MD Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 Did you read the paragraph above the section you chose to highlight? I'll post it again for clarification: I overheard Stewart Dickson on Sunday, when being questioned about the track, saying he would rather have a slick track on days like Sunday as it is a nightmare to manage a grippy track when it is so warm. So why prepare it like it was, the hot weather was known about having been forecast since the previous Monday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 I really hope we are not going down the road of preparing a track simply to unsettle the opposition , rather than prepare a fair track to give the crowd value for money . You shouldn't have to with the team you've put together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 In addition, how many days when it is 25deg and that level of humidity do you think we'll see again this year in Glasgow? It wasnt fit for purpose, the temperature is irrelevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solidmango Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 i see over watering is now regarded as a grippey track Who said that? It wasnt fit for purpose, the temperature is irrelevant. It wasn't fit for purpose is correct, the weather is not irrelevant. It's an important ingredient as to why it wasn't fit for purpose in the same way as if it was cold and wet. Or do you think they thought f&@k it, we'll just set up a terrible track this week? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 Who said that? It wasn't fit for purpose is correct, the weather is not irrelevant. It's an important ingredient as to why it wasn't fit for purpose in the same way as if it was cold and wet. Or do you think they thought f&@k it, we'll just set up a terrible track this week? We have no idea what the track decision maker thought, hence so much debate on here since. On the other hand the weather predicted for Sunday was known days in advance but not reflected in the track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANSE Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 If the track was so bad how can Josh only be .4 outside track record in HEAT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 Did you read the paragraph above the section you chose to highlight? I'll post it again for clarification: I overheard Stewart Dickson on Sunday, when being questioned about the track, saying he would rather have a slick track on days like Sunday as it is a nightmare to manage a grippy track when it is so warm. In addition, how many days when it is 25deg and that level of humidity do you think we'll see again this year in Glasgow? Yes i did read it but it really doesn't tell us anything other than Stewart would prefer slick tracks on day's like Sunday no need to post it again which then begs the question why was it prepared the way it was in that intense heat if a slick track was preferred. As MD has said everybody and there granny knew how warm the forecast was for Sunday so for the benefit off crowd entertainment would a slick track not have been wiser as i say we all learn by our mistakes hopefully lessons have been learned. If the track was so bad how can Josh only be .4 outside track record in HEAT 1 Was more the lack off entertainment that was the issue as the less experienced riders struggled to turn the bike riders like Josh & Aaron have that track craft that they can ride anything and look quick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solidmango Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 We have no idea what the track decision maker thought, hence so much debate on here since. On the other hand the weather predicted for Sunday was known days in advance but not reflected in the track. I've already said, I heard Stewart discussing it with someone, I was no further than 3-4ft from him and said he it's a nightmare to prepare a grippy track when the temp is so high, he would much rather have a slick track which is a lot easier to deal with. Slick tracks are no good for passing or entertaining but it's a fine balance, Sunday wasn't great but others weeks have been really good. My point is that most are being heavily critical of a track from one week when it has been particularly poor but given the circumstances perhaps we should cut the guy some slack it's not like that every week, far from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 I've already said, I heard Stewart discussing it with someone, I was no further than 3-4ft from him and said he it's a nightmare to prepare a grippy track when the temp is so high, he would much rather have a slick track which is a lot easier to deal with. Slick tracks are no good for passing or entertaining but it's a fine balance, Sunday wasn't great but others weeks have been really good. My point is that most are being heavily critical of a track from one week when it has been particularly poor but given the circumstances perhaps we should cut the guy some slack it's not like that every week, far from it. We get it , track preparing is hard . All people are commenting on is that Sunday's track wasn't the best by a long way . The sight of our captain out on the 3rd bend directing the grading procedure was a clue something was amiss . Stewart does a decent job in that department , hopefully Sunday was a one off and on Sunday we get a track like the one we got for the Newcastle meeting . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solidmango Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 Agreed, the points I was taking issue with were the ones stating we are constantly changing the track to catch out the opposition and the constant negativity around the track. I was at the meeting on Sunday and was as critical as everyone else but I am also looking at other factors and taking a more measured view I.e other meetings have been terrific (Newcastle for example) and the weather was exceptionally different to what we expect in Scotland, albeit predicted, and thus it would appear difficult to get a balance of a good race track and a slick processional one. Anyway, my main point is that whilst everyone is entitled to their opinion there seems to be constant negativity. It was Ben Barker till recently and now it's the track. What's next I wonder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george.m Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 (edited) I can still remember the days when you'd turn up and there was zero dirt on the track and a nice blue patch entering beds 1 and 3 after a few heats. The result - zero overtaking and fans complaining. On Sunday there was one area of concern between bends 3 and 4, this was the area Aaron stood at with Stewart and was subsequently given treatment, but no watering. Next race - at these bends - clouds of dust. Some pics from Sunday, including Aaron standing at this area. https://www.flickr.com/photos/glasgowtigersspeedway/albums/72157666782330164 Edited June 7, 2016 by george.m 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 Agreed, the points I was taking issue with were the ones stating we are constantly changing the track to catch out the opposition and the constant negativity around the track. I was at the meeting on Sunday and was as critical as everyone else but I am also looking at other factors and taking a more measured view I.e other meetings have been terrific (Newcastle for example) and the weather was exceptionally different to what we expect in Scotland, albeit predicted, and thus it would appear difficult to get a balance of a good race track and a slick processional one. Anyway, my main point is that whilst everyone is entitled to their opinion there seems to be constant negativity. It was Ben Barker till recently and now it's the track. What's next I wonder. You couldn't be further from the truth with that one yes one or two aired there opinion on Ben as they are entitled to. the track criticism s a no brainer as paying customers but it is not the norm as most meetings this season have been entertaining and Stewart deserves credit for his track prep before Sunday. No one having a pop just airing there opinion hopefully it is an isolated one regards the track i am sure we appreciate how difficult it must have been to prepare. But 99% off the time everything that is happening to our great club is positive and long may it continue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 I wouldn't be moaning if glasgows track and stadium was in cradley 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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