BWitcher Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 It's like somebody going on one of those Facebook sites, recalling memories of days gone. You don't live in them there days, wish you did, and therefore keep strolling back thanks to the site. Or it's like fetching out those holiday snaps we keep. You never throw them away but never go back to the resort. I also feel, as a person that can still be bothered and hasn't completely washed their hands, that speedway is still a fine sport. With a bit of tuning, and the dumping of the Double Points and return of tac subs is a start, perhaps one day I may rekindle my fondness of the holiday resort that is speedway. At the moment though... it is like Blackpool. Please... back to the topic in hand. Yeah right.. A great speedway race is a great speedway race. You enjoy it or you don't. You have zero idea about the quality in the sport at the moment, whether good or bad as you have admitted you don't attend, you don't even watch on TV and would draw the curtain if it was in your backyard. I stand by what I said, you have to be a very strange person to frequent a forum regarding something you have zero interest in. Unless of course it's all rubbish and you do still watch but that wouldn't gain you as much attention. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 I don't get why people feel the need to explain the rules to the mates they take along, most people don't understand the rules anyway so if they're explaining them to their mates they're getting it wrong anyway! Why the hell is a newbie filling in a programme anyway to see about guests and r/r? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gresham Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 I don't understand how people voice an opinion about how THEY feel about the sport...and get told by others, that they actually don't feel that way, and should feel differently, because it doesn't match their views. The mind boggles... Everyone is different...everyone has different ideas about how it could be improved, why they don't go anymore, or why they still enjoy it. People don't need to tell others how they should feel...it is their personal opinion. I've 'Returned' to watching live Speedway again after a little lay off, and have brought new people along. I'm thoroughly hooked again...but unfortunately, the more you read and try to understand the rules, regs, recent history, thoughts from managers and topics about recent events, it does tend to leave you feeling frustrated. When team managers and ref's are struggling to understand the rules, god help the rest of us. I simply shrug my shoulders now, laugh, and just enjoy the racing...too much information spoils it for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Johnson Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 Just seems to me "fans" need a very big reason to attend and a very small excuse to stop going".. just enjoy it whilst its there, its not the end of the world if your team lost that week 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxey63 Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 (edited) Some fans will watch anything, accept anything... so long as they have a pen and scoresheet to fill in! Come on fellas, what's more important - a properly run sport or getting the time for the last race? Edited June 10, 2016 by moxey63 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 Come on fellas, what's more important - a properly run sport or getting the time for the last race? They have absolutely nothing to do with each other. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 Some fans will watch anything, accept anything... so long as they have a pen and scoresheet to fill in! Come on fellas, what's more important - a properly run sport or getting the time for the last race? My night is ruined if I don't get all the race times that have been recorded by an old guy with a stop watch when the referee lets the tapes go up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 My night is ruined if I don't get all the race times that have been recorded by an old guy with a stop watch when the referee lets the tapes go up! You really do have an obsession with age. When I had the dreadful task of timekeeping I was aged between 32 and 36. I did comment to a ref once how absurd it was that I had to be licensed to be a timekeeper but not an announcer. I could do far more damage to the sport with a mic than a watch. Yes, timekeeping is absurd but try easing off on the ageism - it might stop people moving on to the next message before you've got to your point. Oh, apologies for being nearly 60 - I keep forgetting to die - very selfish of me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 I would love to be around when SCB is old to see what his opinions are then compared to now, but unfortunately I won't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 I would love to be around when SCB is old to see what his opinions are then compared to now, but unfortunately I won't. I doubt whether he'll make it that far. "Youth is so wasted on the young". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gresham Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 Haha...you learn something new every day...It hadn't crossed my mind that times were still being done with a stop watch manually...what a waste of time ( excuse the pun ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxey63 Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 (edited) The problem with speedway (and fans) is.. when a forum question is asked, about the way the sport is being run, and someone of 40 years' watching has his opinions criticised on why he stopped attending, airing his views on what turned him off, they think he has no right to have an opinion... because he doesn't pay to watch and doesn't know how bad speedway is being run right now! Believe me, chaps, it was being run quite badly when I last went... I still get the Speedway Star and have access to this thing called the internet. So I keep up to date with things. Please let me have an opinion. Now... back to the stop watch subject... While on the subject of stopwatches and times... how long before old moxey63 is beaten up on here? Edited June 11, 2016 by moxey63 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 Why the hell would you be posting on a forum about something you don't go to, you don't watch and you don't enjoy. Some very strange folk about. I must admit its something that has always bemused me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxey63 Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 I must admit its something that has always bemused me. May I refer you to post 52, kind sir? Yet again, a post attacking an ex-attendee and not wishing to inspect the core reasons they stopped attending. If there aren't people like me, who diver between not attending and not stopping contact completely, then how can you resolve the problem of a failing sport? For decades fans have been allowed to disappear. What was their reasons and why didn't the people that run the sport have a customer care department or something? Treat it as a missing person case, each one, and find out why they disappeared. We have all met one - a "I used to go to speedway" person. Some of the time life just got in the way of some. But there are others who (and I'm sure a number have been lost due to Belle Vue's new stadium mess in March), who have just been allowed to stew on their growing frustrations with the sport and then allowed to pass on into being an ex-fan. But speedway fans, the small band that still exist, still treat people having an opinion opposite to theirs as being a playground spat. It happens on here. "Don't call my sport." That is the attitude. "As long as I still like it, then I think it's wonderfull." It is the opinion they have, often one they think is right and then fail to see the ever-growing gaps on the terraces. But one lost fan means charges going up next season on admission, means some can't afford to go any more. Speedway 2016 is in the worst state I can remember. Whatever happened to the boom promised and expected... if only speedway got more publicity? Wall-to-wall TV coverage has not done a jot of good to introducing new fans. It is like the old opinion that speedway needed a British world champion for the media to notice it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 May I refer you to post 52, kind sir? Yet again, a post attacking an ex-attendee and not wishing to inspect the core reasons they stopped attending. If there aren't people like me, who diver between not attending and not stopping contact completely, then how can you resolve the problem of a failing sport? For decades fans have been allowed to disappear. What was their reasons and why didn't the people that run the sport have a customer care department or something? Treat it as a missing person case, each one, and find out why they disappeared. We have all met one - a "I used to go to speedway" person. Some of the time life just got in the way of some. But there are others who (and I'm sure a number have been lost due to Belle Vue's new stadium mess in March), who have just been allowed to stew on their growing frustrations with the sport and then allowed to pass on into being an ex-fan. But speedway fans, the small band that still exist, still treat people having an opinion opposite to theirs as being a playground spat. It happens on here. "Don't call my sport." That is the attitude. "As long as I still like it, then I think it's wonderfull." It is the opinion they have, often one they think is right and then fail to see the ever-growing gaps on the terraces. But one lost fan means charges going up next season on admission, means some can't afford to go any more. Speedway 2016 is in the worst state I can remember. Whatever happened to the boom promised and expected... if only speedway got more publicity? Wall-to-wall TV coverage has not done a jot of good to introducing new fans. It is like the old opinion that speedway needed a British world champion for the media to notice it. Good post! I attended speedway for over thirty years (1972-2004) at my local track Oxford and ventured all over the country and Europe costing me no little money but I would not have changed anything for the world. Some great times. Due to re-location I stopped going but it doesn't mean that I no longer have a voice. I was involved at all sorts of levels (giving promotional talks at schools, helping out at the stadium etc) I follow the threads on here but don't get deeply involved with the day to day activities of modern speedway as I no longer have first hand knowledge of the sport and can't pass a concise comment on same. However if the opportunity arises that I am able to pass comment on subjects I feel qualified then I do so. At the end of the day people aren't forced to read a particular thread and/or comment and can just pass over it (as I do) if one so wishes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 (edited) I would love to be around when SCB is old to see what his opinions are then compared to now, but unfortunately I won't. I dont think SCB was being ageist , more just descriptive , if he had said just some Black guy playing the blues wouldn't automatically be racist .. May I refer you to post 52, kind sir? Yet again, a post attacking an ex-attendee and not wishing to inspect the core reasons they stopped attending. If there aren't people like me, who diver between not attending and not stopping contact completely, then how can you resolve the problem of a failing sport? For decades fans have been allowed to disappear. What was their reasons and why didn't the people that run the sport have a customer care department or something? Treat it as a missing person case, each one, and find out why they disappeared. We have all met one - a "I used to go to speedway" person. Some of the time life just got in the way of some. But there are others who (and I'm sure a number have been lost due to Belle Vue's new stadium mess in March), who have just been allowed to stew on their growing frustrations with the sport and then allowed to pass on into being an ex-fan. But speedway fans, the small band that still exist, still treat people having an opinion opposite to theirs as being a playground spat. It happens on here. "Don't call my sport." That is the attitude. "As long as I still like it, then I think it's wonderfull." It is the opinion they have, often one they think is right and then fail to see the ever-growing gaps on the terraces. But one lost fan means charges going up next season on admission, means some can't afford to go any more. Speedway 2016 is in the worst state I can remember. Whatever happened to the boom promised and expected... if only speedway got more publicity? Wall-to-wall TV coverage has not done a jot of good to introducing new fans. It is like the old opinion that speedway needed a British world champion for the media to notice it. Speedway needs a Barry Sheene . and getting former addicts back would help as well . you may be able to stay clean for years , but all it takes is some Pusher to get you within a sniff of methanol and Castrol R , and your'e addicted again , speedway more addictive than crack cocaine Edited June 11, 2016 by speedibee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gresham Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 Weird how some folk think it's not right to talk about Speedway because they don't go anymore, and don't find it entertaining anymore...yet pop down to the general chat part of the forum, and you'll find hundreds of posts by people giving 'strong opinion' about politics, who obviously haven't got a Scooby about it, yet no one goes calling them out...all very odd. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Science Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 I dont think SCB was being ageist , more just descriptive , if he had said just some Black guy playing the blues wouldn't automatically be racist .. Speedway needs a Barry Sheene . and getting former addicts back would help as well . you may be able to stay clean for years , but all it takes is some Pusher to get you within a sniff of methanol and Castrol R , and your'e addicted again , speedway more addictive than crack cocaine You don't get that smell anymore ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 The problem with speedway (and fans) is.. when a forum question is asked, about the way the sport is being run, and someone of 40 years' watching has his opinions criticised on why he stopped attending, airing his views on what turned him off, they think he has no right to have an opinion... because he doesn't pay to watch and doesn't know how bad speedway is being run right now! Believe me, chaps, it was being run quite badly when I last went... I still get the Speedway Star and have access to this thing called the internet. So I keep up to date with things. Please let me have an opinion. Now... back to the stop watch subject... While on the subject of stopwatches and times... how long before old moxey63 is beaten up on here? Lmao! Now this is getting hilarious. So, a sport you don't attend. A sport that you don't even watch on TV, when you are subscribed to the channel it is on. A sport who you would close the curtains to if it was in your own backyard.. Yet you subscribe to a magazine about the sport?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxey63 Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 Lmao! Now this is getting hilarious. So, a sport you don't attend. A sport that you don't even watch on TV, when you are subscribed to the channel it is on. A sport who you would close the curtains to if it was in your own backyard.. Yet you subscribe to a magazine about the sport?? I subscribe to SKY for the football. I just downgraded my subs and lost Europsport and the Swedish Elite matches, which I wasn't disappointed about. I don't subscribe to the magazine, Speedway Star. My brother buys from ASDA or WH Smiths and gives it to me when he's flicked through it! I have every magazine from day one, silly as I am, that's why he gives it to me. and am interested now in the history of the sport more than the present. I keep mags for reference matter and because I like it! Now, please try harder to trip me up.... You are one of those "Don't call my sport" people ain't you? I knew it... I knew it. You rotter! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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