Sidney the robin Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 I want a home meeting every week people can get out of the habit of going a big problem for the sport now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWC Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 He seems to want the Elite to grow but doesn't mention the impending loss of Coventry and probably Swindon Lakeside and likely Leicester at some stage. Not much of a league left unless it will be 4 clubs riding against each other 10 times! The only way change will happen is if large sums of money come into the sport and Sky won't pay for it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 (edited) He seems to want the Elite to grow but doesn't mention the impending loss of Coventry and probably Swindon Lakeside and likely Leicester at some stage. Not much of a league left unless it will be 4 clubs riding against each other 10 times! The only way change will happen is if large sums of money come into the sport and Sky won't pay for it. Is that not the responsibilty of Gospeed who have been trying to find a league sponsor. Edited June 25, 2016 by A ORLOV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 some people make the mistake of thinking that the superstars bring in the crowds its not its having a competitive team and being in with a genuine chance of winning the league (re: leicester city) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 some people make the mistake of thinking that the superstars bring in the crowds its not its having a competitive team and being in with a genuine chance of winning the league (re: leicester city) competitive speedway always the be all and end all. Though for some teams they think winning is all that matters When we at Ipswich had the all conquering team i didnt always go i picked and chose as some meetings were so one sided i didnt want to part with my money Did i want us to win the league? Yes Was the racing good? Not really. Any newbies i could have took to the sport would have been utterly bored. Moving on to a couple of seasons ago i took a mate to see Ipswich v Edinburgh and in heat 1 Cook and Barker had their issue and Cook was thrown out. Since that meeting he has come with me nearly everytime i go which is only about 6 times a season. No point Poole being miles in front of everybody and then seeing the sport die because of it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 One big league is the only answer, with any cup, pairs or fours competitions being available to any clubs that wish to volunteer to be in them, that way you can have as many or few meetings as you like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KN1 Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 Imo squads could actually mean less riders as some will feel it is not viable without a guaranteed amount of meetings, some already are close to this. I know some feel that they ought to get jobs as such as in the old days to offset this, but employers are different in their views re time off nowadays so as to accommodate this. Awkward questions /decisions to be made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 Finished bottom of the League i think three times in my lifetime for me i could not care less.Good racing is what i want ,if i see a good close meeting i am happy we won the league the other year first time since 67 myself i was not that bothered to be honest.Entertainment is the key One big league for me even if teams are of a lesser standard. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 A squad might be ok but if I was a rider I would want either a signing on fee or a retainer to stop me offering my services to another club if I had the time. How would clubs afford this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruckerroo Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 Irrespective of what league the paying public want weekly speedway not 3 and 4 week gaps before a home meeting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 Irrespective of what league the paying public want weekly speedway not 3 and 4 week gaps before a home meeting FULLY agree with that. Been my argument for a long time now. Once fans get out of the routine of going many stop going all together. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 Read the thread Ive not blamed Matt Ford for having ideas Ive not blamed Matt Ford for the fact it hugely favours Poole What im saying is that his proposal of a squad system has no chance of working Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted June 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 (edited) Read the thread Ive not blamed Matt Ford for having ideas Ive not blamed Matt Ford for the fact it hugely favours Poole What im saying is that his proposal of a squad system has no chance of working If this proposal was put forward by anyone else you would be saying different as your hatred of Matt Ford, your words, clouds any judgement from you. Why the hell does it favour Poole? Any club can sign riders. People want weekly speedway. They want EL not PL speedway. This way top riders can ride over here. Squads definately in for 2017 no doubt at all. 4 extra clubs coming up and.p add Cup comp and we will be back to weekly speedway with quality riders. Awaiting ideas from other promotions but most have their heads in the sand so wont get excited. Edited June 25, 2016 by Steve Shovlar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 Belle Vue programmed 20 Elite standard meetings this year (21 if we make the final) and have always championed PL teams to move up as we are out on a limb EL wise. Squads have been talked about for a long time. Nothing new here but it's still good to see a promoter canvass local opinion to gauged the potential impact to his business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 If this proposal was put forward by anyone else you would be saying different as your hatred of Matt Ford, your words, clouds any judgement from you. Why the hell does it favour Poole? Any club can sign riders. People want weekly speedway. They want EL not PL speedway. This way top riders can ride over here. Squads definately in for 2017 no doubt at all. 4 extra clubs coming up and.p add Cup comp and we will be back to weekly speedway with quality riders. Awaiting ideas from other promotions but most have their heads in the sand so wont get excited. so your saying it doesn't favour the side with the biggest asset base and the most money then! Oh and if you read the thread I praised Ford for having the idea!!!! If you don't think Poole are in the best place to have a squad then your a tad delusional. And I'm not the only one to say it so while your at it have a pop at the others! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 some people make the mistake of thinking that the superstars bring in the crowds its not its having a competitive team and being in with a genuine chance of winning the league (re: leicester city) Leicester's crowds were no different from the first home game of the season to the last. What an awful comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted June 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 so your saying it doesn't favour the side with the biggest asset base and the most money then! Oh and if you read the thread I praised Ford for having the idea!!!! If you don't think Poole are in the best place to have a squad then your a tad delusional. And I'm not the only one to say it so while your at it have a pop at the others! But there will still be a points limit in some shape or form. We cant go with a team of Holder, Janowski, Lindback, Andersen, Buckowski, Newman and Ellis. Ridrs would be graded so that if a frade one rider is out he can only be replaced by one of a similar grade. There are many riders out there now who are not attached to British clubs. Clubs should be looking right now at forming their squads for next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 But there will still be a points limit in some shape or form. We cant go with a team of Holder, Janowski, Lindback, Andersen, Buckowski, Newman and Ellis. Ridrs would be graded so that if a frade one rider is out he can only be replaced by one of a similar grade. There are many riders out there now who are not attached to British clubs. Clubs should be looking right now at forming their squads for next season. They'll have to move smartly then as Matt's already left 'em far behind!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 They'll have to move smartly then as Matt's already left 'em far behind!! Yes he has got 100 riders signed up already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIRKYLANE Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 If you want a large top league , say 16 - 19 , with a KO Cup as in the old days then it can only be done by a dilution of the standard of teams compared with the Elite league now . There is not the number of available riders to have squads in an enlarged league. The British League as formed in 1965 from a small top league ( the National league ) and a larger second tier ( Provincial League ) was the beginnings of a resurgence in the number of Speedway tracks over the next few years.. However that probably would not fit in with Poole's thoughts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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