neb Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 would pushing a bike across the grass cause more damage than 20 plus blokes with studded boots skidding and sliding around,seems a bit petty too me. maybe riding a bike i could understand but pushing it i wouldn't of thought so.do they allow a grass cutter on the pitch that i would guess would be far heavier than a speedway bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 would pushing a bike across the grass cause more damage than 20 plus blokes with studded boots skidding and sliding around,seems a bit petty too me. maybe riding a bike i could understand but pushing it i wouldn't of thought so.do they allow a grass cutter on the pitch that i would guess would be far heavier than a speedway bike. Does not matter really, the rules have been stated for the season. And if the landlords have stated it, it then needs to be definitely abide by. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 would pushing a bike across the grass cause more damage than 20 plus blokes with studded boots skidding and sliding around,seems a bit petty too me. maybe riding a bike i could understand but pushing it i wouldn't of thought so.do they allow a grass cutter on the pitch that i would guess would be far heavier than a speedway bike. It's not for us to say, it is the landlords. At some tracks like Berwick, you were never allowed on the grass even before the new BSPA 2016 ruling. Why should any rider challenge a non grass ruling and jeopardise the continuation of the rental situation by ignoring the rules. The signs are there, so riders should have no problems reading them and obeying them. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neb Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 It's not for us to say, it is the landlords. At some tracks like Berwick, you were never allowed on the grass even before the new BSPA 2016 ruling. Why should any rider challenge a non grass ruling and jeopardise the continuation of the rental situation by ignoring the rules. The signs are there, so riders should have no problems reading them and obeying them. it just seem a bit petty thats all i am saying if a rider is not allowed on there then how come the flag marshal's are cant see the damage caused would be any different.what if the air ambulance had to land on the pitch would they be told they cant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lucan Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 Lord Lucan it was stated in the rules for 2016 that riders were not allowed on the centre green under any circumstances,therefor alex davies was bang out of order he knew the rules ,he was hustled into the first bend by mason then packed in on the back straight so it was SPIT THE DUMMY OUT moment. If that's what it says on the tin then yeah, out of order and yes, Davies did look a bit perplexed!! The riders are told before the meeting about not going on the grass, it's also stated in the local rules which are on a large sign in both sets of pits. The track staff are also told to keep the riders off the grass if they go on during the meeting so the gentleman in question was just doing as he asked. Unfortunately Alex Davies didn't pay attention to any of that. It was very unpleasant and I won't comment any further on it because I would probably get myself in trouble! The BSPA rules which was brought in this year was to protect the people on the centre green, I believe due to a near miss at another track last season. At Derwent Park it is a particularly hot topic because the rugby club really do not like a bike or anything else going on their pitch, especially the day before a match, we rent the stadium from them so have to respect their wishes. Have to make those signs a bit bigger then CD as some people clearly don't see them? Are there no penalties included in any of these rules for such instances, maybe if there were perhaps riders would think twice before ignoring what, by your description, are very noticable warnings to such behaviour? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 it just seem a bit petty thats all i am saying if a rider is not allowed on there then how come the flag marshal's are cant see the damage caused would be any different.what if the air ambulance had to land on the pitch would they be told they cant? I don't think your first example needs an answer, and especially your second one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neb Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 I don't think your first example needs an answer, and especially your second one. its pretty simple really what the difference between a flag marshal and a rider being on the grass? its the same as asking the rugby players not to cross the track to get onto the pitch,what harm is it doing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comet Dan Posted June 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 its pretty simple really what the difference between a flag marshal and a rider being on the grass? its the same as asking the rugby players not to cross the track to get onto the pitch,what harm is it doing? A bike being pushed probably does very damage, a bike under power however could do a lot of damage, this is why the rule is kept simple - no bikes on the pitch at all, it really is that simple and has been that way for as long as I've been involved and been largely kept to, trouble free, until last night sadly. As I said earlier, it's not our stadium so we have to abide by the rules. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 (edited) it just seem a bit petty thats all i am saying if a rider is not allowed on there then how come the flag marshal's are cant see the damage caused would be any different.what if the air ambulance had to land on the pitch would they be told they cant? no need for this post no one wants the air ambulance but if its needed then obviously rules or guidelines come 2nd when peoples lives are at risk as long as safety guidelines are followed Edited June 12, 2016 by scarra 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neb Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 no need for this post no one wants the air ambulance but if its needed then obviously rules or guidelines come 2nd when peoples lives are at risk as long as safety guidelines are followed i could not agree more thats why a rider should be able to for safety reasons clear the track even if that means going on the precious grass,without hassle off the flag marshal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 i could not agree more thats why a rider should be able to for safety reasons clear the track even if that means going on the precious grass,without hassle off the flag marshal.theres a difference between going on the grass and going across the grass... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear_Bottom Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 theres a difference between going on the grass and going across the grass... Yeh man... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylorj Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 Alex Davies made a complete idiot of himself most of the night!!! The incident with the Marshal was disgusting and he should have been thrown out of the meeting . Workington Comets don't make the rules as the stadium belongs to the Rugby so why should morons be able jeopardise our lease, theres plenty of room to clear the track without going over the white lines to the pitch Not sure why he came round for a wheelie after heat 14......Ryan Blacklock a NL rider had just whooped his backside and left him standing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 yep . plenty of room around the rugger pitch to go around it without venturing onto the playing field .. i do believe the men with odd shaped balls gain access to the pitch by walking over a mat/carpet or something . could be wrong tho .. well don blackie on showing the baby aussie the way home and well done adam for his team riding. almost done it . matt going well as well . and that certain 5 pointer . mega . 10 paid 13 wasn't it .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 i could not agree more thats why a rider should be able to for safety reasons clear the track even if that means going on the precious grass,without hassle off the flag marshal. there is room to go off track but stay off the playing area of the grass im not a rugby or football fan but when speedway tracks are around the outside of such pitchs or dog tracks come to that then speedway teams, riders and fans must respect the terms laid down them and regardless of the issue of the grass the fag marshall was a offical of workington speedway and alex davies was out of order in how he reacted to the flag marshalls instructions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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