Bspa Making Sport Look So Amateurish

[steve roberts]

You don't get that smell anymore !

I know it's been mentioned elsewhere but I remember the late Rob Woffenden placing Castrol 'R' in his petrol driven lawnmower so as to get a 'fix!'

[BWitcher]

 

 

I subscribe to SKY for the football. I just downgraded my subs and lost Europsport and the Swedish Elite matches, which I wasn't disappointed about. I don't subscribe to the magazine, Speedway Star. My brother buys from ASDA or WH Smiths and gives it to me when he's flicked through it! I have every magazine from day one, silly as I am, that's why he gives it to me. and am interested now in the history of the sport more than the present. I keep mags for reference matter and because I like it!

 

Now, please try harder to trip me up....

 

You are one of those "Don't call my sport" people ain't you?

 

I knew it... I knew it.

 

You rotter!

 

I don't need to trip you up, you're doing a fine job of that yourself.

 

You cannot give any form of opinion as to whether the sport is exciting now if you don't watch it. It is plainly ridiculous to even attempt to do so.

 

I am far from a protector of the sport and criticise it and the promoters a lot. However, I watch the sport, attend when I can and as such can comment on both the good and the bad.

 

What you saw years ago has absolutely zero relevance to the sport now. Your own local track, Belle Vue has a fantastic new stadium and a track that has been producing thrilling racing that ANYONE with even the slightest interest in speedway would find entertaining. You however, because you feel that you should not have to pay to get in, do not attend said track and continue to fire your barbed comments from home with your curtains drawn.

 

Should you go along to the new stadium and don't find it entertaining your opinion would have some validity. As it is, you're just moaning for moaning's sake.

[moxey63]

For god's sake, some people. I am not saying that the sport isn't exciting. I have never said that. I am saying, I don't believe in it anymore. I don't believe in a sport where riders race every where and there is no loyalty to your team, as many riders have minds on their next fixture, perhaps in Sweden, maybe Poland.

 

I can't believe a sport that encourages teams to drop points to allow them to have a shake up, just about the right time for a Play-Off challenge.

 

The sport has lost its true identity. I have just had a think, and we have riders now dressed in motor cross gear. We have a sport that is more fashioned and aimed at formula one or motorcycling.

 

Perhaps I fell for the sport when your team was as important to the men who actually rode for it. I didn't start watching it as an individual sport, which it has now become. Riders will ride here, there and blinking everywhere. I bet some even have to peer at their bib they have on, see who they are riding for!

 

Speedway used to be different than other forms of motor sport. I can't say it is now.

 

To me, anyway, just watching a race because it gives me a reason to fill in a programme at the end of it, that is long gone.

 

You won't change my view, as I won't change yours.

 

I gave my reasons for why I chose to stop attending, but you feel I should still attend, an "eat your greens" type of defence. I thought he topic was about the way the sport was being run, and I gave my experience of what put me off.

 

What a ridiculous idea, go to Belle Vue and enjoy it. I bet you'll tell me next to enjoy the music you do.

 

Speedway certainly is entertaining... they are having to put the "Stadium Full" signs up at most tracks nowadays.

 

As I mentioned earlier, this has turned into a playground spat.

 

Perhaps this post should be renamed

 

Moxey Making Sport Look So Amateurish

 

or

 

ASK BWITCHER WHAT MOXEY SHOULD LIKE

 

We got of topic at one point.

Edited June 11, 2016 by moxey63

[ColinMills]

For god's sake, some people. I am not saying that the sport isn't exciting. I have never said that. I am saying, I don't believe in it anymore. I don't believe in a sport where riders race every where and there is no loyalty to your team, as many riders have minds on their next fixture, perhaps in Sweden, maybe Poland.

 

I can't believe a sport that encourages teams to drop points to allow them to have a shake up, just about the right time for a Play-Off challenge.

 

The sport has lost its true identity. I have just had a think, and we have riders now dressed in motor cross gear. We have a sport that is more fashioned and aimed at formula one or motorcycling.

 

Perhaps I fell for the sport when your team was as important to the men who actually rode for it. I didn't start watching it as an individual sport, which it has now become. Riders will ride here, there and blinking everywhere. I bet some even have to peer at their bib they have on, see who they are riding for!

 

Speedway used to be different than other forms of motor sport. I can't say it is now.

 

To me, anyway, just watching a race because it gives me a reason to fill in a programme at the end of it, that is long gone.

 

You won't change my view, as I won't change yours.

 

I gave my reasons for why I chose to stop attending, but you feel I should still attend, an "eat your greens" type of defence. I thought he topic was about the way the sport was being run, and I gave my experience of what put me off.

 

What a ridiculous idea, go to Belle Vue and enjoy it. I bet you'll tell me next to enjoy the music you do.

 

Speedway certainly is entertaining... they are having to put the "Stadium Full" signs up at most tracks nowadays.

 

As I mentioned earlier, this has turned into a playground spat.

 

Perhaps this post should be renamed

 

Moxey Making Sport Look So Amateurish

 

or

 

ASK BWITCHER WHAT MOXEY SHOULD LIKE

 

We got of topic at one point.

not a single thing wrong about your view point, nor should you have to even explain your points of view

[moxey63]

Thanks Colin Mills

 

I am not saying that my opinion is right. In fact, the only thing right about it... is that it has the word "my" in it!

[ColinMills]

the whole point of a forum is about differing viewpoints...a "view" hasnt got to be a "fact"

[John Leslie]

Weird how some folk think it's not right to talk about Speedway because they don't go anymore

What you've got to take into account is the context and reason for the comments.

 

You see, Alan...Ooops I mean Moxey...used to write a programme column for a club and he got in for free because of this. And all was good with the sport.

 

Then there were changes to the match programme and Moxey's column was no longer needed, and he was told he would have to pay to get in.

Poor Moxey spat his dummy and refused to go and pay at the turnstiles like lesser mortals do.

Suddenly his opinion of the sport changed completely, and everything which was good immediately became bad overnight.

 

But it wasn't the sport that changed overnight, it was him. And even though the promoter who stopped his column is no longer promoting, Moxey still continues his boring bitter rants.

[Gresham]

Maybe....i don't know peoples 'history'....however he is still entitled to his opinion.

The sad thing is...nearly every thread is turned on its head by the same people...telling others what they should think.

People have opinions...we don't all agree...but its the same old people, same old crap nearly every thread.

If people stuck to the subject and ignored forum members, this place would be a whole more pleasant experience.

[moxey63]

Ok.. I'll own up. As I don't know John Leslie's identity, I'll take his knowledge of my feelings with a pinch of salt.

 

I am Alan... Alan Robertson. And I'm... well... I'm an ex-speedway follower.

 

Now... that's better. It's in the open.

 

Now, that is all that's true about Mr Leslie's post.

 

When someone has an opinion, let's attack the person and not the real reasons he's posting.

 

I see the creepy fella who pasted this myth... has also been kicked in to touch at Belle Vue...

 

The real Alan Robertson story is in The Speedway Memories book, produced a few years ago by Retro Speedway... I wrote it all... and for nothing. You don't have to get paid for doing something... and I ain't bitter that I didn't get paid.

 

Now... let's keep to the subject....

Edited June 11, 2016 by moxey63

[steve roberts]

the whole point of a forum is about differing viewpoints...a "view" hasnt got to be a "fact"

Absolutely!

[John Leslie]

Maybe....i don't know peoples 'history'....however he is still entitled to his opinion.

 

Of course he's entitled to his opinion. I'm just giving a bit of background as to why his opinion changed overnight.

Why did he think the sport was great one day, but he was making bitter posts about how bad the sport is the next day?

Did the sport massively change in the space of 24 hours? No....but it was the day his free entry stopped....maybe that's what made him so bitter.

[moxey63]

I used to post as moxey63 when I was getting in for free. My opinions were the same back then. Even posted on the Belle Vue forum.

 

But, John Leslie, whoever you really are - you are so delighted at trying to "out" me - why are you being so childish.

 

Who are you... really?

 

You can't take delight in telling people I ain't who I am posting as... and yet you are hiding behind a fake name.

 

If you have any further discussions.... PM me... please do. I have just PM'd you... coward!!!!

 

I'll meet up and buy you a pint or tea, coffee. Money doesn't matter to me.

 

Stop hiding behind a false name.

Edited June 11, 2016 by moxey63

[steve roberts]

I used to post as moxey63 when I was getting in for free. My opinions were the same back then. Even posted on the Belle Vue forum.

 

But, John Leslie, whoever you really are - you are so delighted at trying to "out" me - why are you being so childish.

 

Who are you... really?

 

You can't take delight in telling people I ain't who I am posting as... and yet you are hiding behind a fake name.

 

Typical.

...and a fake profile picture!

[ColinMills]

never get why people have made up names, but their choice i guess

[moxey63]

I can't believe grown men behave so badly. We are all on here following the same sport... and yet, snidey remarks are made when you offer a different opinion to theirs.

 

I haven't said anything to offend anyone, call names to anyone. So what is this with John Leslie?

 

No wonder so many have walked away... free admission or not.

 

The thing about it, I often posted on the Belle Vue forum about how badly fans were being treated... and I wasn't even paying to get in. Now, 10 years on, it is amazing how many of those fans, that argued with me saying it wasn't so, they have vanished from the scene and the present BV forum is full of the expressions they were calling me for having!

The internet, and these forums, they are like being a driver of a car - you can say whatever you like to another user, as you feel safe. But face to face, you'd behave totally different.

 

We deserve the sport we have, speedway, as... as grown individuals, we behave so pathetically. Why must we always be right and mock others' views?

Edited June 11, 2016 by moxey63

[ColinMills]

A NATIONAL SPEEDWAY WEEK....with full blown publicity..."at a track near you" ..a festival kind of approach, local bands at each venue before AND after the speedway, picture opportunities, face painting, hog roast, etc, just throw everything behind a summer night, but money needs to be spent on "PROMOTION"..

[topsoil]

A NATIONAL SPEEDWAY WEEK....with full blown publicity..."at a track near you" ..a festival kind of approach, local bands at each venue before AND after the speedway, picture opportunities, face painting, hog roast, etc, just throw everything behind a summer night, but money needs to be spent on "PROMOTION"..

Glasgow are living proof that if you promote and publicise your team and put on a show, people will come. I know people will say Glasgow are fortunate to have financial backing enabling them to have such a publicity drive, but sometimes you have to speculate to accumulate and the alternative is to just wither away.

[Shale Searcher]

For god's sake, some people. I am not saying that the sport isn't exciting. I have never said that. I am saying, I don't believe in it anymore. I don't believe in a sport where riders race every where and there is no loyalty to your team, as many riders have minds on their next fixture, perhaps in Sweden, maybe Poland.

 

I can't believe a sport that encourages teams to drop points to allow them to have a shake up, just about the right time for a Play-Off challenge.

 

The sport has lost its true identity. I have just had a think, and we have riders now dressed in motor cross gear. We have a sport that is more fashioned and aimed at formula one or motorcycling.

 

Perhaps I fell for the sport when your team was as important to the men who actually rode for it. I didn't start watching it as an individual sport, which it has now become. Riders will ride here, there and blinking everywhere. I bet some even have to peer at their bib they have on, see who they are riding for!

 

Speedway used to be different than other forms of motor sport. I can't say it is now.

 

To me, anyway, just watching a race because it gives me a reason to fill in a programme at the end of it, that is long gone.

 

You won't change my view, as I won't change yours.

 

I gave my reasons for why I chose to stop attending, but you feel I should still attend, an "eat your greens" type of defence. I thought he topic was about the way the sport was being run, and I gave my experience of what put me off.

 

What a ridiculous idea, go to Belle Vue and enjoy it. I bet you'll tell me next to enjoy the music you do.

 

Speedway certainly is entertaining... they are having to put the "Stadium Full" signs up at most tracks nowadays.

 

As I mentioned earlier, this has turned into a playground spat.

 

Perhaps this post should be renamed

 

Moxey Making Sport Look So Amateurish

 

or

 

ASK BWITCHER WHAT MOXEY SHOULD LIKE

 

We got of topic at one point.

 

Don't know how to isolate a section of this post, but you mentioned that speedway has lost its "identity"

 

I actually think you mean it has lost its "integrity"

 

Enough said...