markyb Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 Back in 1976, as a 13 year old, I could go along to a top flight "Gulf Oil" sponsored speedway meeting containing a league of 19 different teams. The method worked well. 13 heats, where a 40-38 winning score line was the most satisfying. No complicated rules and teams that contained riders of all levels. what we have in 2016 in comparison is an absolute shambles. "Elite" teams that contain 3rd division riders - they in their own right are worthy of putting on a show to speedway fans - so no dis-respect meant at this time. my point finally now is there are enough Elite and Premier and Natinal league teams today with worthy riders of all abilities to create a single league in the UK in 2017. As a home fan, we should be seeing a multitude of teams thoroughout a season - not seeing an "A" and "B" fixture in a season with the same teams within 2 or 3 weeks of each other Surely it ain't rocket science - but British speedway hierarchy seem to make it seem the opposite. Just a view from a simple speedway fan, who cares and obviously my ideas will have numerous pitfalls and no doubt these will be pointed out to me. However, could a single league allow for a regular day in the week where ALL British speedway takes place - it works in Poland, Sweden, Denmark etc. - this factor being brought u on a regular basis. Time to sign off, best regards, Lord Lucan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIRKYLANE Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 If all British tracks had their own stadia then yes , we could have one night like Sweden and Poland. The reality is most Speedway clubs exist in someone else's stadium and we have the night that suits the owners. Belle Vue Speedway never wanted Monday nights at the Greyhound stadium ... the owners decided they were having greyhounds on Thursday , Friday and Saturday. Similar situations elsewhere in Britain Yes I would love to go back to 16-19 teams in one league and maybe that day is approaching .. but I doubt it will happen in 2017 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrhbig Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 Back in 1976, as a 13 year old, I could go along to a top flight "Gulf Oil" sponsored speedway meeting containing a league of 19 different teams. The method worked well. 13 heats, where a 40-38 winning score line was the most satisfying. No complicated rules and teams that contained riders of all levels. what we have in 2016 in comparison is an absolute shambles. "Elite" teams that contain 3rd division riders - they in their own right are worthy of putting on a show to speedway fans - so no dis-respect meant at this time. my point finally now is there are enough Elite and Premier and Natinal league teams today with worthy riders of all abilities to create a single league in the UK in 2017. As a home fan, we should be seeing a multitude of teams thoroughout a season - not seeing an "A" and "B" fixture in a season with the same teams within 2 or 3 weeks of each other Surely it ain't rocket science - but British speedway hierarchy seem to make it seem the opposite. Just a view from a simple speedway fan, who cares and obviously my ideas will have numerous pitfalls and no doubt these will be pointed out to me. However, could a single league allow for a regular day in the week where ALL British speedway takes place - it works in Poland, Sweden, Denmark etc. - this factor being brought u on a regular basis. Time to sign off, best regards, Lord Lucan Not forgetting "the second half" which usually meant a total of 21 races. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 Yawn. Another month another slit your wrists post about the same old thing. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 Yawn. Another month another slit your wrists post about the same old thing. If such post are as common as you say, surely the BSPA should take notice of them 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunRobin Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 If such post are as common as you say, surely the BSPA should take notice of them You will be waiting a long time if you are expecting a sensible posting from. Once a Troll always a Troll! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 Back in 1976, as a 13 year old, I could go along to a top flight "Gulf Oil" sponsored speedway meeting containing a league of 19 different teams. The method worked well. 13 heats, where a 40-38 winning score line was the most satisfying. No complicated rules and teams that contained riders of all levels. what we have in 2016 in comparison is an absolute shambles. "Elite" teams that contain 3rd division riders - they in their own right are worthy of putting on a show to speedway fans - so no dis-respect meant at this time. my point finally now is there are enough Elite and Premier and Natinal league teams today with worthy riders of all abilities to create a single league in the UK in 2017. As a home fan, we should be seeing a multitude of teams thoroughout a season - not seeing an "A" and "B" fixture in a season with the same teams within 2 or 3 weeks of each other Surely it ain't rocket science - but British speedway hierarchy seem to make it seem the opposite. Just a view from a simple speedway fan, who cares and obviously my ideas will have numerous pitfalls and no doubt these will be pointed out to me. However, could a single league allow for a regular day in the week where ALL British speedway takes place - it works in Poland, Sweden, Denmark etc. - this factor being brought u on a regular basis. Time to sign off, best regards, Lord Lucan The senior leagues in Poland, Sweden and Denmark only have 7-8 teams like the BEL. Whats your point of comparing them with what might or might not be best suited to British Speedway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamish McRaker Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 Tempting to think in terms of hitting the "reset" button at a time from days gone by, and everything will be ok again. It's the mistake those Brexiteers people (poor deluded souls) are making at the moment. The simple truth is you can't re-create something, because it existed back then because the prevailing circumstances created it. Right now we have a very different set of prevailing circumstances, a very different world. What needs to be done is to create something suitable for now, and not use past templates. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyderd Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 Tempting to think in terms of hitting the "reset" button at a time from days gone by, and everything will be ok again. It's the mistake those Brexiteers people (poor deluded souls) are making at the moment. The simple truth is you can't re-create something, because it existed back then because the prevailing circumstances created it. Right now we have a very different set of prevailing circumstances, a very different world. What needs to be done is to create something suitable for now, and not use past templates. I'm guessing that you are with the in crowd, so you obviously have all the answers, do kindly tell us. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcts Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 Tempting to think in terms of hitting the "reset" button at a time from days gone by, and everything will be ok again. It's the mistake those Brexiteers people (poor deluded souls) are making at the moment. The simple truth is you can't re-create something, because it existed back then because the prevailing circumstances created it. Right now we have a very different set of prevailing circumstances, a very different world. What needs to be done is to create something suitable for now, and not use past templates. yes it is a very different world that the remain mob(head in the sand brigade),what we need is to use the templates that existed before we decided to join that corrupt undemocratic organisation.......if you can remember that far back? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 I really, really wish that people would peddle their political bigotry somewhere else than in a sports forum. The politicians have suspended their campaigns out of respect to that poor murdered MP. Some people don't get the hint do they? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamish McRaker Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 I really, really wish that people would peddle their political bigotry somewhere else than in a sports forum. The politicians have suspended their campaigns out of respect to that poor murdered MP. Some people don't get the hint do they? A very good point rmc. My apologies for starting it off. I will maybe resume my Scottish nationalist angle at a more suitable time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellevueace Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 Tempting to think in terms of hitting the "reset" button at a time from days gone by, and everything will be ok again. It's the mistake those Brexiteers people (poor deluded souls) are making at the moment. The simple truth is you can't re-create something, because it existed back then because the prevailing circumstances created it. Right now we have a very different set of prevailing circumstances, a very different world. What needs to be done is to create something suitable for now, and not use past templates. Differnt with the Bexiteers is they want to take back control of their own country and not be ruled by unelected european beauracrats that are undemocratic, unelected and corrupt(accounts never been signed off) . They want to regain their independance, democracy, and sovereignty the things millions gave their lives to safeguard during two world wars, those sacrifices wernt made to give the country away so instead of a accountable democracy future generations will live in an oligarchy where the powers that be will never be accountable to the people, they want to control their own borders and stop the total luncay destroying our country supported by a taxpayers giveaway of £350,000,000 per week. and thats just scratching the surface, so to comparing a betrayal of past and future generations giving our nation away to the speedway powers that be is ludicrous. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 Tempting to think in terms of hitting the "reset" button at a time from days gone by, and everything will be ok again. It's the mistake those Brexiteers people (poor deluded souls) are making at the moment. The simple truth is you can't re-create something, because it existed back then because the prevailing circumstances created it. Right now we have a very different set of prevailing circumstances, a very different world. What needs to be done is to create something suitable for now, and not use past templates. Differnt with the Bexiteers is they want to take back control of their own country and not be ruled by unelected european beauracrats that are undemocratic, unelected and corrupt(accounts never been signed off) . They want to regain their independance, democracy, and sovereignty the things millions gave their lives to safeguard during two world wars, those sacrifices wernt made to give the country away so instead of a accountable democracy future generations will live in an oligarchy where the powers that be will never be accountable to the people, they want to control their own borders and stop the total luncay destroying our country supported by a taxpayers giveaway of £350,000,000 per week. and thats just scratching the surface, so to comparing a betrayal of past and future generations giving our nation away to the speedway powers that be is ludicrous. Still undecided then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 Back in 1976, as a 13 year old, I could go along to a top flight "Gulf Oil" sponsored speedway meeting containing a league of 19 different teams. The method worked well. 13 heats, where a 40-38 winning score line was the most satisfying. No complicated rules and teams that contained riders of all levels. what we have in 2016 in comparison is an absolute shambles. "Elite" teams that contain 3rd division riders - they in their own right are worthy of putting on a show to speedway fans - so no dis-respect meant at this time. my point finally now is there are enough Elite and Premier and Natinal league teams today with worthy riders of all abilities to create a single league in the UK in 2017. As a home fan, we should be seeing a multitude of teams thoroughout a season - not seeing an "A" and "B" fixture in a season with the same teams within 2 or 3 weeks of each other Surely it ain't rocket science - but British speedway hierarchy seem to make it seem the opposite. Just a view from a simple speedway fan, who cares and obviously my ideas will have numerous pitfalls and no doubt these will be pointed out to me. However, could a single league allow for a regular day in the week where ALL British speedway takes place - it works in Poland, Sweden, Denmark etc. - this factor being brought u on a regular basis. Time to sign off, best regards, Lord Lucan But Poland don't race one night a week anymore, they use Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays now!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Flag Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 But Poland don't race one night a week anymore, they use Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays now!! and Thursday's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waspman Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 The 70s great days even at trick track newport crump rides the boards saw that many times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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