Ben91 Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 Newcomers shouldn't be penalised due to age, an experience limit would work well however. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 We're seeing the old third division conflict of interests here - those running sides purely to bring on youngsters, normally second teams, but not all, and the 'stand-alone' tracks with no higher level to cross-subsidise them needing an attractive team to survive. Â Birmingham actually seem to have achieved both this year with a very praiseworthy, youthful and winning team. You can't criticise them for seeking to maintain their success both on-track and on-terrace. We've seen what can go wrong at Birmingham and while they must run within the rules saddling Hall with a ridiculously out of date average is clearly a blocking tactic that could threaten their progress. Â The highly-professional team at BBC WM were pretty clear in their disgust at the decision last night, although they can be forgiven for a touch of local bias. Â No matter what the technicalities the reality is that Eastbourne were allowed to sign Eliis, now a well-deserved finalist in the World under-21 Championship. That makes the effective, if not formal, blocking of Hall quite ridiculous. I take it it's the same guy making these decisions that was involved years back when my friends and colleagues relaunched Rye House? If so that would explain the latest questionable decision. Â Birmingham are running a young team, exactly in line with the NL ethic. They've hit a problem and want to sign an eligible experienced rider far younger than some other riders in the league in order to maintain that success. Â I do wonder though if Birmingham are outgrowing the NL. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katew1988 Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 I think we're all forgetting how Richard hall raced 10years ago....he was at his prime and like someone has already said 2006 for the panthers he was like wonder boy! Â The development league should also be for these riders who lost their way and need to find that way and confidence again and the fact he's young and British yes he could be an amazing asset. Look at Scott Nicholls he doesn't always have the best meets but he's British everyone supports him. Richard lives and breaths speedway o and he's a world champion in longtrack but not much recognition for that! All he wants is a decent ride.. provide for his growing family and do his best! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 Hall is just another money grabbing rider,anything for a fast buck, moaning about his financial outlay as though the sport owes him a living when in the last few years he has been more interested Long Track.like Buster says these teams offering riders like Hall money should be moving up aLeague as they are clearly not interested in young riders if it means losing,which is to what not the NLis meant to be about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baba Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 Fromafar looks like you have a axe to grind with Mr Hall. So he should be denied riding? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 Fromafar looks like you have a axe to grind with Mr Hall. So he should be denied riding?Just my opinion,no axe to grind with Hall although I don't think he is wanting to help them for the good of his health and I pretty sure he would not have been turning up for expenses and £5 a point which was mooted when the league was formed.The league was formed to help encourage new young riders into the sport not to subsidise older riders on the way down.The sport has lost its way and now teams in NL have to win at all costs and make money and certainly some Teams are pay riders silly money in relation to their talent .Teams like Birmingham,Cradley & Eastbourne should be in Pl like Buster states in SS this week.I admit I an very disillusioned and sad to to a great sport being run into the ground and don't see much light at the end of the tunnel.The promoters have to stop paying out money that the don't have.It is obvious that some clubs have people in the background "helping" them out financially ,and speedway fans are very generous when asked to "save the club" by putting their hands in their pocket,but that is not a good situation to be in IMO . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddy2706 Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 (edited) In my opinion, it is difficult to improve at anything unless you practice long and hard and in any form of competition you need someone better than you to form a benchmark. Â Jon Armstrong and Tony Atkin are excellent examples of older riders mentoring, advising and helping to improve younger riders, why Richard Hall cannot assume such a role is beyond me? Â Aspiring to beat someone better and more experienced can only be good and many people like the idea of young NL heat leaders becoming automatic choices for PL team reserve berths. Â If Richard Hall was leading from the front in NL, (and that actually remains to be seen!) younger riders like the Piddletown Express, Ashley Morris, Robert Branford and Ben Morley et al would immediately make it their business to try to humble him, what is wrong with that? Â If Ben Wilson can have a hinged door between PL and NL, I cannot see why Richard Hall cannot? Â We hear the persistent drip drip snivelling from NL managers and promoters that there are not enough riders available for their teams, yet Richard Hall is unemployed, British and highly experienced. What on earth is going on at the British Stuffedshirt Promoters Association? Â Introduce rider control again and send him to Buxton! Edited June 14, 2016 by oldsparky 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*JJ Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Hall could go to Buxton if he wanted. His move was blocked in order to shaft Birmingham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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