heathen chemistry Posted July 12, 2016 Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 so ford wants more matches , this years elite is a 28 match format... add challenge or other meetings then playoffs and teams could be involved in close to 35/36 matches he also says he wants one match a week , is that one home or just one match cuz if its one home then there will inevitably be one away aswell meaning 2 aweek meaning riders flyin in out twice sometimes doesnt he think 30 odd a season is enough? more matches means more chance of rain offs , as it is now we struggle to get all matches finished in time for play offs if you look at the fixtures this year teams including poole have gone weeks without a match , they then have 3 in a week that to me is ludicrous so sort the fixtures out first dont go weeks without a match then moan about not enough matches 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted July 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 (edited) so ford wants more matches , this years elite is a 28 match format... add challenge or other meetings then playoffs and teams could be involved in close to 35/36 matches he also says he wants one match a week , is that one home or just one match cuz if its one home then there will inevitably be one away aswell meaning 2 aweek meaning riders flyin in out twice sometimes doesnt he think 30 odd a season is enough? more matches means more chance of rain offs , as it is now we struggle to get all matches finished in time for play offs if you look at the fixtures this year teams including poole have gone weeks without a match , they then have 3 in a week that to me is ludicrous so sort the fixtures out first dont go weeks without a match then moan about not enough matches We have had a 6 week break BECAUSE there isnt enough meetings.That is the whole point from Matt Ford. More meetings not less. To say if we have more meetings there's more chance of a rainoff is just silly. Why not have no meetings so we won't have any rainoffs? We need many more meetings. Riders will not be flying in out in out as the racing should be on consecutive nights. Teams ride home every week and away the next day, or day before. 30 odd meetings is not enough. Thats only 15 at home. Edited July 12, 2016 by Steve Shovlar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted July 12, 2016 Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 Top guys say they'll ride over here fi we had squads. We'll get squads and they'll have another excuse. They're all mercenaries (like the rest of us!) who only go to work if the money is right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted July 12, 2016 Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 We have had a 6 week break BECAUSE there isnt enough meetings.That is the whole point from Matt Ford. More meetings not less. To say if we have more meetings there's more chance of a rainoff is just silly. Why not have no meetings so we won't have any rainoffs? We need many more meetings. Riders will not be flying in out in out as the racing should be on consecutive nights. Teams ride home every week and away the next day, or day before. 30 odd meetings is not enough. Thats only 15 at home. Ignore him Steve, clearly he doesn't do maths at school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Blachshadow Posted July 12, 2016 Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 We have had a 6 week break BECAUSE there isnt enough meetings.That is the whole point from Matt Ford. More meetings not less. To say if we have more meetings there's more chance of a rainoff is just silly. Why not have no meetings so we won't have any rainoffs? We need many more meetings. Riders will not be flying in out in out as the racing should be on consecutive nights. Teams ride home every week and away the next day, or day before. 30 odd meetings is not enough. Thats only 15 at home. I'd say you've got a six week break because somebody didn't space your fixtures out very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted July 12, 2016 Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 I'd say you've got a six week break because somebody didn't space your fixtures out very well. Take a look at our fixture list then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Blachshadow Posted July 12, 2016 Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 (edited) Take a look at our fixture list then. Okay, a four week break or, if you prefer, one home fixture in six weeks. Same thing, poor spacing of fixtures. Edited July 12, 2016 by Vincent Blackshadow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted July 12, 2016 Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 Okay, a four week break or, if you prefer, one home fixture in six weeks. Same thing, poor spacing of fixtures. And a rain off. Nothing to do with poor fixture spacing. Other clubs have had the same problem, or is it just Poole.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Blachshadow Posted July 12, 2016 Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 And a rain off. Nothing to do with poor fixture spacing. Other clubs have had the same problem, or is it just Poole.. I've included that rain-off (the 'one home fixture in six weeks' bit). Not getting at anybody, just pointing out that the only reason you've had one scheduled fixture (which was rained off) in six weeks is because somebody planned it that way. One or two more could have been put into that gap when they were originally worked out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveZodiac Posted July 12, 2016 Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 Top guys say they'll ride over here fi we had squads. We'll get squads and they'll have another excuse. They're all mercenaries (like the rest of us!) who only go to work if the money is right. The problem with squads is that the top riders will all want to miss the same meetings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 (edited) We have had a 6 week break BECAUSE there isnt enough meetings.That is the whole point from Matt Ford. More meetings not less. To say if we have more meetings there's more chance of a rainoff is just silly. Why not have no meetings so we won't have any rainoffs? We need many more meetings. Riders will not be flying in out in out as the racing should be on consecutive nights. Teams ride home every week and away the next day, or day before. 30 odd meetings is not enough. Thats only 15 at home. 6 week break because of not enough meetings? .... wtf poole have ridden 5 less matches than the other teams so go figure that one out you'll now be hoping for no rain offs to get all remaining fixtures in, you now got 2 months(less than that if you consider we will have the world cup soon) to fit your 16 matches that you have left , how many a week does that work out at? poland /sweden the leagues that race once a week that everyone tends to quote have a match at home fortnightly meaning at home one week away the next works for them crouds are always good how can a home match every week work that means one away match a week aswell can fans afford two matches a week? Edited July 13, 2016 by heathen chemistry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 Top guys say they'll ride over here fi we had squads. We'll get squads and they'll have another excuse. They're all mercenaries (like the rest of us!) who only go to work if the money is right. The bottom line being what they actually get paid rather than what they might be promised!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 Surely more meetings will ultimately mean more guests? Top riders sharing positions is fine until inevitably they are both missing as riding in the same Polish league match (planned or rearranged) during the week. Or racing in the GP qualifying or racing in the SEC or Euro Pairs etc etc etc... Eg which of your two/three GP squad riders would want to race on the Thursday before a Friday GP practice? "He's not riding so why should I?" would become a common situation I would imagine.. And is it really worth planning your whole seasons fixtures around ten or so riders, racing on nights when if you could get a crowd that night, you would surely be riding on that night now!? The sport over here as a whole, would be better off running on nights when each track feels it can generate its biggest crowd level.. If that includes 'superstars' then fine. If it doesn't then also fine.. Fans may want 'superstars' (although the crowd levels falling off a cliff in the last 20 years even though the majority of 'superstars' did race over here in this time may prove otherwise), but fans want consistent teams more, seven, six (or even five?) man teams who are available EVERY week except for when injured. THEIR riders, riding for THEIR team. Use that rationale as a starter for ten in team building and build the rest of the details on race nights, team strengths etc, around it.. The tail is wagging the dog in British Speedway. The promoters should start to take back control of THEIR part of the Sport.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TesarRacing Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 The bottom line being what they actually get paid rather than what they might be promised!!! Perhaps Matt Ford's vision should be a league of: Poole A Poole B Poole C Poole D Poole E Poole F Poole G Poole H All with international superstars and squads and I am sure, all paid in full and on time. EL sorted!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 ROSCO joins the debate ... http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/14616990.Rossiter_calling_for_changes/?ref=rss&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 ROSCO joins the debate ... http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/14616990.Rossiter_calling_for_changes/?ref=rss&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed It is no good the promoters complaining about gaps in the schedule, they arranged and agreed it before the season started. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 (edited) It is no good the promoters complaining about gaps in the schedule, they arranged and agreed it before the season started. matches are easily rearranged ,if poole have gone 6 weeks wothout a home match thats only the fault of management.... are they really going to arrange the whole seasons fixtures to the dates that these part time squad member can ride in ? ( so the idea is to concentrate on dates that the riders that dont want to ride over can possibly ride in just in the hope that a few of them will deecide to ride here in a few matches)? that will not work also only having a set day wont work over here with our weather pretty soon you run out of weeks to run matches meaning you have to run fixtures on off days and as like now when clubs have the ludicrous situation when they have to run 3 sometimes 4 matches a week just to get the matches in , having squads goes against the promoters mentality of having either r/r because it makes the team stronger or a good guest cuz he makes us stronger (paul starke) i presume squads will put a stop to this it has to, otherwise whats the point of squads! robert lambert was missing monday from kings lynns team with a broken finger, but rode tuesday in sweden these things will happen more with squads... Edited July 14, 2016 by heathen chemistry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 matches are easily rearranged ,if poole have gone 6 weeks wothout a home match thats only the fault of management.... They are not that easily arranged, thats where you are very wrong old son. Why are you skipping school.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TesarRacing Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 They are not that easily arranged, thats where you are very wrong old son. Why are you skipping school.. .........why are you always so aggressive and abusive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 (edited) .........why are you always so aggressive and abusive? Why do you pick up on posts that are perfectly ok. Its that idiot who is clearly total clueless. He thinks everything is easy. no its not. Edited July 14, 2016 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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