speedy bill Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 Why is Richard Hall not being allowed to ride in the national league WE at Buxton need a rider like him .. would make us a good team. I have been checking the rules and cant see how he cant ride what is going on ,Any one who could tell me why it would be interesting to know i cant find a rule that stops him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 Why is Richard Hall not being allowed to ride in the national league WE at Buxton need a rider like him .. would make us a good team. I have been checking the rules and cant see how he cant ride what is going on ,Any one who could tell me why it would be interesting to know i cant find a rule that stops him.In the interest of the sport would be a good one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 mabe you have no parking places for his walking frame and can he prepare for a race in under 2 minutes ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proud panther Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 bw double, I agree with you that Hall should be allowed to ride for Buxton. He just needs a few good meetings to get his confidence back, & find a sponsor to help him with his engines. Would hate to see him pack up, & he would give Buxton a massive boost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed ace Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Why is Richard Hall not being allowed to ride in the national league WE at Buxton need a rider like him .. would make us a good team. I have been checking the rules and cant see how he cant ride what is going on ,Any one who could tell me why it would be interesting to know i cant find a rule that stops him. Has he been asked? Â Can they afford him? Â Does it fit with his grasstrack/longtrack commitments? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Normski Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Think he was all set to ride for Birmingham until the nice chaps at BSPA blocked it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thbender Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Why is Richard Hall not being allowed to ride in the national league WE at Buxton need a rider like him .. would make us a good team. I have been checking the rules and cant see how he cant ride what is going on ,Any one who could tell me why it would be interesting to know i cant find a rule that stops him. Don't know why so many people have a downer on Richard Hall. He's had a tough couple of years and a spell in the NL might help restore his confidence. People should be reminded of what he's capable of. Watch here from 2½ minutes in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqogJAPDL8c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Don't know why so many people have a downer on Richard Hall. He's had a tough couple of years and a spell in the NL might help restore his confidence. People should be reminded of what he's capable of. Watch here from 2½ minutes in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqogJAPDL8c  Berwick gave Hall a chance last year by signing him in a reserve position, sadly for both parties it didn't work out. Sheffield then signed him for the start of this season, where he would be riding at reserve and against PL draft riders from the NL, sadly again for both parties it didn't work out and Hall was dropped so he has had chances. I think the BSPA are quite correct in blocking Hall`s move to the NL as I hope they will with Mitchel Davey who I see has now qualified for dual nationality. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Dodds Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Is he actually being blocked from riding in the National League or is it that his average was too high for Birmingham? (Not being argumentative, I genuinely can't remember) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Normski Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 His move was blocked due to his previous NL average which he attained in 2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Third Man Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Yes he is being blocked by using an average from 2004 and not a converted PL average Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSC67 Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 IMHO it doesn't matter what Richards average is he shouldn't be allowed to ride in the NL because that's not why the league was set up , It's not supposed to be a fall back for riders who can't get a team in the PL it supposed to be about promoting youth nd getting them some expierence . 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 IMHO it doesn't matter what Richards average is he shouldn't be allowed to ride in the NL because that's not why the league was set up , It's not supposed to be a fall back for riders who can't get a team in the PL it supposed to be about promoting youth nd getting them some expierence . Â Absolutely, the NL cant be there for the likes of Hall to pick up easy wins, maybe that`s become a problem for the NL where is seems there`s a win at all costs to some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romans lovechild Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 IMHO it doesn't matter what Richards average is he shouldn't be allowed to ride in the NL because that's not why the league was set up , It's not supposed to be a fall back for riders who can't get a team in the PL it supposed to be about promoting youth nd getting them some expierence . tony atkins, jon armstong, david mason, anyone? these guys do a great job with the young guys and are someone they look upto and respect, im sure if richard was allowed to ride in the NL, these guys would hold him up there with the afore mentioned 3 riders. we need to be looking after the british riders that are willing to ride and not blocking them from riding, unlike some PL clubs that sign foreign riders with poor averages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukas Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 IMHO it doesn't matter what Richards average is he shouldn't be allowed to ride in the NL because that's not why the league was set up , It's not supposed to be a fall back for riders who can't get a team in the PL it supposed to be about promoting youth nd getting them some expierence .What like tony atkin and john Armstrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanF Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 I don't know if he should be allowed or not. However, you have to apply the rules consistently. If it is ok for Tony Atkin to ride then you can't stop him due to age. If Luke Bowen can ride on a converted average, then Richard Hall should be allowed to ride on a converted average. I don't know why Speedway needs to tie itself up in knots with overly complicated rules. Also, there should never, ever be an "in the best interests of British speedway" rule. The best interests of British speedway would be served by applying the rules consistently. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 As it has been said Richard has not been block riding in the league. Â Unfortunately the BSPA see fit to use an average that is 12 years old, which ridiculous. Â By doing what they have done means that a National League club can legit-ably sign Tai Woffinden. Â Once again the BSPA tie themselves in knots. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 (edited) What like tony atkin and john Armstrong? How old were Mark Simmons & Seemond Stephens when they turned out for the Devils NL side in 2010? Edited June 14, 2016 by Shads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandelion Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 I don't see what the problem on letting Richard Hall in the NL is, he wouldn't be the best rider in the league, Adam Ellis for example... Richard Hall was BORN in Britain but riders like Mudgway and Branford were born on the other side of the world, yes maybe they have British licences now, but Richard was BORN in Britain. Also the argument of older riders not making it in the PL and dropping down being a problem... Ummm, Luke Bowen anyone? Exactly the same story there as far as I can tell (Not saying Bowen shouldn't allowed, I think he should, but why not Richard?)  I mean I hate Richard Hall, although I feel terrible for saying that the risks speedway riders take, but I think he should be allowed to continue racing in the NL if he fits in on his converted average, I have no doubt that he can be a very good rider but I feel that people dislike him because he seems to have this reputation about him, for example the Auty incident, although as I've heard Auty was encouraging it while he was laying on the track... But that's besides the point, he seems like a bit of a dick (Having never talked to him however) Richard Hall and his relation to Jack Parkinson-Blackburn at Birimingham could bring JPB on immensely, so it'd be good for the youth too, and who will Richard replace there? Zach? Well he's already got another team, Tom? well so has he  Just getting my opinions out there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slyfox Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 (edited) The BSPA need to be consistent. If the NL is for up and coming riders then they need to stick to that and not allow all the older riders mentioned above, plus Ben Wilson who has not been mentioned . As they do allow this to happen, then they should not hold Richard to a 12 year old N L average which is not relevant now & let him use a P L converted average which is relevant and has been used by many other riders who have dropped down recently. Edited June 14, 2016 by Sly Fox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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