Starman2006 Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 And a suitcase full of fifty pound notes to pay for it all No sure where the majority of EL clubs are going to find them from... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Science Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 (edited) No sure where the majority of EL clubs are going to find them from...Any sport needs 3 things to be successful 1. A good TV deal,that increases at every renewal 2 Extensive sponsorship 3 Healthy attendances of mostly full paying adults Naught out of three for speedway at present Edited May 24, 2016 by New Science Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 is there any reason there cant be a highlights show? apologises if someone already explained this......or filming a match and saving it canned until there a rain off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 Doesn't someone on here work for sky sports? Flagrag i think Not everything has to have a link. There is life outside the internet. Of course there has to be a link if you are dealing with a professional sport and news releases. Otherwise the life outside the sport you allude to involves gossip and hearsay which without an official announcement is just that. So in other words what the person standing next to you on the terraces says suddenly becomes fact in both you're eyes then? Surely if Sky Sports or the BSPA had made such an effort to get Tai racing in the EL then they would have made a bigger deal of it??? So speculation until proven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topsoil Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 Just a few thoughts after reading the threads above 1) Life in Sweden and Poland is not as rosy as it seems, a lot of clubs lose heavily each season and have to be bailed out by local authorities. Chances of that ever happening in Britain? 2) I've often thought that Sky meetings should be free admission, try and get meetings sponsored to meet the costs, get as many people in the stadiums as possible, looks good for the cameras, sponsor gets maximum exposure. 3) The Elite League (and other leagues would be nice) needs a sponsor. 4) In it's current state I can't imagine any club wishing to leave the Premier League to move up to the Elite league, unless you have an owner willing to lose a lot of money, or the club have serious sponsorship backing. In any other sport, the aim is to get to the highest league possible because a) the TV revenue is greater attendances will be increased or sponsorship or corporate income will increase or c) there is some other sort of financial reward. That doesn't seem to be the case in speedway. There is no incentive to want to compete in the highest league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 Of course there has to be a link if you are dealing with a professional sport and news releases. Otherwise the life outside the sport you allude to involves gossip and hearsay which without an official announcement is just that. So in other words what the person standing next to you on the terraces says suddenly becomes fact in both you're eyes then? Surely if Sky Sports or the BSPA had made such an effort to get Tai racing in the EL then they would have made a bigger deal of it??? So speculation until proven. Ask Phil Rising or Flagrag about it and you may get an answer or link to sky & the bspa offering tai a mega deal to tempt him to ride here so he could promote the sport as a British world champion but he wasn't interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 Do you really want a season of seven home matches plus maybe one or two in the playoffs? The crowd levels over there have nothing to do with single nights. Swedish crowds my be large by British standards but only tend to be 2-4,000. Poland has a very long history of large crowds, going back way into the communist era. Most towns staging speedway in both countries do tend to benefit from being in relatively small places where seven big events a year are probably rather significant. Did anyone see the photos on FB earlier with Nicki P and his brolly, absolutely lobbing it down, pits, track flooded, still lobbing it down, but blue sky in horizon, he said ******** are fixing the track shortly.. Well firstly, I think it was in Sweden, were these photos of the here and now? And did they then race? If they did, then why, why, do the buggers fein and go all "it's too wet" to race over here?? (NP) obviously doesn't race here, but I bet one or two of the other 13 do...!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 Ask Phil Rising or Flagrag about it and you may get an answer or link to sky & the bspa offering tai a mega deal to tempt him to ride here so he could promote the sport as a British world champion but he wasn't interested. Don't need to ask , if there had been any truth in it it would have made a story. I'm sure if it has any truth in it one of them will confirm your 'story'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 Don't need to ask , if there had been any truth in it it would have made a story. I'm sure if it has any truth in it one of them will confirm your 'story'. I saw the postings on this subject, written indeed by flagrag, I thinks it's in the "should Tai ride for team GB" thread, just confirming it did/does exist... If I remember it was a joint deal with Sky/BSPA + he chose which EL club to ride for, and he would also receive the clubs deal as well as the Sky/BSPA package.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 I saw the postings on this subject, written indeed by flagrag, I thinks it's in the "should Tai ride for team GB" thread, just confirming it did/does exist... If I remember it was a joint deal with Sky/BSPA + he chose which EL club to ride for, and he would also receive the clubs deal as well as the Sky/BSPA package.... Not something I've seen personally. No doubt if it proved true the relevant people will update info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 I saw the postings on this subject, written indeed by flagrag, I thinks it's in the "should Tai ride for team GB" thread, just confirming it did/does exist... If I remember it was a joint deal with Sky/BSPA + he chose which EL club to ride for, and he would also receive the clubs deal as well as the Sky/BSPA package.... Yes that's right SS and I think Phil Rising mentioned it too. Whatever I say stevebrum will disagree and then his mates will back him up. Tai Was offered an amazing deal Fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 Yes that's right SS and I think Phil Rising mentioned it too. Whatever I say stevebrum will disagree and then his mates will back him up. Tai Was offered an amazing deal Fact. Stop being so paranoid. YOU didn't claim you said it did you?? You said that others had mentioned it. I don't need any backing up. I asked a simple question if their was a link to the supposed 'deal'. I've already said Im sure the relevant people will confirm said story if correct. Stop making it all about you for a change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted May 25, 2016 Report Share Posted May 25, 2016 Perhaps you should attend the BSPA meeting in November. THEY wouldn't ;let me in! Any sport needs 3 things to be successful 1. A good TV deal,that increases at every renewal 2 Extensive sponsorship 3 Healthy attendances of mostly full paying adults Naught out of three for speedway at present THINK British speedway is lucky to have the TV deal it has. Plenty of other minority sports, and that is what speedway is this country is sadly, would love to have the money Sky hand over. I have no idea whether Tai was offered any inducement by Sky or the BSPA as World Champion to race here. However, I can recall that years ago, certainly in the Ivan Mauger era, the World Champion was paid an additional fee, think it was £500, when he appeared at a British track. That added up to a tidy sum in those days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Lion Posted May 25, 2016 Report Share Posted May 25, 2016 Of course there has to be a link if you are dealing with a professional sport and news releases. Otherwise the life outside the sport you allude to involves gossip and hearsay which without an official announcement is just that. So in other words what the person standing next to you on the terraces says suddenly becomes fact in both you're eyes then? Surely if Sky Sports or the BSPA had made such an effort to get Tai racing in the EL then they would have made a bigger deal of it??? So speculation until proven. It's incredibly naïve to disregard something just because there's no reference to it on the internet, and equally naïve to believe it just because there is. There doesn't have to be a link to everything that's true, neither does the absence of a link mean something is untrue. There is life outside the internet; it would do us all good to get off the computer/phone/tablet for a while and enjoy it. (It's "your", not "you're" btw) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted May 25, 2016 Report Share Posted May 25, 2016 It's incredibly naïve to disregard something just because there's no reference to it on the internet, and equally naïve to believe it just because there is. There doesn't have to be a link to everything that's true, neither does the absence of a link mean something is untrue. There is life outside the internet; it would do us all good to get off the computer/phone/tablet for a while and enjoy it. (It's "your", not "you're" btw)7 Thanks for the advice, however I am off the Internet on a regular basis coaching kids 3 times a week, taking part in competitions most weekends and also having a go at sliding my own bike as often as I can. Some who live a life on the Internet maybe indeed extremely naive, and have nothing better to do than correct others spelling mistakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagonshocker Posted May 25, 2016 Report Share Posted May 25, 2016 Now firstly i will get the apology out of the way, sorry for mentioning W******ns name again but all this talk of Sky/BSPA offering some sort of deal to him to help promote the sport over here is all well and good but EL tracks generally are not very proactive anyway promoting there product so even if W******n was say for example riding for Wolves at Swindon next week just how many extra would that put through the gate? It's not as if he was really that brilliant anywhere over here anyway what would the plan be to do an Egon muller and do a song and dance routine at the interval? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dornier Posted May 25, 2016 Report Share Posted May 25, 2016 (edited) I saw the postings on this subject, written indeed by flagrag, I thinks it's in the "should Tai ride for team GB" thread, just confirming it did/does exist... If I remember it was a joint deal with Sky/BSPA + he chose which EL club to ride for, and he would also receive the clubs deal as well as the Sky/BSPA package....Plus it went with the blessing of CVS that he could ride at another team of Woffys choice Edited May 25, 2016 by dornier 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4gillian Posted May 25, 2016 Report Share Posted May 25, 2016 Plus it went with the blessing of CVS that he could ride at another team of Woffys choice As stevebrum says it was just a post by a forum poster...doesn't mean it actually took place. I, like you, could post all sorts of 'stories' on here but it doesn't mean they're all true. PLEASE NOTE: I'm not having a pop at you Flagrag, just making a point p.s. I'm beginning to think that robert72 has a bit of a man crush on Tai, your obsessed fella! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted May 25, 2016 Report Share Posted May 25, 2016 As stevebrum says it was just a post by a forum poster...doesn't mean it actually took place. I, like you, could post all sorts of 'stories' on here but it doesn't mean they're all true. PLEASE NOTE: I'm not having a pop at you Flagrag, just making a point p.s. I'm beginning to think that robert72 has a bit of a man crush on Tai, your obsessed fella! I'm sure some posters on here are in the know and are likely to be a more credible source of information. I'm taking nothing away from that. However a post on a forum for thoughts and gossip is hardly the place to post IMHO. I'd be more inclined to believe an official release of information personally. Let's face it there are a few 'in the know ' that could step in to confirm any stories right here right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dornier Posted May 25, 2016 Report Share Posted May 25, 2016 As stevebrum says it was just a post by a forum poster...doesn't mean it actually took place. I, like you, could post all sorts of 'stories' on here but it doesn't mean they're all true. PLEASE NOTE: I'm not having a pop at you Flagrag, just making a point p.s. I'm beginning to think that robert72 has a bit of a man crush on Tai, your obsessed fella! Why would Flagrag make a story up like that, to me it sounds highly likely it happened. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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