dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 belated congratulations to plymouth devils. the team that almost wasnt . followed this on the updates site and it looked to be a great meeting . very posative comments from posters. well done to all concerned . strange running the team event one after another, are the pits not big enough to get all the riders/gear in ? maybe next year , the riders should be signed up for 2 days and not be allowed to pull out of the meeting . lost respect for all those guys that pulled out, but still watched sundays meeting . shame on you . hope the bspa can fine them and make sure it does not happen again . it was only a one off meeting (sat/sun) so why moan about the money involved they forget all the meeting that the fans turned up , paid to see them . only one weekend out of your life . its not a deal breaker . ritchie lets the cat out of the bag . sloppy gob should keep it shut and let others sort it out . maybe needs the money for a new flux capacitor ! let himself down, big style . again, well done the devils ,bandits , comets on the day . pity no throphies for 3rd/4th . panthers thought they just had to turn up .L.O.L. think the earlier part of your post answers the second.... "Couldnt fit all the riders gear in" Perhaps thats why they need to be paid properly as they have to pay for all that gear. As for "Ritchie lets the cat out of the bag - sloppy gob" It takes a bigger man to speak out when something is wrong even though you know you will get stick from some for it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 Well done to the Devils.Good results for the "so called underdogs ". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 We was told camping was £20 but if you wanted to be hooked up to electric that was a staggering £50. Camping for my tent was just £10 for the night. An absolute bargain. Fantastic weekend. All the best Rob 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 strange running the team event one after another, are the pits not big enough to get all the riders/gear in ? To run the three semi-finals concurrently would leave too long a gap between an individual rider's heats. For example Aaron Summers (No2 in red in the first semi) raced in Heats 2 and 8, if the semis had run concurrently he would have ridden in Heats 4 & 22. It also keeps the anticipation alive, would the excitement of the finale of the first semi been as high had Heats 11 & 12 actually been Heats 31 and 34? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanF Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 Over from America and loved it. My 13 year old was at his first meeting and he thought it was fantastic. Said filling in a program really helped him understand what was happening. He was cheering for Workington as Ricky Wells was riding. He's already badgering me to move to California! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 Overall I'd say the weekend was a success. Sure, there are bound to be some who will find fault in anything. I personally didn't think the individual worked very well with that format. Better to have a 16 rider, 23 heat format. The weather was perfect and apart from the individual meeting the dust was kept to a minimum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonB Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 I couldn't make the weekend, but am interested what the camping facilities were like? Did any of you camp, and were there many fans doing the same thing? I have a touring caravan and if it was OK, may try and make it next year if it was any good. Comments anybody? Thanks. There were a fair few camping and we took our touring caravan on the 500 yard journey from our house which backs onto the showground The campsite is basic but perfectly ok. £10 per night but the electric hook up at £50 was extortionate (although that is the showground not the speedway club afaik).Good atmosphere and having the facilities in the van to cook your own food and chill your own beer certainly reduced the costs of attending the event. Hopefully see you there next year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scipio777 Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 Re Camping - Mixed feelings about this one. We went down with the intention of camping for 3 nights, with electric hook up. On arrival we were told we could now only camp for two nights because there was an event at the showground on Monday. Really annoying, but could have been a disaster if this was part of a main camping holiday, with the next sites booked. I booked Monday off work and was looking forward to the slightly longer break. Also the late arrival time - you could not get in until 5pm which was inconvenient. Lunchtime would be better. The loss of the Sunday night meant camping with hook up now worked out at £35.00 a night - for that money you expect top quality, which Peterborough is not - very basic, dated facilities which did not appear to be cleaned and we had to prompt to get the loo roll refreshed. Didn't find any facilities for dish washing either. Not bad for £10.00 a night, but appalling for £35.00 (I appreciate hook up was my choice!) Also had to pay the £2.00 parking fee for driving through the car park to get to the camp site!! If this was a donation to the Ben fund then great, but no one said anything about that to us. Re Racing - The racing was great. The track staff largely kept the dust down , though they seemed to struggle more with it on the Sunday for some reason. Earlier start would have been better on Saturday, followed by Big Screen TV showing the SWC round. Would have made more money than the singer I imagine. As would some decent bands. It would have been nice to be able to pick up a printed race-sheet on Sunday rather than have to do all that writing, again a donation to the ben fund for a colour race card would have been a nice touch? Good weekend all in all, with some niggles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted July 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 There were a fair few camping and we took our touring caravan on the 500 yard journey from our house which backs onto the showground The campsite is basic but perfectly ok. £10 per night but the electric hook up at £50 was extortionate (although that is the showground not the speedway club afaik).Good atmosphere and having the facilities in the van to cook your own food and chill your own beer certainly reduced the costs of attending the event. Hopefully see you there next year! You're mental! I'd be in my own comfy bed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 First and foremost I'm guessing that when the riders pay was revealed, not enough to even cover costs by the sounds of it, most of the Witches team decided it wasn't worth the effort! . out of interest how much was the pay rates? and who revealed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 Parking - £2 per day Entrance - £20 per day, £30 for a 2 day pass (adults) Don't know children's and concessions admission Camping - Pretty sure it was £10 per tent per night Bargain.. !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 Bargain.. !! And furthermore, if you're camping, you pay the £10 for that, but it saves you the £2 parking per day!! So it actually costs only £6 extra to camp. Unless you have a fancy caravan or want electric - that costs more. Still rather impressed that I put up a tent all on my own All the best Rob 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 Post #181 revealed 1st amount of £106 but later on £160 & £163 were mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Blue Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 out of interest how much was the pay rates? and who revealed? Apparently/allegedly it was a flat rate of£160 per rider. Which I'm reliably informed comes well short of the combined travel and machinery costs. The source comes from a team manager and has apparently been confirmed by someone who talked to a rider about it, also there was an unconfirmed riders meeting to discuss the matter before the event even started. This has been debated earlier in this thread. Better not go any further with this as I'll no doubt get berated again about being negative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lucan Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 Great effort from the Comets to get runner's up spot, only able to follow about half a dozen races on Updates before I set off for work and it wasn't looking too good then so yeah, done very well after that, considering we've hardly ridden anywhere as a team over the last 6/7wks I'm proud of them!! Disappointing to put all that effort in tho and get nothing to show for it, prizes for the winner's only, that's pathetic and should not happen, on the podium, reward, end of, no wonder so many weren't that bothered once the lack of prizes/funds for the riders were revealed? Bit of a shame that as you would think after all this time a workable format for "all aspects" of this event would be in place by now, it reads, by a lot of these previous posts, that the racing over the weekend was of a very good standard so why spoil it by offering no rewards for top "three" in the final and not offering enough in general to cover riders costs to even be there, very strange? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 Great effort from the Comets to get runner's up spot, only able to follow about half a dozen races on Updates before I set off for work and it wasn't looking too good then so yeah, done very well after that, considering we've hardly ridden anywhere as a team over the last 6/7wks I'm proud of them!! Disappointing to put all that effort in tho and get nothing to show for it, prizes for the winner's only, that's pathetic and should not happen, on the podium, reward, end of, no wonder so many weren't that bothered once the lack of prizes/funds for the riders were revealed? Bit of a shame that as you would think after all this time a workable format for "all aspects" of this event would be in place by now, it reads, by a lot of these previous posts, that the racing over the weekend was of a very good standard so why spoil it by offering no rewards for top "three" in the final and not offering enough in general to cover riders costs to even be there, very strange? Stop whingeing, it was a fantastic weekend's racing. All the best Rob 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers89 Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 Let's face it, who keeps a second and third place medal, they just gather dust and sure no rider is interested in them at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 I would think that the pay rates were based on nobody having a clue how many would turn up and watch and not wanting to have a stonking loss on their hands. Crowd looked pretty decent to me, and judging by how many enjoyed it, would have thought it can only grow from here on. This should then make the pay rates higher for next year, now they have a base figure to work with. To be fair, I would say less than a handful of riders looked to be giving less than 100% so credit to the majority for the mega effort they made. We all rightfully have a pop at the BSPA when they cock it up on a regular basis, but should now give them credit for the weekend, certainly one of the best I have ever had watching the sport for 40 odd years. There are lessons to be learned, but overall I thought it was a brilliant success. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolPanther Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 I thoroughly enjoyed the whole experience.I think most Panthers supporters would agree it would have been more enjoyable if we had not been seeded,although it was still entertaining Saturday as a neutral. Credit to the riders that put the effort in, on such low pay, thanks to all the volunteers and staff who worked tirelessly in the heat it wouldn't happen without you..or the fans who turned out in numbers to enjoy themselves. It was the 'Speedway Family' at its very best. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 I would think that the pay rates were based on nobody having a clue how many would turn up and watch and not wanting to have a stonking loss on their hands. Crowd looked pretty decent to me, and judging by how many enjoyed it, would have thought it can only grow from here on. This should then make the pay rates higher for next year, now they have a base figure to work with. To be fair, I would say less than a handful of riders looked to be giving less than 100% so credit to the majority for the mega effort they made. We all rightfully have a pop at the BSPA when they cock it up on a regular basis, but should now give them credit for the weekend, certainly one of the best I have ever had watching the sport for 40 odd years. There are lessons to be learned, but overall I thought it was a brilliant success. Is there not a Standard Pay rate for PL riders irrespective of what the riders actually negotiate with the clubs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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