Marcelle Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 TBF Matt did say that riders would have to be shared out fairly. Matt Ford is probably the most successful modern day Speedway promoter, at least He's putting ideas forward..He knows what its like to run a speedway club, we just talk(mostly cr@p ) about it...We need to try change or as I said earlier..watch the sport die on its arse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSC67 Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 MATT Ford reiterates in Speedway Star this week that squads, more fixtures and regular race meetings are the only way forward for British speedway. Hard to argue with that in my view. The only way to get more meetings is to increase the amount of teams in the top league , how you go about that , I'll leave to the experts because I can't see many teams in the PL looking to move up . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 MATT Ford reiterates in Speedway Star this week that squads, more fixtures and regular race meetings are the only way forward for British speedway. Hard to argue with that in my view. And how would that happen? Either 1 big league which would be the death knell, or more teams move What Premier league team would want to move up to the Elite league at the moment?? None i reckon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 And how would that happen? Either 1 big league which would be the death knell, or more teams move What Premier league team would want to move up to the Elite league at the moment?? None i reckon. I thought you said Ippo want to come up. Well the only place they will go is the NL. Because they have as much chance of affording it as i have of winning the Euro millions...But im still sure you will support them... Not.Based on your posts on this forum You dont now, so nothing will change.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 MATT Ford reiterates in Speedway Star this week that squads, more fixtures and regular race meetings are the only way forward for British speedway. Hard to argue with that in my view. Would suit me, surely all promotions want to be competative and a drawcard within their league so help each other to make it happen and hopefully the likes of Peterborough, Ipswich, Glasgow, Sheffield will come up (wouldn't that be great) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 Now that we're in a post Brexit era , could the lower league go back to the way it was with a restriction on overseas riders ?It always could have done, by it didn't then and doesn't now suit promoters to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 the problem with squads is that the rich bags all the best riders...sign them up to stop other clubs using them...ok so they may only be able to put a team out on a particular day under the points limit but the majority of clubs won't be able to compete. Unless you envisage there being some kind of restriction on make up of squads? Seems to me this will benefit Poole more than any other club but they will find they have few other teams to race against! Rider control with set pay scales is the answer. (but I'm not holding my breath) they already have peterboroughs asset list to choose from aswell, squads will kill the elite the rich clubs will be able to afford the better riders , while the poor clubs will be left with the scraps fans want to see a team of the same 7 riders, it gives the club identity, fans dont like going to matches not knowin who is gonna be riding for your club! just sign 7 riders ,if one gets injured sign a new rider simples.....it worked before it will work again..all this squad nonsense is rubbish there aint enough riders as it is 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 The squad would be no more than 10 riders (assuming 7-man teams) or say 8 riders for a six-man format. If there is a limit on the number of heat leaders/2nd strings, then the asset system is irrelevant anyway if a club can only declare a squad of 8 or 10. The extra meetings (if anyone actually bothered to read the articles) would come from 2 or 3 more teams in the top league - MF named Glasgow plus a couple of others (unnamed) with similar aspirations - plus a new Cup competition which would have the full backing of the BSPA, unlike previously, and a possible sponsor!! Clearly there would have to be some financial stability for those clubs in the senior league - also mentioned in the article - but lets not get ahead of ourselves as MF is yet to seek the views of Poole supporters to get their overview and preferences, which may be entirely different to any of those expressed on this thread/forum, including mine!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 And how would that happen? Either 1 big league which would be the death knell, or more teams move What Premier league team would want to move up to the Elite league at the moment?? None i reckon. Louis has always said he would go back EL with Ippo if it suited the club. Glasgow have made a big thing about moving up. Peterborough have a rich EL history and might depend on the structure of the top flight for them tell reconsider. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted July 4, 2016 Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 Louis has always said he would go back EL with Ippo if it suited the club. Glasgow have made a big thing about moving up. Peterborough have a rich EL history and might depend on the structure of the top flight for them tell reconsider. And the new Sheffield promotion are quoted as having similar aspirations -especially now that Mr Machin is nothing to do with them!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted July 4, 2016 Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 Louis has always said he would go back EL with Ippo if it suited the club. Glasgow have made a big thing about moving up. Peterborough have a rich EL history and might depend on the structure of the top flight for them tell reconsider. It doesnt suit Ipswich at the moment and i think if you asked Chris now his answer would be no. Glasgow would be foolish to move up. Losing out on matches against Edinburgh, Berwick, Workington and Newcastle to name a few Peterborough isnt financially viable either 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penchev Posted July 4, 2016 Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 One League with a north/south split divide, For example: Berwick, Newcastle, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Sheffield, Workington, Redcar and Belle Vue. Race twice at home and away. Crowd levels are always better the more "local" the fixture is because when Berwick race the likes of Somerset, Ipswich and Plymouth come to Berwick the crowd is poor compared to matches against Edinburgh, Glasgow etc, and it is more and more paramount that clubs get punters through the gate. JUST AN IDEA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted July 4, 2016 Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 It doesnt suit Ipswich at the moment and i think if you asked Chris now his answer would be no. Glasgow would be foolish to move up. Losing out on matches against Edinburgh, Berwick, Workington and Newcastle to name a few Peterborough isnt financially viable either All 3 , and more would move up if the league was an attractive one and suited them financially. Whether any of them do or won't is pure speculation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted July 4, 2016 Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 MATT Ford reiterates in Speedway Star this week that squads, more fixtures and regular race meetings are the only way forward for British speedway. Hard to argue with that in my view. Trouble is it only really suits Poole at this moment in time which is why he is bleating on about it again. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted July 4, 2016 Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 Its not just about Poole. Belle Vue have given guarantees to their paymasters that they will provide top class speedway including National and International stars and events. I can't see them accepting a lower level product. If Coventry and Swindon and Lakeside had no issues with their stadia then they would want senior speedway too if it can be afforded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkafag Posted July 4, 2016 Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 A squad system would probably be the safest way to introduce clubs into a “top flight” while still allowing what is seen as a viable, and, somewhat fair product for both clubs. If Poole had say Holder and Majic in their squad they could be used home and away against Belle Vue, but then dropped out against a club of the ilk of Sheffield say who weren’t as strong as Poole It would require some form of gentleman agreement though which would get messy/overcomplicated. Any merger of leagues has to be in the interest of both parties it isn’t fair on Poole or Redcar for example to be in the same league, there needs to be a strategic logic to it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted July 4, 2016 Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 I reckon rye house could be an outside bet for top flight racing. The new promoters BMR are already active in other forms of professional motor sport. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted July 4, 2016 Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 a merger would be a disaster there arent no where near enough top riders to go round. most of the PL teams just would not compete meaning fans getting even more disillusioned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted July 4, 2016 Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 I reckon rye house could be an outside bet for top flight racing. The new promoters BMR are already active in other forms of professional motor sport. I would expect Rye House to be in the queue under the right circumstances, as they were rumoured to be last winter when there doubts over some teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted July 4, 2016 Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 (edited) There aren't enough top riders to go around anyway, and ford recognises that missing top riders isn't the problem. More teams and more regular meetings is what he wants and he's right. So if the powers that be could see that clubs were going to have massive gaps in there fixture list why didn't they go fortnightly to start with then run once a week through the hight of the summer and condense the fixture list. Edited July 4, 2016 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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