Daniel Smith Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Isnt there a reserve for this years SWC, if so then surely the team picks itself. Woffinden King Lambert Cook Nicholls No way can Harris be considered, either on last night or by his performances so far in this years SGP series. The reserve has to be under-21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Isnt there a reserve for this years SWC, if so then surely the team picks itself. Woffinden King Lambert Cook Nicholls No way can Harris be considered, either on last night or by his performances so far in this years SGP series. THE RESERVE MUST BE U21 AND CAN ONLY RIDE IN CASE OF INJURY TO ONE OF THE FOUR SELECTED RIDERS Personally I think tai cook and lambert are certainties. Ellis at reserve. Then one of Nicholls Harris king or s worrall,probably in that order for me. I wouldnt totally write harris off tjough. Yes Harris has been poor round belle Vue, BUT the track SHOULD suit him and he has rarely let gb down. And he is top brit in the El averages. Maybe woffy should lend him a bike for the swc. Isnt there a reserve for this years SWC, if so then surely the team picks itself. Woffinden King Lambert Cook Nicholls No way can Harris be considered, either on last night or by his performances so far in this years SGP series. THE RESERVE MUST BE U21 AND CAN ONLY RIDE IN CASE OF INJURY TO ONE OF THE FOUR SELECTED RIDERS Personally I think tai cook and lambert are certainties. Ellis at reserve. Then one of Nicholls Harris king or s worrall,probably in that order for me. I wouldnt totally write harris off tjough. Yes Harris has been poor round belle Vue, BUT the track SHOULD suit him and he has rarely let gb down. And he is top brit in the El averages. Maybe woffy should lend him a bike for the swc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 If there was total flexibility on the reserves then Lambert at reserve would make total sense. However they can only replace an injured rider so he is wasted at number 5. The track last night wasnt exactly dry so many people immediatly jumping on who should and shouldnt ride. Im an Ipswich fan but even after last nights performance i dont think King is a certainty. He only did ok there in the league meeting on a dry track beaten twice by Nicholls and twice by Cook. He looked good in the dirt last night but is he ahead of Lambert and Nicholls for a place? For me the only 2 certaintys are Tai and Cook. After that we have 3 riders for 2 places , King, Nicholls and Lambert. Nobody else in my opinion should be considered unless injuries happen and then Steve Worrall is next in line. The reserve should be our under 21 champion who likes the big tracks and thats not Adam Ellis! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 For me Tai and Lambert are certainties whatever,the rest Rosco has to pick what he thinks is best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagonshocker Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 I think some people are selecting their team based on one meeting on an exceptionally wet track. To suggest the team is nailed on with over a month of racing to get through is ludicrous imo. Exceptionally wet? What meeting was you watching last night? It only barely rode like a wet track in the final and even then still had a grippy outer line to bomb around on..The likes of Cook Lambert and of course King rode it consistently all evening so don't quite understand your point...i do agree though that a month is a tad early but you do have to start thinking about it and last night is about the best benchmark were going to get before then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 If there was total flexibility on the reserves then Lambert at reserve would make total sense. However they can only replace an injured rider so he is wasted at number 5. For me the only 2 certaintys are Tai and Cook. After that we have 3 riders for 2 places , King, Nicholls and Lambert. Nobody else in my opinion should be considered unless injuries happen and then Steve Worrall is next in line. The reserve should be our under 21 champion who likes the big tracks and thats not Adam Ellis! Agreed re lambert I think he showed he needs to be in the four. The rule is ludicrous though. I still think Harris is in the mix for a spot, wouldn't have him in myself but can understand why Rosco might. The u21 champ who likes big tracks? I know it was wet but bates scored only 1 in a much weaker field than will he in the swc final. That said he or Ellis would be doing exceptionally well to pick up a point if called on so I don't think it will be a factor in gbs performance either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 We need to get our boys up there, get some real fast gear under them (PJR?) and put them through their paces? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 That's why Cook is so quick now as he's running the PJR engines. The only Brit outside of Woffinden to do so I believe which surprises me. Believe Lambert is now on BAR's and that to shows on recent performances. PJR's though are way ahead of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Exceptionally wet? What meeting was you watching last night? It only barely rode like a wet track in the final and even then still had a grippy outer line to bomb around on..The likes of Cook Lambert and of course King rode it consistently all evening so don't quite understand your point...i do agree though that a month is a tad early but you do have to start thinking about it and last night is about the best benchmark were going to get before then The point I was trying to make was if the track was dry it would ride differently and bike set up would need to change. Danny King was excellent in theses conditions but was only average in the league meeting there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 The track tonight shows that regardless of weather it's wet or dry the meeting should go ahead, however riders ride tracks differently in various conditions. For me if its wet like tonight I would go with Woffy, Cook,Lambert, King, Ellis seems to be other fans choice although I have not seen him yet at Belle Vue. If it's dry then the team is easier to pick IMHO.........Woffy,Cook,Worrall, Nichols. reserve is Lambert. Totally agree regarding King, Lambert needs to be in the team though so one of Worrall/Nicholls should be left out of the dry track team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCookster Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 The point I was trying to make was if the track was dry it would ride differently and bike set up would need to change. Danny King was excellent in theses conditions but was only average in the league meeting there. And might that not simply be down to the fact that he has learned from his league outing at the track and has figured out a better way to ride the place as a result? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 And might that not simply be down to the fact that he has learned from his league outing at the track and has figured out a better way to ride the place as a result? No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Science Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Who had Danny King in their side before last night ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCookster Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 No. A nice, considered and well-rounded response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 track needs to be dry for Nicholls and deep for King, so maybe see what it's like on the day. the rest should be Woffinden, Lambert, Cook, Ellis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4gillian Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 I still think Nicholls may well be in the 1-4. Picking Team GB's team for next month purely based upon last nights 'freak' track conditions is rather silly as Danny King is pretty naff most of the time these days to be fair. Last night just suited him and his style however the boy did good. For me it's 4 from these...Woofy, Cook, Nicholls, King and Lambert. Bomber's current form is way off so he may miss his first SWC for quite a few years even though he's been consistently good in years gone by. So my shout is; Woofy Cook Nicholls Lambert Plus our next best U21 rider...Ellis? p.s. Steve Worrall? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPNY Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 I like Danny King a lot he's a good rider and a very nice bloke. However in his previous appearances at SWC he's been quite out of his depth. I think we need to look at last night as a unique meeting and not really as a yardstick as the weather conditions were a big factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 track needs to be dry for Nicholls and deep for King, so maybe see what it's like on the day. the rest should be Woffinden, Lambert, Cook, Ellis Do not think you can leave the team selection till the day which is why I said earlier Rosco needs to get some of the possible riders to ride the track when it is dry either as a practice or against a select team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 I didn't think it was 'freak' conditions last night - the track held out remarkably well. The selection for the World Cup needs to be done on a horses-for-courses basis, so I would go for: Tai Woffinden Craig Cook Robert Lambert Danny King For me, the first three are the automatic choices, while King showed last night he is better around the NSS than either Nicholls or Harris. All the best Rob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Agreed re lambert I think he showed he needs to be in the four. The rule is ludicrous though. I still think Harris is in the mix for a spot, wouldn't have him in myself but can understand why Rosco might. The u21 champ who likes big tracks? I know it was wet but bates scored only 1 in a much weaker field than will he in the swc final. That said he or Ellis would be doing exceptionally well to pick up a point if called on so I don't think it will be a factor in gbs performance either way. Yes Bates struggled last night but whoever rides as reserve (bar Lambert) would struggle against anyone else. For me Bates is as good as if not better than Ellis so as Under 21 champion in my view he deserves that spot. Lets be fair either Ellis or Bates if needed would struggle to get a point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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