Phil The Ace Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 today's meeting is off. I'm looking forward to hear the reasons for this. Sounds like a lot of petty antics from mildenhall promotion. All though it's best to wait for mildenhall press release Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 Surely not the weather? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted June 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 Maybe something to do with Matt Williamson guesting for chessell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davi Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 Maybe something to do with Matt Williamson guesting for chessell I can imagine Mr Yawnthorne and his Spoon mates will be on over drive now on the NL facebook page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slip Slide Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 This will take some explaining Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhoundp Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 I can imagine Mr Yawnthorne and his Spoon mates will be on over drive now on the NL facebook page Well dont they have every right to be ?. My take on all of the goings on today is that Speedway once again shoots itself in the foot, is it on or off ? The Mildenhall Team Manager was saying it was off at around 9-30ish, but his assistant and PO was saying at 11-00ish that it was on, whatever the reasons are its done no good for the Sport in general, and shows why its losing fans year in year out and seems utterly incapable of doing anything to stop it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 Considering the tough stance the SCB took on Belle Vue over the famous "burst pipe" fake call off, they're going to have to come down like a ton of bricks on Mildenhall as this is far worse. You can't have clubs spitting the dummy and calling meetings off because they don't like the opposition's choice of guest. That would be setting a dangerous precedent. There's got to be a big fine, docking of 3 points, and a sanction on Mildenhall not calling off meetings without an SCB officials permission for 2 years. And looking at how David Hemsley was treated for his conduct, I'd be sweating about whether I'd be able to keep my promoters' licence if I was Kevin Jolly. Feel some sympathy for Mildenhall. Kevin Jolly is obviously upset, I don't blame him. Not sure if this is the correct way to go about things though 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandits4eva Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 I'd like to know how Cradley were looking to get a facility because one of their riders doesn't have machinery.. Read that Mildenhall were going to loan out an engine too... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 Why? As long as the guest is legal and has a lower average than the rider he is replacing, what right has Jolly got to try to choose the opposition guest rider? What right has he got to call a meeting off because he wants to have a tantrum? I had some sympathy for Belle Vue over burst pipe gate. They faced a huge financial loss if they ran a one-sided meeting without top stars due to an unfortunate missed flight. Mildenhall haven't done this due to facing a financial loss (in fact it was an attactive fixture which would draw a big crowd). They have done it purely due to having a tantrum. If Mildenhall thought there was anything wrong with the eligibility of the guest, they should have ridden under protest. Why? I don't like Cradley supporters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 I'd like to know how Cradley were looking to get a facility because one of their riders doesn't have machinery.. Read that Mildenhall were going to loan out an engine too... In the NL you can have a facility for any reason. At the end of last season we had a guest (or may have been R/R) for, funnily enough, Luke Chessell and he was in the pits supporting the Raiders. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 (edited) Why? As long as the guest is legal and has a lower average than the rider he is replacing, what right has Jolly got to try to choose the opposition guest rider? What right has he got to call a meeting off because he wants to have a tantrum? I had some sympathy for Belle Vue over burst pipe gate. They faced a huge financial loss if they ran a one-sided meeting without top stars due to an unfortunate missed flight. Mildenhall haven't done this due to facing a financial loss (in fact it was an attactive fixture which would draw a big crowd). They have done it purely due to having a tantrum. Because there's no way on this earth you should be allowed a guest because a rider doesn't have machinery (although according to the Mildenhall facebook page there was a bike waiting for him at West Row). That's beyond reason, and makes the use of guests (already a major sore point with a large number of speedway fans) farcical. What makes matters worse is that Jon Armstrong's wife recently had a baby that was some months premature. I don't think there was any serious risk to the child, but clearly there was some hospital treatment over and above the norm that was necessary. Not surprisingly, Armstrong wanted to be with his wife. Mildenhall were refused a guest and had to run with rider replacement. How can you justify allowing a guest for a rider without a bike - when in actual fact he has one - when you refuse to do so for a father with a new born child ? Its just another appalling example of the shocking and irresponsible decision making that the sport is subject to, and one thing is certain - we won't find out who made the decision or why. As far as I am concerned, Shads has it just about spot on. Kevin Jolly has every reason to be furious, but he shouldn't have called the meeting off because he'll be poleaxed for it and it looks like little more than spitting a dummy. I should add this is all speculation; the actual reason for postponement hasn't been made public. Edited June 19, 2016 by Halifaxtiger 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 Halifax Tiger is spot on. The Armstrong incident is probably why Kevin Jolly has behaved in this way. I fear for Mildenhall Speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 Because there's no way on this earth you should be allowed a guest because a rider doesn't have machinery (although according to the Mildenhall facebook page there was a bike waiting for him at West Row). That's beyond reason, and makes the use of guests (already a major sore point with a large number of speedway fans) farcical. What makes matters worse is that Jon Armstrong's wife recently had a baby that was some months premature. I don't think there was any serious risk to the child, but clearly there was some hospital treatment over and above the norm that was necessary. Not surprisingly, Armstrong wanted to be with his wife. Mildenhall were refused a guest and had to run with rider replacement. How can you justify allowing a guest for a rider without a bike - when in actual fact he has one - when you refuse to do so for a father with a new born child ? Its just another appalling example of the shocking and irresponsible decision making that the sport is subject to, and one thing is certain - we won't find out who made the decision or why. As far as I am concerned, Shads has it just about spot on. Kevin Jolly has every reason to be furious, but he shouldn't have called the meeting off because he'll be poleaxed for it and it looks like little more than spitting a dummy. I should add this is all speculation; the actual reason for postponement hasn't been made public. The NL allows a facility for any reason. One rider missing it's R/R, 2 or more missing and it's R/R and guests. Like it or not, both decisions are correct. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zlata prilba Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 Surely Williamsons average is higher than Chessells Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 The NL allows a facility for any reason. One rider missing it's R/R, 2 or more missing and it's R/R and guests. Like it or not, both decisions are correct. I stand corrected, Alan (I 'd like to thank Neil Watson for doing so by pm). I suppose 'I got wrecked last night, am hungover and don't fancy riding but will be in the bar having a few beers in the stadium bar instead' is reasonable grounds to allow a guest, isn't it ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 Mildenhall Speedway @MildenhallFT 3h3 hours ago Today's meeting is OFF - A full statement will follow in due course does that mean when they have come up with a reason to call it off? What a blindingly poor bit of PR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teaboy279 Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 http://www.speedwaygb.co/news.php?extend.30697 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zlata prilba Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 erm...noWell that surprised me.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 (edited) Yet the Armstrong situation is exactly the same as the Chessell situation. Both riders were missing for reasons other than injury or doubling up, and both teams allowed a facility for the riders. The opposition didn't spit the dummy over Mildenhall having a facility for Armstrong. So why are Mildenhall spitting the dummy over Cradley having a facility for Chessell? Mildenhall haven't been allowed a facility for Jon they have had to use rider replacement.There had been a hope I think that Jon would move to No.1 and then he would have a facility but there seemed to be an anomaly with the re declaration of averages preventing it. Edited June 19, 2016 by TMW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 I hope that it is a brief rest. Kevin Jolly might have made a mistake here but he is as far as I am concerned a very decent, likeable and approachable man who has put his heart and soul into Mildenhall Speedway. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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