rider gated, they won without needing to pass.

When the best rider didn't gate, they won by passing.

When two riders of equal ability met, they rode shoulder to shoulder.

 

There were no instances of a better rider being stuck behind and unable to pass because the track is too narrow/a bad shape/rutted/badly prepared etc.

 

So that's good speedway.

[ytsejam]

Think that rule is ridiculous for 2 minutes, so aslong your on he track? So really you could park your bike on the track and completely redo your bike? Should be at the tapes as it used too be!

 

Howarth, how awful???? Jacobs pissing all over him so far and that's Jacobs!

 

Agree totally about the 2 min rule. When did that change, I still thought that riders had to be up at the gate ready to go by the time the 2 mins were up.

[FAST GATER]

I can't think why anyone would not be impressed with the NSS , IMO it ticks all the boxes and is a great testament to the B/V promotion who are rightly proud of it .All of us should be pleased that the sport has something to be admired and I am sure the crowds will increase and the track will become a favourite with all riders .