Gresham Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 ...and of course Peter Collins' sensational exit from the World Championship when it was claimed that a substance (sugar?) had been added to his fuel causing him to pull up on a couple of occasions during said same meeting. Wasn't that at Coventry and the accusation pointed at a member of the pit staff there? I remember Nigel Boocock talking about it in my presence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPNY Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 Winner still get the Cardiff Wild Card this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 Aye, yesterday was always better than today in everything. Nonsense. I personally think that the British Finals that were raced at Brandon on a Sunday afternoon in the 1980's and early 1990's were some of the most hotly contested meetings I can remember!! Remember being at Brandon, and it almost bursting to the seams it was chocker block full...! The Collins brothers, Andy Smith, Wiggy, the Grahames, fantastic racing, no inch given... I'll dig out a programme, and a corresponding video and re-watch, just to make sure it's as I remember!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 (edited) I personally think that the British Finals that were raced at Brandon on a Sunday afternoon in the 1980's and early 1990's were some of the most hotly contested meetings I can remember!! Remember being at Brandon, and it almost bursting to the seams it was chocker block full...! The Collins brothers, Andy Smith, Wiggy, the Grahames, fantastic racing, no inch given... I'll dig out a programme, and a corresponding video and re-watch, just to make sure it's as I remember!! Yes they were very competitive meetings. I went to many and they were always keenly contested. I have on DVD the 1974 British Final and the line up would have done any World Final justice as they also included the Aussies and Kiwis in the line up! Remember watching highlights of the 1975 Final on, I believe, BBC (Sportsnight), later the same Wednesday evening (?) which is of course when the earlier Finals were held before moving to Sundays. Edited June 1, 2016 by steve roberts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 1975 BF i went Wilson beat Ashby in a run/off for the last qualifying position the best Final i have seen.Just thinking about it didn't Keith White qualify from it one year 1977 which then was a bit of a shock at the time. Keith White was one of those riders who peaked at an early age. He was only 21 when he had his best year in 77, running an 8+ average. As you say he made it through the British final, quite comfortably with 10 points, and when everyone thought he would push-on in 78 he just dropped down to a 4-5 point second string/reserve for the next five or six years before dropping to the NL. I personally think that the British Finals that were raced at Brandon on a Sunday afternoon in the 1980's and early 1990's were some of the most hotly contested meetings I can remember!! Remember being at Brandon, and it almost bursting to the seams it was chocker block full...! The Collins brothers, Andy Smith, Wiggy, the Grahames, fantastic racing, no inch given... I'll dig out a programme, and a corresponding video and re-watch, just to make sure it's as I remember!! I used to love those times too. The racing was full-blooded with Commonwealth Final places up for grabs! Every rider in the line-up seemed to be an established number one or two for their team. With a few exceptions, recent British Final line-ups remind me of those 'Stars of Tomorrow' meetings we used to have. I guess it's just a sign of the times. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 (edited) I personally think that the British Finals that were raced at Brandon on a Sunday afternoon in the 1980's and early 1990's were some of the most hotly contested meetings I can remember!! Remember being at Brandon, and it almost bursting to the seams it was chocker block full...! The Collins brothers, Andy Smith, Wiggy, the Grahames, fantastic racing, no inch given... I'll dig out a programme, and a corresponding video and re-watch, just to make sure it's as I remember!! FOR many years, cannot remember quite when, they were held on a Wednesday, Derby Day. At that time all the national newspapers had representatives at Brandon but there were no telephone facilities available. The CO arranged for each of the houses alongside the stadium to be allocated to a newspaper and arranged for them to use their private telephone. Trouble was that we had to send 'running' reports every few heats which meant going outside the stadium to the house and missing some of the racing. Hardly ideal. Oh for mobile phones or internet access with a computer. Some of today's journos don't know how lucky they are! Winner still get the Cardiff Wild Card this year? NOT sure ... Edited June 1, 2016 by PHILIPRISING 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPNY Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 Are we suggesting if Lambert wins it then yes if not Robert Lambert is the wild card for Cardiff?!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 RPNYC Where has Philip suggested either senario's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Flag Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 They have always built it up as the wild card for Cardiff except for when they wanted to make sure Bomber got it one year so guess they keeping options open Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 (edited) From the SRs for the meeting, published today; Qualification: the winner shall be the British Champion with the winner also being nominated as the Wild Card for the British Speedway Grand Prix (NB. if the winner is already an SGP rider then the highest placed non GP rider will take the place). Edited June 1, 2016 by Alan Jones 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy jimmy Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 I think this will be some event, it was always good at Wolverhamptom but there seemed to be too many crashes, especially on the 1st bend. This will be well worth watching at the new stadium 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Science Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 The British Final is regularly excellent…. has been since the 80’s it didn’t become crap because of the year it is raced. This year will probably be no different "cut and thrust" and "race offs" and even at some stage will be referred to as "the good old days". FWIW I actually think Woffindens nonattendance will raise the standard rather than lower it. I think it means just about every rider there will fancy themselves whereas they possibly haven’t been able to get in that mind-set before due to the subconscious of knowing they are in a meeting with one of the best British riders ever, we are lucky to be able to watch riders like him now. Correct , We are lucky to be able to watch riders of Woffinden's standard, just not at the British Final Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPNY Posted June 2, 2016 Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 RPNYC Where has Philip suggested either senario's. He hasn't I'm just putting 2 and 2 together.. Probably getting 5! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted June 2, 2016 Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 Out of the 16 riders in the field, 9 of them are either Coventry or Belle Vue riders! 👍🏻 Coventry 5, Belle Vue 4, Leicester 2, King's Lynn 1, Lakeside 1, Wolves 1, Swindon 0, Poole 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topsoil Posted June 2, 2016 Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 Out of the 16 riders in the field, 9 of them are either Coventry or Belle Vue riders! Coventry 5, Belle Vue 4, Leicester 2, King's Lynn 1, Lakeside 1, Wolves 1, Swindon 0, Poole 0 Not surprising when you consider that the only British riders at Wolves, Swindon and Poole are EDR riders. Mind you, the same applies to Leicester and both of them qualified. Good on Coventry and Belle Vue for basing their teams around British riders. Looking forward to this meeting, mainly because of the videos I've seen so far of racing at the new track. Should make for a good meeting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 (edited) Nicholls cook lambert Harris. Can't help but feel the "final" system counts against poor gaters . Worrell and garritty to be in the top 6. Shame Bridger isn't in the line up, he potentially could have been in the mix. For those top four, possibly this meeting determines which three join tai in the swc line up? Aces fan but would quite like to see lambert earn the Cardiff wild card spot Edited June 3, 2016 by waihekeaces1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 Nicholls cook lambert Harris. Can't help but feel the "final" system counts against poor gaters . Worrell and garritty to be in the top 6. Shame Bridger isn't in the line up, he potentially could have been in the mix. For those top four, possibly this meeting determines which three join tai in the swc line up? Aces fan but would quite like to see lambert earn the Cardiff wild card spot What on earth does "Can't help but feel the "final" system counts against poor gaters" mean? Poor gaters suffer in every system surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 What on earth does "Can't help but feel the "final" system counts against poor gaters" mean? Poor gaters suffer in every system surely? I get the feeling it won't on this track. Lots of positives about the ability to have good racing and passing on it. If a rider then can't gate or pass, they don't deserve to make the final. Looking forward to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baba Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 I've never been so excited about a british final in years. Finally the riders have the track to race on and it will have plenty of space at the first bend so we should be in for a treat. Nicholls Cook Lambert Lawson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 What on earth does "Can't help but feel the "final" system counts against poor gaters" mean? Poor gaters suffer in every system surely? What I mean is over 20 heats, if u miss the gate you are normally up against only one other title contender and have a better chance of coming from the back to the front.In the one race to decide the title though, the chances of coming past three top riders is pretty low. I have zero stats to back this theory up though! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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