B.V 72 Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 (edited) From a Belle vue point of view keep the track as it is most of our riders seemed to love it. Edited May 24, 2016 by B.V 72 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 It's called 'a clueless track man'. If its Gerard Richter (and I think it is) he's anything but clueless. Word I got was that it needed ripping up and completely relaying about 3 years ago but it simply hasn't been done and now he can't do anything with it all. Down to Matt Ford, it seems. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 (edited) Obsession? Most of the Poole fans on here came on and congratulated Belle Vue and moaned about the track. Starman bangs on and on about how wonderful the Poole track is so i was hoping for his views? I was hoping for his views on how poor and uninterested Holder was. His views on Kurtz continually overriding. With regards to Newman ive recently had a Poole fan banging on how he should be seeded to the British Final as he could possibly win it!! Newman in my eyes isnt as good as Garrity or Worrall and he looked very poor last night But anyone sane wouldn't want Starman to comment, enjoy the peace while it lasts!! Regarding Newman you do seem to put him up against other riders a lot and continue to say he isn't much good or implying it Imo. I haven't seen a Poole fan that said that he should be seeded though, so just going on what you said Anyone who missed it - or wants to see Poole lose at home again have a look here http://www.speedway-forum.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=81405No thanks!!! Once is enoughIt's an on going problem at Poole with their rich promotion not getting to grips with it, yeah if it's potentially dangerous I wouldn't expect 100%. And come on, Holder knows every inch of that track, he has been great over the years, he's clearly peed off about his track ...His track?? Well if Chris owns it, he better sort it out then!! So after a later than usual night at Wimborne Road (enjoying the sponsor's hospitality) and a bit of a lie-in this morning, I thought I'd check on the thread and see if I would be surprised at (m)any of the posts?! The quick answer to that - is NO. Well done to Belle Vue - I personally congratulated Mark Lemon and Scotty at the end (I sponsored both when they rode for Poole) - much the better side on the night. It'll be interesting to see how S.Worrall (Sponsor's Rider of the Night!!) fares when he's in the 1-5 in June - yes I know he beat some decent riders last night too!! As for the track, it does need to be re-bladed to get rid of 'the waves' - whether it will be tackled in June remains to be seen!!?. Other than that and the overwatering (which was understandable after a day of sunshine and no rain!!!) I don't think there was too much wrong with the track prep. The 4th bend falls by Hans and Bjarne were caused as much by them taking the wide line into the wet heavy stuff, when they are both traditionally white line riders. The new pairings didn't help the Poole team either, but hey ho the world hasn't ended just because Poole have been beaten at home for once - fairly and squarely too. Just a final word about Kyle Newman.......His first proper meeting back after his injury and clearly he has lost a bit of race fitness as well as being a little tentative. He'll be ok, as will the Pirates when they bounce back. In the meantime, the knack for Matt and Middlo will be to keep the team in 4th spot whilst seeing what changes the averages will allow come August. If they can do that, then that's 'Magic'!!! :-) :-) ps. I predicted 43-47 so wasn't far wrong!! And my fantasy team did very well too - thank you both teams!! Might be sponsors (Piratecast) but they get the Poole fans (or any other fans who areon twitter that sees it) to choose who gets it and they chose Stevie Worrall. Not so biased are we!!!! Edited May 24, 2016 by lisa-colette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 So after a later than usual night at Wimborne Road (enjoying the sponsor's hospitality) and a bit of a lie-in this morning, I thought I'd check on the thread and see if I would be surprised at (m)any of the posts?! The quick answer to that - is NO. Glad you enjoyed your sponsors' largesse. Shame about the ordinary people, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R87 Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 Lots of riders slating the state of the track on Twitter although they don't seem surprised so I assume it's never great. It was only a couple of weeks ago Thorssell was calling it dangerous. The track clearly needs a lot of work to rectify the problem soon before somebody comes away from there with a bad injury. Holder is clearly going through the motions, but good on him for speaking his mind about the track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERACE Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 Great win last night and a real boost to our season, just need to get dialled in at home now and we have a great chance of the title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4gillian Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 Well, well, well...the same old guff being regurgitated once again. Poole were well and truly beaten by a far better side on the night who wanted it more on a worse than usual woeful track. That's all that happened people. Back in the real world the EL isn't won or lost in May so one home loss is hardly anything to be concerned about. Well done Belle Vue 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 If its Gerard Richter (and I think it is) he's anything but clueless. Lakeside, hmm, another track most are less than complimentary about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPNY Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 Track seemed fine to me (a complete Neutral) Belle Vue boys handled it just fine. Holder as skipper should have dealt with it a lot better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 Track seemed fine to me (a complete Neutral) Belle Vue boys handled it just fine. Holder as skipper should have dealt with it a lot better. Pretty sure Hans is captain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daytripper Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 It's called 'a clueless track man'. You are the one that's clueless, making such an idiotic post without knowing what Gerald wanted to do ages ago and what he was not allowed to do by Matt Ford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 You are the one that's clueless, making such an idiotic post without knowing what Gerald wanted to do ages ago and what he was not allowed to do by Matt Ford. Why wasn't he allowed to do what he wanted to do? I thought they ripped the track up not that long ago to sort it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 I saw @jacobthorssell say that the track was crap a few weeks ago and got nothing but abuse from the Poole fans. Is the track still good or? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 I saw @jacobthorssell say that the track was crap a few weeks ago and got nothing but abuse from the Poole fans. Is the track still good or?I think Klindt put it better personally. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 You are the one that's clueless, making such an idiotic post without knowing what Gerald wanted to do ages ago and what he was not allowed to do by Matt Ford. Which was ? Track seemed fine to me (a complete Neutral) Belle Vue boys handled it just fine. Holder as skipper should have dealt with it a lot better. Hans is Captain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 Very entertaining meeting i thought, i like a rough track as it always sorts the men out from the boys... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 I understand what you are saying but seeing riders bounce around bends 3 & 4 was dangerous (Andersen & Pedersen). Also a couple of ruts on the inside. New Post: Well done to Hans, Bjarne, & JK last night. Those 3 riders tried their best knowing how difficult the conditions were. C Holder please can we just sack the bloke. Chris does not want to ride for Poole. MF really needs to come to a mutual agreement. Half a straight behind S Worrall in his own backyard sums it up. Luckily we signed Bjarne otherwise last night it would of been a hammering with Davey and Chris in the same team on that track. Luckily Craig Cook had a poor night... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coventry_Bee Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 I understand what you are saying but seeing riders bounce around bends 3 & 4 was dangerous (Andersen & Pedersen). Also a couple of ruts on the inside. New Post: Well done to Hans, Bjarne, & JK last night. Those 3 riders tried their best knowing how difficult the conditions were. C Holder please can we just sack the bloke. Chris does not want to ride for Poole. MF really needs to come to a mutual agreement. Half a straight behind S Worrall in his own backyard sums it up. Luckily we signed Bjarne otherwise last night it would of been a hammering with Davey and Chris in the same team on that track. Its funny how we all see things differently. Hans and Bjarne got themselves into situations they didn't have the ability to control the bike, Poor Pedersen's head was bouncing around all over the place so god knows what vision he had of the track. You want Chris Holder sacked !, this after Davey Watt. I think success has gone to people's heads down south !! Chris Holder who has had so many bad injuries on a track he wasn't happy with, he wasn't going to put himself where Hans and Bjarne did. He wanted to be in his own bed last night and not another hospital bed, Like it or not it's in his head about these injuries to him and Darcy and it wont go away. The bloke who has done so much for Poole speedway down the years, has had a nightmare 2/3 years and has fans like you calling for his head. Nice work 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 Of course as Poole fans we are disappointed that our team isn't performing well and Chris Holder isn't at his best for us but sacking him is way over the top. We need to get behind him and support him, he will come good and as long as we get in to the play offs he will show his best i am sure. A rider that i was unsure about before the season started and i still am is Brady Kurtz, i still think we would be better off with Kasper Gomolski. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daytripper Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 Why wasn't he allowed to do what he wanted to do? I thought they ripped the track up not that long ago to sort it out. I don't know why. I could be down to money. Even Matt Ford isn't made of money. What I do know is that major track work often can't be done for 5p. I don't know whether to laugh or cry when I read posts from the keyboard warriors who sit on front of their TV screens and think a bit of blading or something is going to sort a track out and the track man/promoter is too dim to realise it. I don't know if it is down to money or some other reason, but the reality of modern Speedwáy is that good quality shale doesn't come cheap and good tracks don't come easy. I don't know why Poole is in the condition it's in but I very much doubt whether it's a simple matter to resolve. I am not Matt Fords biggest fan but I doubt whether even he sets out to have a poor track, especially for a TV meeting with sponsors present. There might well be a significant reason for it. That said, it could be the best track in the world, and we would still have the usual suspects on here moaning about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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