Matt Fords Vision For The Elite League In 2017.

[Steve Shovlar]

Taken from todays Daily Echo. The link has been posted on another thread but I feel his thoughts are worthy of discussion on here with perhaps the better ideas/tweaks picked up by the Speedway Star for publication.

 

http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/sport/14577174.Speedway__Matt_Ford_to_put_radical_overhaul_ideas_to_Poole_Pirates_fans/

 

PROMOTER Matt Ford is set to canvass the opinions of Poole Pirates supporters over his ideas for a radical shake-up of Elite League speedway.

 

In an in-depth Daily Echo exclusive, the Wimborne Road chief revealed his desire to add 10 or more fixtures per year by implementing a squad system and restoring cup competitions.

 

Pirates have been kicking their heels since June 1 with just 14 league fixtures to fit into a six-month calendar and Ford believes running consistently on a fixed race night would boost attendances across the country.

 

 

He argues the dearth of clubs prepared to step up to Britains top flight is due to a lack of meetings and that a shortage of riders can be managed.

 

Pirates supporters will be asked to take part in a survey later in the campaign and should he gain their backing, Ford has vowed to pitch his revolutionary vision to speedway chiefs.

 

You can vote on the Echo website. This is how it stands at time of posting this thread.

 

What do you make of Ford's proposals?

He's hit the nail on the head

49%

Good plan but it needs some work

29%

Good plan but it will never happen

12%

Elite League needs to change but not like this

9%

Elite League is fine as it is

1%

Ford told the Daily Echo: When I first came into the sport, certainly for the first 10 years, we would be riding every Wednesday. Now, we are going through four weeks without any racing.

 

In my view, there is not enough speedway at the top level and people are out of the habit of coming.

 

While our crowd levels hold up well, there have been the occasions where they have dropped considerably. Wednesday night used to be speedway night but now, dependent on various things, it could be a Monday or a Friday.

 

I feel people would like to see more continuity and for us to go from 15 home matches a year to 22, possibly 25 with success.

 

Of course, there would be the implication of admission costs but when I look back, the numbers were always consistent when we had that volume before.

 

Things do fluctuate with the weather, televised meetings and the fact we have not started quite as well as we would have liked.

 

The loss of Darcy Ward and Maciej Janowski is a factor but I think any reluctance (to attend) is more about a lack of continuity than a lack of top stars.

 

 

Personally, I believe it would be a good system but I want to know what the paying public think about the key questions.

 

Do they think a squad system would help? Do they want to see 10 riders? Do they think it would be better to have more meetings? Would it be affordable? Would they support cup competitions?

 

I believe we can sort any problems with the riders, I just need to know whether the public would pick and choose when they come.

 

The move would see the fixture calendar look more like that of the British second flight but Ford was adamant the notion of stepping down had not crossed his mind.

 

Whatever the top level of racing is in the UK, I want us to be a part of it, he added.

 

Premier League speedway would not be the right move for us. We need to run at the top level, the town and the fanbase warrants that.

 

FORD ON THE OTHER KEY PEOPLE

 

On what fans of other clubs will think: All of us have our ways of trying to assess situations locally, this is my way and others will look at it differently. My biggest concern for now is what Poole fans think.

 

When we look at the bigger picture, Ill be very interested in what the rest of speedway thinks but I need to know whether Poole fans agree with me and whether they can find the extra funds to support more meetings.

 

If so, I can put across the case to my fellow promoters, that this is how our club feels.

 

"Perhaps they will look to gather their own information and see where we go from there but I do believe speedway fans will generally think in the same way.

 

 

On the riders: There is a big gap in the number of meetings riders with different commitments want to take on.

 

For some Grand Prix riders, Britain is too much. For the top names already here and outside the GPs, the schedule does not give them enough racing.

 

We have a real opportunity because some riders in other countries are receiving an awful lot of promises that dont always get delivered.

 

The top clubs in Poland are honourable but there is a lot about there contracts over there that is different to our deals.

 

The monetary levels are far lower here but I do believe when you agree a contract in Britain, it gets upheld.

 

Below the top flight in Poland, riders sign contracts and then two months into the season get asked to take 50 per cent of their money. They know they will not get picked if they say no and that is just wrong.

 

That has happened to riders currently in our team and if they had more fixtures here, they would be willing to give up other domestic leagues.

 

While that may mean a certain amount of hardship for British speedway in the short term, we could regain some power by asking riders to choose a maximum of one other league.

 

We would have them here as part of an eight-to-10-man squad. Some riders would do every meeting, some would be happy to just do 25 or 30 matches and others would do 10 but the team could take part in 50.

 

 

I know there are riders who would quit Poland if I could offer them that many meetings because they do not get the 14 lucrative matches they signed up for over there. They might get seven with their money cut back.

 

We could be in a really strong bargaining position but I believe taking on fewer fixtures makes our lives very difficult now.

 

It wouldnt worry me if Tai Woffinden was contracted to do 10 matches for Wolverhampton and he did them all at home. I would still be happy to see him riding in Britain.

 

I cant see it being detrimental. I know other promoters who dont agree but I dont get that, I just want to have as many top stars here for as many fixtures as they choose to ride.

 

My thoughts are very open and I am interested to know what others think but from my point of view, I think we should throw open the doors to riders en masse. I do not think it should be stipulated they must do a fixed number of meetings.

 

I have always felt fans should follow the club and not a rider but I acknowledge we need to assess that side of it.

 

"If we brought in Maciej Janowski for 10 matches a year, would it affect the other 30 or 40 meetings?

 

Would they prefer to have a slightly lower standard and more continuity? I still feel certain we will make stars just as we always have done.

 

On his fellow speedway bosses: I have not discussed this with the other promoters at large. It would be down to us to negotiate with each other once I have gained the views of our supporters.

 

 

"If it was something I felt the Poole fans wanted, I would take those thoughts forward to the BSPA.

 

On Premier League clubs stepping up: It would require more teams. There are certainly two or three clubs in the Premier League with the same ambition.

 

Glasgow is the example with an incredibly attractive venue and promoters who wish to run at the highest level. I have no doubt they have thoughts of stepping up in the future.

 

There are clubs closer to home that would like this format, to be able to keep the continuity they already have and to step up.

 

There will be clubs that do not want more but there are some with grander ideas who dont want to sign up to so few fixtures.

 

I look back at years where we had more than 25 fixtures and now we have just 14 in the Elite League. We all need more.

Edited June 24, 2016 by Steve Shovlar

[Starman2006]

Taken from todays Daily Echo. The link has been posted on another thread but I feel his thoughts are worthy of discussion on here with perhaps the better ideas/tweaks picked up by the Speedway Star for publication.

 

PROMOTER Matt Ford is set to canvass the opinions of Poole Pirates supporters over his ideas for a radical shake-up of Elite League speedway.

 

In an in-depth Daily Echo exclusive, the Wimborne Road chief revealed his desire to add 10 or more fixtures per year by implementing a squad system and restoring cup competitions.

 

Pirates have been kicking their heels since June 1 with just 14 league fixtures to fit into a six-month calendar and Ford believes running consistently on a fixed race night would boost attendances across the country.

 

 

He argues the dearth of clubs prepared to step up to Britains top flight is due to a lack of meetings and that a shortage of riders can be managed.

 

Pirates supporters will be asked to take part in a survey later in the campaign and should he gain their backing, Ford has vowed to pitch his revolutionary vision to speedway chiefs.

 

Your vote

What do you make of Ford's proposals?

He's hit the nail on the head

49%

Good plan but it needs some work

29%

Good plan but it will never happen

12%

Elite League needs to change but not like this

9%

Elite League is fine as it is

1%

Ford told the Daily Echo: When I first came into the sport, certainly for the first 10 years, we would be riding every Wednesday. Now, we are going through four weeks without any racing.

 

In my view, there is not enough speedway at the top level and people are out of the habit of coming.

 

While our crowd levels hold up well, there have been the occasions where they have dropped considerably. Wednesday night used to be speedway night but now, dependent on various things, it could be a Monday or a Friday.

 

I feel people would like to see more continuity and for us to go from 15 home matches a year to 22, possibly 25 with success.

 

Of course, there would be the implication of admission costs but when I look back, the numbers were always consistent when we had that volume before.

 

Things do fluctuate with the weather, televised meetings and the fact we have not started quite as well as we would have liked.

 

The loss of Darcy Ward and Maciej Janowski is a factor but I think any reluctance (to attend) is more about a lack of continuity than a lack of top stars.

 

 

Personally, I believe it would be a good system but I want to know what the paying public think about the key questions.

 

Do they think a squad system would help? Do they want to see 10 riders? Do they think it would be better to have more meetings? Would it be affordable? Would they support cup competitions?

 

I believe we can sort any problems with the riders, I just need to know whether the public would pick and choose when they come.

 

The move would see the fixture calendar look more like that of the British second flight but Ford was adamant the notion of stepping down had not crossed his mind.

 

Whatever the top level of racing is in the UK, I want us to be a part of it, he added.

 

Premier League speedway would not be the right move for us. We need to run at the top level, the town and the fanbase warrants that.

 

FORD ON THE OTHER KEY PEOPLE

 

On what fans of other clubs will think: All of us have our ways of trying to assess situations locally, this is my way and others will look at it differently. My biggest concern for now is what Poole fans think.

 

When we look at the bigger picture, Ill be very interested in what the rest of speedway thinks but I need to know whether Poole fans agree with me and whether they can find the extra funds to support more meetings.

 

If so, I can put across the case to my fellow promoters, that this is how our club feels.

 

"Perhaps they will look to gather their own information and see where we go from there but I do believe speedway fans will generally think in the same way.

 

 

On the riders: There is a big gap in the number of meetings riders with different commitments want to take on.

 

For some Grand Prix riders, Britain is too much. For the top names already here and outside the GPs, the schedule does not give them enough racing.

 

We have a real opportunity because some riders in other countries are receiving an awful lot of promises that dont always get delivered.

 

The top clubs in Poland are honourable but there is a lot about there contracts over there that is different to our deals.

 

The monetary levels are far lower here but I do believe when you agree a contract in Britain, it gets upheld.

 

Below the top flight in Poland, riders sign contracts and then two months into the season get asked to take 50 per cent of their money. They know they will not get picked if they say no and that is just wrong.

 

That has happened to riders currently in our team and if they had more fixtures here, they would be willing to give up other domestic leagues.

 

While that may mean a certain amount of hardship for British speedway in the short term, we could regain some power by asking riders to choose a maximum of one other league.

 

We would have them here as part of an eight-to-10-man squad. Some riders would do every meeting, some would be happy to just do 25 or 30 matches and others would do 10 but the team could take part in 50.

 

 

I know there are riders who would quit Poland if I could offer them that many meetings because they do not get the 14 lucrative matches they signed up for over there. They might get seven with their money cut back.

 

We could be in a really strong bargaining position but I believe taking on fewer fixtures makes our lives very difficult now.

 

It wouldnt worry me if Tai Woffinden was contracted to do 10 matches for Wolverhampton and he did them all at home. I would still be happy to see him riding in Britain.

 

I cant see it being detrimental. I know other promoters who dont agree but I dont get that, I just want to have as many top stars here for as many fixtures as they choose to ride.

 

My thoughts are very open and I am interested to know what others think but from my point of view, I think we should throw open the doors to riders en masse. I do not think it should be stipulated they must do a fixed number of meetings.

 

I have always felt fans should follow the club and not a rider but I acknowledge we need to assess that side of it.

 

"If we brought in Maciej Janowski for 10 matches a year, would it affect the other 30 or 40 meetings?

 

Would they prefer to have a slightly lower standard and more continuity? I still feel certain we will make stars just as we always have done.

 

On his fellow speedway bosses: I have not discussed this with the other promoters at large. It would be down to us to negotiate with each other once I have gained the views of our supporters.

 

 

"If it was something I felt the Poole fans wanted, I would take those thoughts forward to the BSPA.

 

On Premier League clubs stepping up: It would require more teams. There are certainly two or three clubs in the Premier League with the same ambition.

 

Glasgow is the example with an incredibly attractive venue and promoters who wish to run at the highest level. I have no doubt they have thoughts of stepping up in the future.

 

There are clubs closer to home that would like this format, to be able to keep the continuity they already have and to step up.

 

There will be clubs that do not want more but there are some with grander ideas who dont want to sign up to so few fixtures.

 

I look back at years where we had more than 25 fixtures and now we have just 14 in the Elite League. We all need more.

So first question Steve, how do we increase the amount of clubs we have in the league which would increase the fixture list When you already have clubs in this league that are struggling financially. How are they ever going to sign the better riders, providing they can attract them of course. ?

[damosuzuki]

Yes have to agree 14 fixtures would do my head in. I like a weekly home meeting tbh. Glasgow have had two weeks off just there and it's moidah.

[Bald Bloke]

Think its more to do withPoole, and how many fans Poole can get through the gate

[Bees_Man]

Agree. When the summers comes around the EL has no fixtures. We'll be having another 2 weeks off soon for the World Cup!

[Trees]

We've had a month off and now 3 weeks off, some of it due to weather but ......... I want to see weekly speedway 100%

[salty]

Hard to believe as many as 1% voted to say that the Elite League was fine as it is.

Not surprised that Matt is looking for change - it's crazy that Pirates have hardly had a home fixture in the month of June.

I was brought up on weekly Speedway so I feel that continuity is a positive but it was only a couple of years ago that Bob Dugard at Eastbourne was looking to limit fixtures.

Hard to see clubs being attracted up to the Elite after the issues that Leicester have faced this year. Matt would have to be very accommodating with that asset list to get enough clubs willing to move up.

[Steve Shovlar]

Think its more to do withPoole, and how many fans Poole can get through the gate

Its to do with every EL club. Would Wolves fans be happy to see Tai just ride home meetings only?

Hard to believe as many as 1% voted to say that the Elite League was fine as it is.

Not surprised that Matt is looking for change - it's crazy that Pirates have hardly had a home fixture in the month of June.

I was brought up on weekly Speedway so I feel that continuity is a positive but it was only a couple of years ago that Bob Dugard at Eastbourne was looking to limit fixtures.

Hard to see clubs being attracted up to the Elite after the issues that Leicester have faced this year. Matt would have to be very accommodating with that asset list to get enough clubs willing to move up.

Think you might discover many of the top riders and quality heat leaders who don't ride here, (milik, THJ, Protasiewicz etc would be more than happy with a dozen extra meetings a year.

 

Needs to be put forward way before the AGM.

[New Science]

Just cannot see enough clubs wanting to run at this level , with several doubts over the viability of many current Elite league clubs at present, it seems no clubs have increased costs at the top of the agenda. Plenty of clubs in the Premier League have had 20 years to move up to Elite league level and declined, How many ex Elite league clubs who have had there fingers burnt would fancy another go at Elite level,non in my opinion.

[Bald Bloke]

Steve.Wolves are pretty good at home.Tai would be better for Wolves play off chances if he did their away meetings.Crowd v League position

[LagutaRacingFan]

I agree with Matt, let's take back control of British speedway.

[hagonshocker]

How about a referendum, would totally over blow any recent ones....

Either put your cross in the boxes #SameOldS**t or #LetMattFixIt

Edited June 25, 2016 by hagonshocker

[heathen chemistry]

squad system would ruin british speedway,

 

riders being dictated by there polish clubs some riders just wouldnt turn up

 

then you'd get clubs cancelling fixtures due to there ace number one squad member not being available for a certain fixture

that would then mean more guests r/r when they dont ride/carnt ride because clubs would go with what makes the team stronger rather than go with a different rider from squad that made them weaker,which would result in more scope for more fiddling ,

add to that the increase in costs, and the fact the rich club or clubs would be able to sign a squad of superstars while the poor clubs would have a squad of PL riders

 

just go back to the standard 1-7 if a riders gets injured sign another, fans want to see the same 7 riders each match not a PICK N MIX

Edited June 25, 2016 by heathen chemistry

[hans fan]

squad system would ruin british speedway,

 

riders being dictated by there polish clubs some riders just wouldnt turn up

 

then you'd get clubs cancelling fixtures due to there ace number one squad member not being available for a certain fixture

that would then mean more guests r/r when they dont ride/carnt ride because clubs would go with what makes the team stronger rather than go with a different rider from squad that made them weaker,which would result in more scope for more fiddling ,

add to that the increase in costs, and the fact the rich club or clubs would be able to sign a squad of superstars while the poor clubs would have a squad of PL riders

 

just go back to the standard 1-7 if a riders gets injured sign another, fans want to see the same 7 riders each match not a PICK N MIX

poole would be the only club where it would work they'd sign all the best riders , clubs can't afford 7 riders now , big names would probably sign for clubs (get there signing on fees ) whether they ride is a different matter , 1 huge gamble with Poland and Sweden holding all the aces regarding riders

[Gavan]

Squad system in this country just simply wouldnt work. Clubs would fold as they couldnt afford the superstars thus they wouldnt be competitive. The Elite league would just die.

 

Of course Matt Ford wants this in. He owns a load of assets and the club it would benefit most would be Poole.

 

The rich get richer and the sport dies..............good idea

[SteveLyric2]

Apart from the 6-rider team meeting that was trialled recently at Kings Lynn - without too much further detail as to how it might be introduced or structured - I don't see any other Club Promoter making any proposals for fans to give a view on?!

[Gavan]

Apart from the 6-rider team meeting that was trialled recently at Kings Lynn - without too much further detail as to how it might be introduced or structured - I don't see any other Club Promoter making any proposals for fans to give a view on?!

I agree nobody else has come forward

 

Do i think it will work? No

Does it benefit Poole more than anyone else? Yes, but im not moaning about that as of course any promoter putting forward any proposal will never put forward one that could affect their own side.

[orion]

Whatever the detail you can bet it will suit Poole Speedway

[bigcatdiary]

Matt Ford will race in any league or set up as long as he wins because that's the only thing that matters to him.

[Gavan]

Whatever the detail you can bet it will suit Poole Speedway

 

 

Matt Ford will race in any league or set up as long as he wins because that's the only thing that matters to him.

Im probably the most anti Matt Ford poster on this forum but as i said any promoter putting forward any idea is only going to suggest something they can benefit from so i dont blame Ford for putting it out there.

 

As ive said if it comes into play speedway will just fade off and die in this country.

 

Matt Ford only looking short term and not whats good or the future of the sport.