zonkers Posted June 2, 2016 Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 (edited) Excuse me if this has already been discussed elsewhere, but I am back at speedway after an 18 month break - yay! At the Panthers v Witches meeting on bank holiday Monday there was mention of the new rule where riders are not allowed to go onto the centre green any more? Did I hear that correctly? Is this under any circumstances, or just to stop them short-cutting when under a 2 minute warning? Edited June 2, 2016 by zonkers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzafl Posted June 2, 2016 Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 i am prepared to be corrected.. but i think its due to health and safety.. as people are on the centre green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted June 2, 2016 Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 Remember when Trevor Geer, during a second half race at Oxford, lost control and ended up taking out a marshal on the centre green. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted June 2, 2016 Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 Remember when Trevor Geer, during a second half race at Oxford, lost control and ended up taking out a marshal on the centre green. That sort of thing was scorned upon in those days,but as long as they both enjoyed themselves then I don't see a problem.More recently one or two riders have lost control and got into trouble with the police 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano Posted June 2, 2016 Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 I don't know how recent the rule is, but I'm sure I've seen riders cross the centre green this season at Perry Barr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted June 2, 2016 Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 That sort of thing was scorned upon in those days,but as long as they both enjoyed themselves then I don't see a problem.More recently one or two riders have lost control and got into trouble with the police I don't think that the marshall enjoyed the experience because, if I recall, he ended up with a broken leg! Poor old Trevor was very distressed by the event but wasn't to blame...it was just a racing accident when he lost control (I think that the starting gate got a clobbering as well!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted June 2, 2016 Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 I was at an ice racing meeting held at the Soederstadion in Stockholm when one rider's bike suddenly dug deep into the ice and propelled him straight onto the infield where he took out the meeting's promoter. I think it was an accident. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 Ok, the rule is new for this season, the rule is that riders are no longer allowed to "cut across" the centre green as a short cut to the tapes, or I would imagine, cutting across the centre green to get back to the pits or any other location on the track during the meeting.. It had been introduced to prevent injury to track staff, medics, presenters, VIPS, or any other people who might be on the centre green during racing. It also will prevent riders getting tangled up in spare tapes, audio/visual cables, track tools such as rakes/flags/gates/etc... The 2 minute rule has also been modified to take the above into account as well...... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 It's actually a surprisingly sensible and seemingly soundly worded change. The only issue is if the refs don't implement the two minute rule correctly, for example masters the other week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 A rider last monday was excluded at Scunthorpe for cutting across centre green to go to tapes. Seems a very sensible rule to me but Mr godferrt wasn't to happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers89 Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 It's happened a few times already this season yet managers seemed to be surprised by it when it happens to there riders? I think it's sensible, amount of time riders leave it too late to come out then dart across centre it's poor time management. Also most of the time they have 30 seconds to go, what you doing, 2 laps? Most time half a lap at most! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonkers Posted June 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 Ok, the rule is new for this season, the rule is that riders are no longer allowed to "cut across" the centre green as a short cut to the tapes, or I would imagine, cutting across the centre green to get back to the pits or any other location on the track during the meeting.. It had been introduced to prevent injury to track staff, medics, presenters, VIPS, or any other people who might be on the centre green during racing. It also will prevent riders getting tangled up in spare tapes, audio/visual cables, track tools such as rakes/flags/gates/etc... The 2 minute rule has also been modified to take the above into account as well...... Thank you. Does the rule also mean that if a bike packs up they are not allowed to park up on the centre green until the end of the race? I noticed twice they didn't on Monday - instead opting to sit just inside the white line, which is not ideal ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 Thank you. Does the rule also mean that if a bike packs up they are not allowed to park up on the centre green until the end of the race? I noticed twice they didn't on Monday - instead opting to sit just inside the white line, which is not ideal ! "No motorcycle may be ridden on the infield" is the phrase used. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 "No motorcycle may be ridden on the infield" is the phrase used. If retiring from a race, parking up on the centre green is allowed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 Have seen a few riders when the bikes pack up or the rider is having issues with the bike pull out of the race and ride, slowly, across the grass to park up near the pit gate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 (edited) Have seen a few riders when the bikes pack up or the rider is having issues with the bike pull out of the race and ride, slowly, across the grass to park up near the pit gate Sounds sensible to me. Rather than remain on the track far better that the bike be removed to the relative safety of the centre green (as was always the case) than leave it parked somewhere on the track. Like any legislation common sense needs to prevail. Edited June 4, 2016 by steve roberts 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Potter 2 Posted June 26, 2016 Report Share Posted June 26, 2016 Ok, the rule is new for this season, the rule is that riders are no longer allowed to "cut across" the centre green as a short cut to the tapes, or I would imagine, cutting across the centre green to get back to the pits or any other location on the track during the meeting.. It had been introduced to prevent injury to track staff, medics, presenters, VIPS, or any other people who might be on the centre green during racing. It also will prevent riders getting tangled up in spare tapes, audio/visual cables, track tools such as rakes/flags/gates/etc... The 2 minute rule has also been modified to take the above into account as well...... At Stoke last night Lee Payne went clockwise round the track before the start of a race & went onto the centre green to get around the tapes. Margaret Vardy excluded him, but then let him go of 15mts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted June 26, 2016 Report Share Posted June 26, 2016 At Stoke last night Lee Payne went clockwise round the track before the start of a race & went onto the centre green to get around the tapes. Margaret Vardy excluded him, but then let him go of 15mts. There isn't a specified penalty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted June 26, 2016 Report Share Posted June 26, 2016 At Stoke last night Lee Payne went clockwise round the track before the start of a race & went onto the centre green to get around the tapes. Margaret Vardy excluded him, but then let him go of 15mts. Vardy terrific referee . as long as your face fits , been behind most of the worst refereeeing and idiotic decisions ever in speedway . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted June 27, 2016 Report Share Posted June 27, 2016 She didn't change her mind. She was correct. Payne went clockwise and found himself on the wrong side of the tapes with the two minutes fast running out. If he'd started heading anti-clockwise he'd have been OK as he was on the track heading towards the gate in the direction of racing. But he chose to ride around the starting gate, which is technically riding on the centre green, and was rightly disqualified. He could have gone under the tapes, or over them as well... No offences committed in those routes.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.