f-s-p Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 Current rulebook The total race points scored by each rider during the whole Event (Heats 123) will be credited as Grand Prix points in the overall Championship classi cation. Rules change, dont make bets with 15 year old info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 Did he win his last ride ride to qualify ?watched a old Dvd Adams beating Mark to the under 21s championship Gollob was there to. He did get through in his last ride when he needed to come second. I believe Carl Stonehewer led the race and Mark was in third for 2 and a half laps behind Jacek Gollob before getting past. I was there in 1992 in Pffanhoffen for that world under 21 final. Mark lost to Leigh Adams in a run off. Joe Screen was third and yes Gollob was in it along with Gunnestad, Norris, Klingberg, Clausen and a young Mikael Karlsson as he was then. Mark was devastated to lose the run off as Sunbrite (or Coalite cant remember) had put up a large financial windfall if a Brit won both the senior and junior titles and with Havvy winning the World Title , Mark lost out on a healthy pay packet. One little anecdote to that...........if it is the re-run dvd you have watched then the guy who interviews Leigh Adams after the meeting was none other than Paul Loram , Marks dad!! Current rulebook The total race points scored by each rider during the whole Event (Heats 123) will be credited as Grand Prix points in the overall Championship classi cation. Rules change, dont make bets with 15 year old info. Thats the same rules as in 1999, Mark was credited as 5th What we are saying is that because Lindgren is technically a replacement , if he finished in the top 8 would he automatically qualify for next year? As correctly pointed out Mark was 5th but still had to do the challenge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 He did get through in his last ride when he needed to come second. I believe Carl Stonehewer led the race and Mark was in third for 2 and a half laps behind Jacek Gollob before getting past. I was there in 1992 in Pffanhoffen for that world under 21 final. Mark lost to Leigh Adams in a run off. Joe Screen was third and yes Gollob was in it along with Gunnestad, Norris, Klingberg, Clausen and a young Mikael Karlsson as he was then. Mark was devastated to lose the run off as Sunbrite (or Coalite cant remember) had put up a large financial windfall if a Brit won both the senior and junior titles and with Havvy winning the World Title , Mark lost out on a healthy pay packet. One little anecdote to that...........if it is the re-run dvd you have watched then the guy who interviews Leigh Adams after the meeting was none other than Paul Loram , Marks dad!! Thats the same rules as in 1999, Mark was credited as 5th What we are saying is that because Lindgren is technically a replacement , if he finished in the top 8 would he automatically qualify for next year? As correctly pointed out Mark was 5th but still had to do the challenge It was different in between for sure. The way I read it, is that a point by any rider counts. In another rule it states that top 8 will qualify for 2017. So if FL finishes the season in top8, he'll be back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 Will Hampel ever come back ? If he does he wont be the same rider for a very long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSC67 Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 Personally I don't think that same rider should have been used to replace Hampel at all the Gps he's missed , an extra wild card at each GP should've been handed out if it was only going to be a temporary absence , if he's out for the longer term then give Freddie the race jacket permanttly its not fair on him to have to give up his place mid season and it means his points count for nowt , its also not fair on the other riders in the competition ,points scored by Freddie against them might cost them them the title . As for next year cant really see how they can justify giving Jarek a wild card unless he proves himself during the second half of the season that's if he does come back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted June 25, 2016 Report Share Posted June 25, 2016 Heard Kelvin mention that a decision on this would be made soon regarding Freddie and Jarek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted June 26, 2016 Report Share Posted June 26, 2016 Personally I don't think that same rider should have been used to replace Hampel at all the Gps he's missed , an extra wild card at each GP should've been handed out if it was only going to be a temporary absence , if he's out for the longer term then give Freddie the race jacket permanttly its not fair on him to have to give up his place mid season and it means his points count for nowt , its also not fair on the other riders in the competition ,points scored by Freddie against them might cost them them the title . As for next year cant really see how they can justify giving Jarek a wild card unless he proves himself during the second half of the season that's if he does come back Heard Kelvin mention that a decision on this would be made soon regarding Freddie and JarekI think it's Hampel's call to continue like this or give the rest of the season away. Dont think the rulebook allows the FIM or BSI to make it for him. After all they have made Hampel to sign in for the whole season already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted June 26, 2016 Report Share Posted June 26, 2016 I think it's Hampel's call to continue like this or give the rest of the season away. Dont think the rulebook allows the FIM or BSI to make it for him. After all they have made Hampel to sign in for the whole season already. However if the FIM/BSI were to say to Hampel "drop out now and we'll give you a wild card next year, but if you ride we won't give you one," that could be very persuasive. Lindgren could hardly be said to be making up the numbers, he is in top 8 and above Nicki Pedersen, so I'd like to see him continue. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted June 26, 2016 Report Share Posted June 26, 2016 However if the FIM/BSI were to say to Hampel "drop out now and we'll give you a wild card next year, but if you ride we won't give you one," that could be very persuasive. They could do that for sure, no probs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted June 27, 2016 Report Share Posted June 27, 2016 They could do that for sure, no probs.Guess they did not do it yet as Hampel out\freddie in for Cardiff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumpiefan Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 If Hampel comes back after the World Cup then basically he and Lindgren get half a season each. That benefits nobody. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mothorsen Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 Rules should be followed. Lindgren has made a decent effort as a sub, and Kildeman sealed the deal as a exelent sub last year. Roll on Freddie, and perhaps you'll take the obligatory swede-wc from Johnson next time around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Yorker Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 However if the FIM/BSI were to say to Hampel "drop out now and we'll give you a wild card next year, but if you ride we won't give you one," that could be very persuasive. Lindgren could hardly be said to be making up the numbers, he is in top 8 and above Nicki Pedersen, so I'd like to see him continue. Not getting into the rules I vote for Freddie finishing the season. Can't remember seeing many better heats than #6 in Prague. When he's running well he's exciting and I'm really happy to see him in the top eight. I no nothing about equipment (except dirt deflectors work well on the straits and not so much on the corners) but they mentioned Freddie promoting an engine and was very curious about that. Has speedway in general ever considered everyone using the same motors to keep the racing competitive....not in the GPS but on local levels. Here in the States they have done that in some stock car venues. Sorry for getting off topic....fascinating sport! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple.H. Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Not getting into the rules I vote for Freddie finishing the season. Can't remember seeing many better heats than #6 in Prague. When he's running well he's exciting and I'm really happy to see him in the top eight. I no nothing about equipment (except dirt deflectors work well on the straits and not so much on the corners) but they mentioned Freddie promoting an engine and was very curious about that. Has speedway in general ever considered everyone using the same motors to keep the racing competitive....not in the GPS but on local levels. Here in the States they have done that in some stock car venues. Sorry for getting off topic....fascinating sport!You must be the man with the tin opener that the authorities aren't very fond of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSC67 Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 If Hampel comes back after the World Cup then basically he and Lindgren get half a season each. That benefits nobody. I wonder what would of happened if Freddie had won a couple of GPs ,and was in contention for the title ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 I wonder what would of happened if Freddie had won a couple of GPs ,and was in contention for the title ?A cynic would say hampel would be rushed back to reduce the likelihood of a non monster rider winning the title 😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
severnsider Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 A cynic would say hampel would be rushed back to reduce the likelihood of a non monster rider winning the title But would they want a Red Bull rider? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted July 12, 2016 Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 A polish article from today. http://m.przegladsportowy.pl/zuzel/grand-prix,hampel-nie-straci-miejsca-w-grand-prix,artykul,700916,1,985.html Hampel obviously have the right to his place but FIM wants to know when Hampel plans to return since it is not ok towards Lindgren for Jarek to wait until the last minute to decide if he can ride or not in the gp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted July 19, 2016 Report Share Posted July 19, 2016 "Jaroslaw Hampel back on track!". He did a practice session yesterday. https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fsportowefakty.wp.pl%2Fzuzel%2F616406%2Fjaroslaw-hampel-znow-na-torze&edit-text= 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPNY Posted July 19, 2016 Report Share Posted July 19, 2016 Freddie is having a good season. He was unlucky in Cardiff, if he hadn't had taken that whack in heat 1 it could have been a very different night. He was actually leading Antonio down the back straight of the 1st attempt of heat 1. I personally hope he is allowed to see out the season, although I am a fan of Hampel and feel sorry for what the last year has been like for him. However it seems it benefits no one to give he and Freddie half a season each. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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