Move Over The Elite League.

[damosuzuki]

There is usually plenty of overtaking at Glasgow. Masters just doesn't like us very much. I look forward to next weeks EL meetings as well tbh.

[orion]

Yet another crazy topic ...why is it that people who watch and comment about the Pl have such bias ...let's be honest whatever league or for what ever the reason the two matches on tv this week have been garbage, the only good thing was the crowd at Glasgow last night ..but somehow it's being used as a stick to beat the El up witch to be fair this year has had good match after good match ..as someone said the only snobbery comes from pl fans who for some reason have to keep saying there league is better all the time and make out that there matches are better than they are ,

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I said it million times any meeting at any time can be good ...to used the two matches this weeks as examples of why we should have a pl level speedway is laughable ..surely it's some kind of joke ?

[ruckerroo]

There is no answer to speedways ills, its dead in the water.

 

Glasgow, however have at least breathed a bit of life into the corpse and fair play to them.

 

Ok it was a derby but theyre crowd last night was twice as big as any elite league match televised this year.

 

Maybe north and south leagues arent as bad a move as some think.

[SCB]

Until this week every Sky meeting has been ok to great. Then we have Berwick, a complete borefest and that was followed up by Glasgow that was made good by the fact Berwick was so bad that Glasgow looked OK but frankly, Glasgow wasn't up to much.

 

It always amuses me that a meeting that is anything better than bad in the PL is seen as brilliant, any EL meeting thats less than good is the end of the EL.

 

You get good bad and indifferent in both leagues.

[Buttons]

I thought both PL meetings shown by Sky this week were absolute guff. Worse possible meeting on Monday, followed by similar, though fractionally better last night. The only saving grace was the work from the Glasgow promotion in doing their job in promoting the sport to bring in a good crowd sothere was an atmosphere.

 

I much prefer EL racing. The better riders know how to pass and will commit, where last night it was just follow the leader. Holes to drive a bus through but the riders behind did nothing to go for these gaping gaps. Of course there are good and bad meetings in any league or any sport. The quality of EL riders means that the racing is that much better the majority of the time, as has been borne out this year with not a bad meeting on Sky until they went to a PL track.

 

Just my opinion and some may disagree.

 

Most EL teams have a fair few PL riders in them anyway so are they better riders and know how to commit when they are riding EL !!

[SharpenRake]

I've said this on another thread. Last night's el match at lakeside was basically 2 pl teams with a gp rider at no 1. Presumably there was a huge crowd as it was a el fixture and so much better than a pl match 😳

[Notenoughnerve]

The meetings at Glasgow and Berwick were pretty awful. Especially the Berwick one.

Having said that, both looked to have had better crowds than Lakeside on telly recently. And Leicester.

[E I Addio]

Ok it was a derby but theyre crowd last night was twice as big as any elite league match televised this year.

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Someone else who can tell the size of the crowd without even being there. I don't know how people do it. Nearly is good as Briggo managing to calculate the height of a dirt deflector from his TV screen.

 

As a matter of interest how big was the crowd, and how big was the next biggest EL meeting.

[SCB]

Lakesides crowds look so small because the "arena" is so big and open

[SharpenRake]

Look its simple. Speedway is like most sports. If you don't support a particular team or individual it can be boring. Seeing the unexpected for example Garcia beating fisher or beating your fiercest rivals or having a good time with 1000s of others is what most ordinary, new, young fans want and Glasgow delivers. There has also been good racing for the purest.

[Woz01]

Lakesides crowds look so small because the "arena" is so big and open

Same at Brandon. You could have 2,000 there and it will look pretty empty.

[dump that clutch]

I thought both PL meetings shown by Sky this week were absolute guff. Worse possible meeting on Monday, followed by similar, though fractionally better last night. The only saving grace was the work from the Glasgow promotion in doing their job in promoting the sport to bring in a good crowd sothere was an atmosphere.

 

I much prefer EL racing. The better riders know how to pass and will commit, where last night it was just follow the leader. Holes to drive a bus through but the riders behind did nothing to go for these gaping gaps. Of course there are good and bad meetings in any league or any sport. The quality of EL riders means that the racing is that much better the majority of the time, as has been borne out this year with not a bad meeting on Sky until they went to a PL track.

 

Just my opinion and some may disagree.

having just caught up with the recordings in our house, I totally agree with what SS said.

Berwick was a total embarrassment and Glasgow (tbf - nice tidy set up) wasn't far behind it.

[Odds On]

_{last nights meeting was a poor advert for the sport.}

Edited July 5, 2016 by Odds On

[SteveLyric2]

....unless you are a Swindon fan!!!

[penchev]

Well that was hardly "Elite" last night was it? and to think so many people slagged of the premier league meetings last week.

Edited July 5, 2016 by penchev

[A ORLOV]

_{last nights meeting was a poor advert for the sport.}

....unless you are a Swindon fan!!!

Correct, the result and score were brilliant.

Most teams have a less than good meeting occasionally.

[sparkafag]

Last night’s meeting was comparable to last Monday in many ways, it was raced on a track prepared for rain which resulted in it being slicker than usual…well that and both away teams were terrible.

 

If Sky show 20/30/40 speedway meetings a year chances are a few might not be very good….don’t worry though it’s the same thing when they show football, Rugby etc it doesn’t mean we need to burn the sport down.

[SCB]

Last night was better than Berwick, there was passing. But it was still dull and it wasn't quite as bad as the Glasgow meeting.

 

Passing last night in heats 2, 4, 8 and 15. Glasgow had 2 passes and Berwick 1. Swindon riders were a lot closer than at Berwick too, Berwick was strung out and no hope of a pass, Swindon had a few heats with riders trying.

 

(passes after the back straight only counted)

 

I'd not try and argue last night was anything other than dull but people seem to be trying to argue the PL meetings were something other than dull.

[Starman2006]

Last night was better than Berwick, there was passing. But it was still dull and it wasn't quite as bad as the Glasgow meeting.

 

Passing last night in heats 2, 4, 8 and 15. Glasgow had 2 passes and Berwick 1. Swindon riders were a lot closer than at Berwick too, Berwick was strung out and no hope of a pass, Swindon had a few heats with riders trying.

 

(passes after the back straight only counted)

 

I'd not try and argue last night was anything other than dull but people seem to be trying to argue the PL meetings were something other than dull.

£10 or no £10, nuetrals that watched last night wouldn't bother watching again.. The best race of the night was ht 15, even Chris Louis agrees.

Edited July 5, 2016 by Starman2006

[Gavan]

The meeting was poor last night, just one line on the inside and if you missed the gate you had no chance as proved by Doyle, Tungate and Sedgman.

 

As said you get good and bad meetings on all tracks in both leagues.

 

Chances are you are going to get worse meetings at Poole and Lakeside then you would at Belle Vue or Wolves.

Same in the premier league. Poor meetings likely at Berwick or Ipswich yet you would expect better at Peterborough or Somerset.

 

Thing is Sky have to go to all tracks to give everyone a fair split. You cant just avoid the Pooles and Berwicks to please everyone.