MrMungo Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 On the plus side, it was good to see Mike Bennett at Speedway again! I didn't think the track was that bad, to be honest. It was far from brilliant, but if you got out of the start and could attack the track & dictact your own lines, it seemed to be fine. The racing was far from brilliant, but that was probably more to do with the Glasgow riders flying from the start more often than not. In fact, there were a few times yesterday when it made me think of Exeter. I don't know if that was because Glasgow were so sharp or whether a few of the Plymouth side had the complete wrong set-up, who knows! At least it was a sunny day with no crashes! (IIRC...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANSE Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 Also KURTZ,SIMOTA and Perks being very poor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 I really hope we are not going down the road of preparing a track simply to unsettle the opposition , rather than prepare a fair track to give the crowd value for money . Last week against Newcastle was a joy to behold , this week not so much , though the racing improved after the numerous gradings . We had a deep track when Peterborough were up , obviously cause Danes like it slick , and we had a very iffy looking track for the Sheffield league cup semi final last season . We have one of the better looking sides in the division , lets not concern ourselves too much with the opposition , give the lads wearing the stripes and the crowd turning out to support them , a track that suits everybody . Riders can attack it with confidence and fans get their money's worth . 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damosuzuki Posted June 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 +1 it looked to me like Barker liked it deep and on a couple of previous occasions it was set up to let them fly round the fence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 +1 it looked to me like Barker liked it deep and on a couple of previous occasions it was set up to let them fly round the fence. Grasstrackers like the deep stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 I really hope we are not going down the road of preparing a track simply to unsettle the opposition , rather than prepare a fair track to give the crowd value for money . Its very clear we are, a tactic we used to resort to during the 2000's when we had weaker teams and there was a sniff of an away win. Too often it backfired catching out our riders more so than the opposition. The season we asked Trent to step up to cover for the injured Parker springs to mind. The home boys should go in to their opening heat in full knowledge and agreement as to how the track has been set up, not as yesterday where they had a team meeting after four heats to discuss how the f**k they were going to ride it. The track is different one week to the next, this negates so called home track advantage and does nothing for the confidence of our lower order who IMO want to race rather than ride. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac101 Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 Can't see rene Bach liking grippy tracks like Sunday's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANSE Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 You can never please 7 riders how they want the track set up. As said by MD we dont want a home track advantage we should contact the away team ask them how they would like track conditions just like Newcastle did last Monday 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 You can never please 7 riders how they want the track set up. Fair point As said by MD we dont want a home track advantage we should contact the away team ask them how they would like track conditions just like Newcastle did last Monday Did you honestly get any enjoyment from yesterday? If home track advantage means what we got yesterday whats the point. Im still lost as to what we feared from Plymouth we had to do that to the track, like you said in a previous post Kurtz, Simota and Perks are poor. It must have taken days rather than hours to pack in. Maybe the team manager isnt so confident in his riders or he may be under pressure to win whatever the cost or there may be another reason we are not aware of. Whatever it is I cant go it like that much more. We will have to wait and see what Sunday brings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 Maybe tiggers are buying up all the shale supplies cos they can to prevent anyone else having any. A bit like celtic and midfielders. Both provide a crap spectator occasion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANSE Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 YOU TOOK YOUR TIME TO APPEAR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 Cos I'm on holiday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damosuzuki Posted June 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 Leith? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 Too much sunshine there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 You can never please 7 riders how they want the track set up. As said by MD we dont want a home track advantage we should contact the away team ask them how they would like track conditions just like Newcastle did last Monday You shouldn't please the riders anyway. As Paulco says its the fans you should be pleasing so prepare tracks to suit them. Racing track = good entertainment = more paying punters. Its not difficult. Besides which if you prepare a track to suit the fans its likely to be consistent. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solidmango Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 The track has been prepared as a 'grippy' track for almost every meeting this year. A grippy rather than slick track is more conducive to better racing. I've heard a number of times that the riders (Glasgow) want a grippy track and that's what they've been getting. The two meetings that we didn't have a grippy track was the Coventry and Peterborough meetings, both days there was torrential rain and the track staff should be commended for ensuring the meetings went ahead. IMO the issue of late has been the unusually warm weather and that is what has been causing the problem NOT the track being prepared to disadvantage the opposition, why would we do that when we are putting in some massive scores and averaging 55 ish points per meeting? I overheard Stewart Dickson on Sunday, when being questioned about the track, saying he would rather have a slick track on days like Sunday as it is a nightmare to manage a grippy track when it is so warm. It's very easy to come on here and be critical, especially when we don't do the job but maybe some people should look at the other factors that influence the track/racing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 The track has been prepared as a 'grippy' track for almost every meeting this year. A grippy rather than slick track is more conducive to better racing. I've heard a number of times that the riders (Glasgow) want a grippy track and that's what they've been getting. The two meetings that we didn't have a grippy track was the Coventry and Peterborough meetings, both days there was torrential rain and the track staff should be commended for ensuring the meetings went ahead. IMO the issue of late has been the unusually warm weather and that is what has been causing the problem NOT the track being prepared to disadvantage the opposition, why would we do that when we are putting in some massive scores and averaging 55 ish points per meeting? I overheard Stewart Dickson on Sunday, when being questioned about the track, saying he would rather have a slick track on days like Sunday as it is a nightmare to manage a grippy track when it is so warm. It's very easy to come on here and be critical, especially when we don't do the job but maybe some people should look at the other factors that influence the track/racing. Paying publics perrogative ultimately and if the racing on Sunday was to be the norm (thankfully it isn't) then i am pretty sure it would affect numbers nobody is saying we are track curators but even the most naive off us could see the track was far too deep for the conditions as it was being watered every 3 heats which makes it worse with it being so deep with dirt. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GS550 Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 (edited) Maybe tiggers are buying up all the shale supplies cos they can to prevent anyone else having any. Maybe planning for a harsh winter as a grit substitute to sell to Glasgow City Council, layering it on track also saves the Council storing it in one o' them giant igloo shacks. Edited June 7, 2016 by justere2cgoodspeedway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 i see over watering is now regarded as a grippey track Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solidmango Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 Paying publics perrogative ultimately and if the racing on Sunday was to be the norm (thankfully it isn't) then i am pretty sure it would affect numbers nobody is saying we are track curators but even the most naive off us could see the track was far too deep for the conditions as it was being watered every 3 heats which makes it worse with it being so deep with dirt. Did you read the paragraph above the section you chose to highlight? I'll post it again for clarification: I overheard Stewart Dickson on Sunday, when being questioned about the track, saying he would rather have a slick track on days like Sunday as it is a nightmare to manage a grippy track when it is so warm. In addition, how many days when it is 25deg and that level of humidity do you think we'll see again this year in Glasgow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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