TonyE Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 The crowd will almost certainly be down but by how much compared to having to race on an 'off' night - who knows? On the plus side:- - another 3 points collected - another fixture completed - the team get track time after a month break from their last home meeting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 running this match is just a ploy to get others to thinking we need a squad system , when in actual fact it should be post poned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueherb777 Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 FARCE End of. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 Totally agree AJ. The authorities are as much to blame because there are just not enough riders to go around. It'll be interesting because there isn't much difference between the PL and EL so perhaps it'll be closer than people think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 running this match is just a ploy to get others to thinking we need a squad system , when in actual fact it should be post poned The problem is postponed to when ? There have already been two rained off Swindon fixtures to re-arrange due to rain offs and probably no other dates when all riders are available. The reality is that its bad enough with GP's , SWC, u/21's and GP qualifiers to fit round riders availibity, but now we have Polish TV meetings going on mid week and it all plays havoc with the domestic league when rain offs happen. Its all very well for people to pontificate about postponements, and I am sure Jon Cook would go for that option rather than a big wage bill and a small crowd but there is no easy answer other than in the BSF fantasy world. The month since the last meeting is itself due to a rain off. Having said that. I shall go myself, subject to weather, because with these gaps I am increasingly finding other things to do on a Friday and if I don't drag myself over there I might easily drop the habit completely.. When regulars like myself are getting out of the habit the alarm bells should be ringing at BSPA Towers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 The problem is postponed to when ? There have already been two rained off Swindon fixtures to re-arrange due to rain offs and probably no other dates when all riders are available. The reality is that its bad enough with GP's , SWC, u/21's and GP qualifiers to fit round riders availibity, but now we have Polish TV meetings going on mid week and it all plays havoc with the domestic league when rain offs happen. Its all very well for people to pontificate about postponements, and I am sure Jon Cook would go for that option rather than a big wage bill and a small crowd but there is no easy answer other than in the BSF fantasy world. The month since the last meeting is itself due to a rain off. Having said that. I shall go myself, subject to weather, because with these gaps I am increasingly finding other things to do on a Friday and if I don't drag myself over there I might easily drop the habit completely.. When regulars like myself are getting out of the habit the alarm bells should be ringing at BSPA Towers. so then how are they going to find dates for more meetings next season as what mr ford wants???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 Matt ford is probably in a minority when it comes to wanting more meetings. For most promoters, more meetings mean more losses! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 Matt ford is probably in a minority when it comes to wanting more meetings. For most promoters, more meetings mean more losses! If promoters think that they should quit. Why not run any meetings at all and have no losses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 Matt ford is probably in a minority when it comes to wanting more meetings. For most promoters, more meetings mean more losses! Really, explain yourself.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 Really, explain yourself..if more meetings was the answer, why was the KOC and the craven shield scrapped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 (edited) if more meetings was the answer, why was the KOC and the craven shield scrapped. The K O Cup could be brought back, but the craven shield im not so sure about. So whats your suggestion then.. Edited June 30, 2016 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 The K O Cup could be brought back, but the craven shield im not so sure about. So whats your suggestion then..there is no easy way to fix the problems in british speedway, hence the staggered fixture list in all three leagues. Some sports just go out of fashion, and the yearly tinkering of the rules won't bring the crowds back. Poole get healthy attendances, so have a different agenda to most of the other clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 there is no easy way to fix the problems in british speedway, hence the staggered fixture list in all three leagues. Some sports just go out of fashion, and the yearly tinkering of the rules won't bring the crowds back. Poole get healthy attendances, so have a different agenda to most of the other clubs. But you never answered the question.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk127 Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 The real problem is that 'UK Speedway' is a shadow of what use to be a weekly team event that by and large you could rely upon. The conflict between riders availability and promoters desire to put on some sort of match in the face of adversity is sheer nonsense. The sport has to accept that the top names are not coming back, it is simply not convenient to ride in this country. The sooner people who run this sport start to think 'British Speedway' and basically sod the rest and start building for the future with home grown talent the better it will be. It has worked in Germany where attendances are up. So many are now getting out of the habit of going to live speedway in this country that those in charge need to do something now and not wait until the winter for more hot air and no action. It will be too late. I have never known such a poor structure to the fixture list irrespective of the weather and to have teams without a meeting for five or six weeks is p.... poor and those responsible should hang their heads in shame. You have let down every supporter in the country. I really think that the sport is on a knife edge and decisions need to be made now and stop tinkering about. Get on with change. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 The real problem is that 'UK Speedway' is a shadow of what use to be a weekly team event that by and large you could rely upon. The conflict between riders availability and promoters desire to put on some sort of match in the face of adversity is sheer nonsense. The sport has to accept that the top names are not coming back, it is simply not convenient to ride in this country. The sooner people who run this sport start to think 'British Speedway' and basically sod the rest and start building for the future with home grown talent the better it will be. It has worked in Germany where attendances are up. So many are now getting out of the habit of going to live speedway in this country that those in charge need to do something now and not wait until the winter for more hot air and no action. It will be too late. I have never known such a poor structure to the fixture list irrespective of the weather and to have teams without a meeting for five or six weeks is p.... poor and those responsible should hang their heads in shame. You have let down every supporter in the country. I really think that the sport is on a knife edge and decisions need to be made now and stop tinkering about. Get on with change. You've just told us what everybody has already discused.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 so then how are they going to find dates for more meetings next season as what mr ford wants???? What Mr Ford wants is a wish list at the moment, nothing more. He has canvassed the opinion of his customers and there it rests for,the moment. The key ingredients are firstly what format will the paying public support and how many meetings will top riders commit to. It's clear that the public these days don't really want to support challenge matches, test matches or KO cup type things. The legue only gets by because of Sky money. It's a tragedy that Birmingham, Peterborough and Eastbourne couldn't sustain EL racing. If those clubs had remained in the EL it wouldn't be a bad league assuming the riders would support it, but those clubs absence indicates the scale of the problem facing the EL Let's see what the AGM brings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 If promoters think that they should quit. Why not run any meetings at all and have no losses?i've been to fifteen tracks already this season across all three leagues. At the vast majority of the meetings the crowds have been poor. It's amazing how some clubs survive. The promoters must have deep pockets or very clever accountants! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 What Mr Ford wants is a wish list at the moment, nothing more. He has canvassed the opinion of his customers and there it rests for,the moment. Not yet he hasn't... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk127 Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 You've just told us what everybody has already discused..So what! No one is listening anyway and I was bored because no speedway again tonight in Ipswich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 (edited) So what! No one is listening anyway and I was bored because no speedway again tonight in Ipswich Have a word with Gavin, he's the Ippo spokesperson... Edited June 30, 2016 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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