Daniel Smith Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 Is the security of the Elite League genuinely under threat. Coventry & Swindon's situations look bleak for their whole future's and now the shinanigans at Leicester. Are we at the end of the Elite League? I believe so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 Yes please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted June 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 Yes please. Maybe, but not under the circumstances anyone wanted. A genuine that to the closure of 3 clubs at the end of the same season. Disaster IMO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waco Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 Without new teams and why would they anyway i see it going soon..One big Premier with north and south sections would be the way to go financially 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 Is the security of the Elite League genuinely under threat. Coventry & Swindon's situations look bleak for their whole future's and now the shinanigans at Leicester. Are we at the end of the Elite League? I believe so I do think the EL could be on its last legs and I would not object to a larger PL, but can anyone see any common sense coming from the promoters or would the promoters of the current EL clubs cause chaos in any new organisation. Do not discount Swindons future yet. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 The 'end of the EL' has been going on for at least 7 years now! But the promoters won't give up on it til there is 0% chance of it continuing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 Certainly looks pretty bleak. I think Swindon will be up and running but Coventry are in trouble, Leicester have been dragged in to the mire and if memory serves nothing is concrete for Lakeside next year. Obviously there are ambitious clubs that might be offered incentives to step up? Rye House, Kent and Ipswich? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 At least if Ipswich move up Starman can't banish Gavan to the PL threads!! Lol Would have to be big incentives to move up, Rye House being the most likely candidate at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 1 large PL would worry me. Personally I would be fine with it. I love the PL racing. But there are alot of people I know and see on social media etc that are EL snobs. The EL clubs fans will half at most. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 It needs two divisons of 10 teams each, with 2 or 3 up and 2 or 3 down promotion/relegation. Low team points limits. Scrap the FDR system, maybe have 6-man teams. Top 5 in each dvision have playoffs. Bottom 5 in Division 1 have relegation playoffs. Bottom 5 in Div 2 have playoffs for one-off playoff v winners of NL, with possible promotion/relegation at stake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 Are we at the end of the Elite League? I believe so Why? Swindon will carry on at the Abbey, Glasgow are keen to move up whilst Ipswich have said they would step back up when it suits them. The sport needs a top flight of racing , without it the sport is as good as dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 Interesting interview on BBC Radio Solent this morning with Matt Ford wishing for more fixtures next season - either from an expanded EL and/or a second competition. Fans to be polled for their opinions and views to be put to the BSPA AGM in October/November!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolebolton Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 Why? Swindon will carry on at the Abbey, Glasgow are keen to move up whilst Ipswich have said they would step back up when it suits them. The sport needs a top flight of racing , without it the sport is as good as dead. I agree we need the top flight otherwise how do we get good British riders? We need Lambert getting tips from NKI for example and Adam Ellis getting them from Holder and Andersen. Not in a million years will the Elite League close due to two things Matt Ford and Belle Vue new stadium. As a Poole fan, Matt Ford is not going to want Brady Kurtz as his number 1 in the Premier League. Until the richest and biggest club says so well its never going to happen. Maybe, Coventry go but can see Ipswich and Glasgow coming up and Rye House then a league of 10 again which would mean more fixtures which everyone wants. I like seeing Holder, Doyle, Zagar, AJ, NKI, KK and Fast Freddie ride here they will never ride again unless we don't have the EL. Just need a fixed race night and then all of a sudden it will get better. Just for example all it needs is Dudek and Magic to go to Poole which could happen then Holder to Swindon and Doyle to the Lions and the league can get better. Just need Poole, Belle Vue, Swindon and King's Lynn to get better riders and then it will trickle down. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Hunter Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 (edited) I remember that, when there was talk of Leicester moving up to the Elite League, someone came on here and said 'be careful what you wish for'. Never been a truer saying and worth repeating! I watch speedway in both the Elite and Premier League and much prefer the latter! Edited June 8, 2016 by Happy Hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted June 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 I remember that, when there was talk of Leicester moving up to the Elite League, someone came on here and said 'be careful what you wish for'. Never been a truer saying and worth repeating! I watch speedway in both the Elite and Premier League and much prefer the latter! As do I. Absolutely miss the PL at King's Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 Interesting interview on BBC Radio Solent this morning with Matt Ford wishing for more fixtures next season - either from an expanded EL and/or a second competition. Fans to be polled for their opinions and views to be put to the BSPA AGM in October/November!! more meetings , he needs to get his track sorted first, it carnt hold up to a match every fortnight, more meetings would mean more holes appearing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damosuzuki Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 Do Glasgow want up though? I've not heard. The promotion are losing substantial sums in the PL, wouldn't the EL just make it worse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 (edited) The time has clearly come to put the EL out of its misery and to combine into one senior league but with one key proviso. It must be based on current PL team strengths and costs at worst . It would be appalling if the financially weaker PL tracks were thrown out of business in order to bail out the top division, as happened in the 90s. The problem is though that certain influences in the EL have poisoned that league, as can be seen by the reluctance of sane promotions to go anywhere near it and an unworkable rule book, full of clauses inserted to close loopholes exploited by those influences leaving it incoherent, illogical and requiring a degree in statistical research in order to just work out who can ride in a team. That poison must not be allowed to pollute the lower leagues. The PL needs to stand firm and defend what it's got. It and the NL can be the saviour of the sport running at a sane level relative to attendances. Sadly, entrenched attitudes such as "I only DO EL" need to be changed. You either love speedway or names. If you want the names the message sadly has to be in the short to mid term - "There are cheap flights out there to the GPs and Polish League". It's far from ideal but we need regular speedway with workable rules and teams - and certainly not have tracks closing for a month in peak season! Even if by some miracle Coventry, Swindon and Leicester are all able to enter the EL in 2017, and I pray they can, it is only postponing the crisis. Perhaps it does need one year of a single race night, possibly seven home and seven away on the Swedish and Polish model just to prove how that system is unworkable here. One thing is certain - the PL and to a certain extent NL must not be damaged in order to rescue the EL tracks. Edited June 8, 2016 by rmc 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 Interesting interview on BBC Radio Solent this morning with Matt Ford wishing for more fixtures next season - either from an expanded EL and/or a second competition. Fans to be polled for their opinions and views to be put to the BSPA AGM in October/November!!You mean they are actually going to take on board what the fans think? Blimey! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 (edited) Why? Swindon will carry on at the Abbey, Glasgow are keen to move up whilst Ipswich have said they would step back up when it suits them. The sport needs a top flight of racing , without it the sport is as good as dead. i could be wrong but i belive the sport was very strong between 1965 - 68 after amalgamation (no top div as such - one level) this led to a revival that lasted for years with BL Div 2 and a host of British boys coming through if we levelled the remaining clubs in a single league (or divided in 2) there would be many opportunities to develop young British riders and operate an affordable league EDIT: of course - i mean 2 leagues with NL continuing more or less as is Edited June 8, 2016 by ch958 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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