erniew Posted May 29, 2016 Report Share Posted May 29, 2016 Just seen at the Glasgow - Newcastle meeting, Richie Worrall went through the tapes in heat 15 and instead of going off 15m or being replaced by a reserve he was replaced by Aaron Summers, a heat leader! Have they changed the rules? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted May 29, 2016 Report Share Posted May 29, 2016 I believe they have to be replaced by another rider eligible for Heat 15. i.e. a heat leader or one of the top 3 scorers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erniew Posted May 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2016 Great! so you don't get penalised for a tapes infringement. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted May 29, 2016 Report Share Posted May 29, 2016 In the recent Berwick v Newcastle meeting, Berwick`s Theo Pyjper was excluded for tape touching in Ht15, on this occasion Berwick were forced to use Pyjper off 15m, I`d love to know the reason why Glasgow were allowed to use Summers and Berwick weren't allowed to replace Pyjper. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted May 29, 2016 Report Share Posted May 29, 2016 On 5/29/2016 at 5:12 PM, screm said: In the recent Berwick v Newcastle meeting, Berwick`s Theo Pyjper was excluded for tape touching in Ht15, on this occasion Berwick were forced to use Pyjper off 15m, I`d love to know the reason why Glasgow were allowed to use Summers and Berwick weren't allowed to replace Pyjper. Because Berwick didn't know the rules? Alex Davies hit tapes and replaced by Stefan Nielsen at Scunthorpe last week. All the best Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted May 29, 2016 Report Share Posted May 29, 2016 (edited) On 5/29/2016 at 5:06 PM, BWitcher said: I believe they have to be replaced by another rider eligible for Heat 15. i.e. a heat leader or one of the top 3 scorers? Is this a new rule? Edited May 29, 2016 by eric i Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted May 29, 2016 Report Share Posted May 29, 2016 On 5/29/2016 at 5:26 PM, lucifer sam said: Because Berwick didn't know the rules? Alex Davies hit tapes and replaced by Stefan Nielsen at Scunthorpe last week. All the best Rob Berwick`s team manager argued that Berwick shouldve been allowed to replace Pyjper, the referee ruled they couldn't and had to use Pyjper off 15m, Berwick did know the rules it appears the on night referee didn't. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted May 29, 2016 Report Share Posted May 29, 2016 James Sarjeant touched the tapes at Foxhall v Sheffield and went off 15m even though Risager or a reserve should have replaced him. No comment from Witches as to why they got it wrong! (Rule is 15.14.3) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted May 29, 2016 Report Share Posted May 29, 2016 Rules say replaced by another eligible rider. Not reserves and not 15 metres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted May 29, 2016 Report Share Posted May 29, 2016 On 5/29/2016 at 6:54 PM, SCB said: Rules say replaced by another eligible rider. Not reserves and not 15 metres. Reserve replacement is allowed according to rulebook. All the best Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted May 29, 2016 Report Share Posted May 29, 2016 (edited) I seems nobody knows the rules all round. Refere'es Team Manage'rs Promote'rs Supporte'rs Even the rule book doesn't know what it's own rules are 2016 is a fook up all round Edited May 29, 2016 by Danny Smith 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted May 29, 2016 Report Share Posted May 29, 2016 On 5/29/2016 at 6:58 PM, Danny Smith said: I seems nobody knows the rules all round. Referee's Team Manager's Promoter's Supporter's Even the rule book doesn't know what it's own rules are 2016 is a fook up all round The rulebook is actually quite clear on this occasion. All the best Rob PS I'm glad you don't write the rulebook - all those misplaced apostrophes would drive me mental Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted May 29, 2016 Report Share Posted May 29, 2016 On 5/29/2016 at 7:02 PM, lucifer sam said: The rulebook is actually quite clear on this occasion. All the best Rob PS I'm glad you don't write the rulebook - all those misplaced apostrophes would drive me mental Sorry, I'll correct the original post 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted May 29, 2016 Report Share Posted May 29, 2016 On 5/29/2016 at 7:05 PM, Danny Smith said: Sorry, I'll correct the original post Er, that's better All the best Rob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted May 29, 2016 Report Share Posted May 29, 2016 On 5/29/2016 at 7:02 PM, lucifer sam said: The rulebook is actually quite clear on this occasion. All the best Rob PS I'm glad you don't write the rulebook - all those misplaced apostrophes would drive me mental IMO lack of proper punctuation in the rule book is the least of our worries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted May 29, 2016 Report Share Posted May 29, 2016 On 5/29/2016 at 7:13 PM, screm said: IMO lack of proper punctuation in the rule book is the least of our worries. On the contrary, SCB and I once had a 5-page discussion caused by a badly placed comma and how it possibly changed the interpretation of a certain rule All the best Rob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted May 29, 2016 Report Share Posted May 29, 2016 so in a tactical (cynical) point of view, if a rider needs more time to be ready for heat 15, nominate someone else to go out and break the tapes, and then get put in as replacement 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted May 29, 2016 Report Share Posted May 29, 2016 On 5/29/2016 at 6:54 PM, SCB said: Rules say replaced by another eligible rider. Not reserves and not 15 metres. Changed for this year Reserves or another eligible rider In the right circumstances that could be anyone else, doesn't make a lot of sense but then that's our rulebook 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSC67 Posted May 29, 2016 Report Share Posted May 29, 2016 On 5/29/2016 at 7:48 PM, stevehone said: so in a tactical (cynical) point of view, if a rider needs more time to be ready for heat 15, nominate someone else to go out and break the tapes, and then get put in as replacement That's why in my opinion it should only be a reserve who's allowed as a replacement 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted May 29, 2016 Report Share Posted May 29, 2016 Another stupid rule change by the BSPA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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