OveFundinFan Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 Injured badly 12 months ago, not ridden (competitively) since, given a permanent wild card for the 2016 GP's, not taken his spot, come this Saturday will be the 4th time (more then 33%) GP that the series first reserve, Freddie Lindgren has replaced him.. Question 1 - is it fair on Hample to expect him to qualify in the top eight this year for next years GP series, given the fact after Saturday there are just 7 GP's left. Last year Peter Kildemand replaced Hample for the last 9 GP's, rode splendidly but still didn't qualify in the top 8. Question 2 - is it fair on Freddie Lindgren, that with 3 GP's completed this season he is in with a good chance to qualify by right for next years GP's, that should Hample be declared fit for the 5th GP (Cardiff) that Freddie should be back as first reserve. Personally, I would stand Hample down this year from the GP's, and offer him a wild card for 2017 GP series. Meawhile Freddie would carry on this years series and go for qualifying in the top 8 for next year. Whats your views?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bruno Posted June 23, 2016 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 (edited) first thing for me would be spell his name correctly Edited June 23, 2016 by bruno 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkafag Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 Hampel should replace Lindgren, if he (Hampel) doesn’t get the points required to qualify he should be out – he has had his good will gestures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 I must admit to not being a big fan of Gerry Humble,but he got his place by right and when fit should ride in the remaining GPs Vote keep Gerry Humble in the GPs.Vote Remain 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumpiefan Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 Not being privvy to what was said in the winter you have to wonder did hampel expect to be back the first or second gp? Because surely he wouldn't have been given the wildcard if the powers that be had known he wouldn't be back till july. This suits nobody as it stands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 Rules should be followed. Hampel should be allowed to ride when he is fit. If he rides well he would then be in contention for a 2017 wild card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 Just going back to the op,and this was discussed years back when Hans came in and went really well,but I can't remember the answer.Do Freddies points actually count officially?Sure I remember some saying as Hans wasn't one of the original 15 riders his points didn't count towards the title.....Sure someone will know the answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 Iris, I also remember when Hans finished top 8 but his point wasn't counted. I am not sure but I think the rules have been changed so that reserves now are allowed to qualify by finishing top 8. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 Iris, I also remember when Hans finished top 8 but his point wasn't counted. I am not sure but I think the rules have been changed so that reserves now are allowed to qualify by finishing top 8. That is what I thought re rules changed.Glad you seem to agree with me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 What if Freddie rode in all the rounds and ended top would he be wc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 I have checked the rules and as far as I can see, it only says that top 8 in the overall classification are qualified. It does not have anything specified for a scenario where a substitute rider finishes top 8. http://www.fim-live.com/en/library/download/57331/no_cache/1/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 Yes Freddie points count and he could qualify for next year or win a medal if he go enough points. But hampel when fit should come back to take his place in the series. No guarantee of a wild card though, I believe he has had two in last few seasons already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple.H. Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 What if Freddie rode in all the rounds and ended top would he be wcBeing speedway it would probably go to the 2nd placed rider. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 Being speedway it would probably go to the 2nd placed rider.No doubt,"in the best interests of the sport" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 All points count towards the World Title irrelevent of wild card or not. In 1999 Mark Loram was ranked World Number 5 even though he was a wildcard in the series. After missing the first round he then rode in Round 2 in Sweden and won it (who can forget the final!) He then rode in the remaining rounds and finished 5 or 6 points away from being World Number 3. If he had got enough points he would have been World Number 3 and not demoted. If Lindgren does enough rounds and comes in the top 8 he will qualify by rights for next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 Iris, I also remember when Hans finished top 8 but his point wasn't counted. I am not sure but I think the rules have been changed so that reserves now are allowed to qualify by finishing top 8. Kildermand was a replacement in 2015. Haven't checked the rules myself but TV made a big issue of him or Chris Holder getting into the top 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 All points count towards the World Title irrelevent of wild card or not. In 1999 Mark Loram was ranked World Number 5 even though he was a wildcard in the series. After missing the first round he then rode in Round 2 in Sweden and won it (who can forget the final!) He then rode in the remaining rounds and finished 5 or 6 points away from being World Number 3. If he had got enough points he would have been World Number 3 and not demoted. If Lindgren does enough rounds and comes in the top 8 he will qualify by rights for next year Mark still had to qualify through the gp challenge that year though to ride in the 2000 series. So unless there are different rules regarding wild cards and reserves, Freddie can't qualify. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 Mark still had to qualify through the gp challenge that year though to ride in the 2000 series. So unless there are different rules regarding wild cards and reserves, Freddie can't qualify. i apologise you are quite correct. Mark had to go to the challenge and only just scraped in if i remember rightly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 i apologise you are quite correct. Mark had to go to the challenge and only just scraped in if i remember rightlyDid he win his last ride ride to qualify ?watched a old Dvd Adams beating Mark to the under 21s championship Gollob was there to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 i apologise you are quite correct. Mark had to go to the challenge and only just scraped in if i remember rightly No apology necessary. I actually thought it was out of order making him go to the challenge when he'd finished 5th in the series. They used the same 'eliminator' system as the gp, so it was a bit nervy! It would've been a travesty had he not qualified, because he was certainly in the top 2 or 3 in the world at that time. As he proved the following year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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