Newcastle Diamonds Vs Redcar Bears League Cup 23rd May 7.30pm

[New era Panthers]

i agree

Would seem to be the fairest way then no one would complain, it seem hardly fair on the riders efforts to be judged on 3 rides and other meetings on 5 rides

[Pinny]

What is up with Bjerre? Just doesnt seem interested anymore, shame as he looked like being better than kenneth at one point

[JCookie]

Injuries catching up? His brother is hardly a confident rider himself.

[jackofdiamonds]

An expected poor display from Redcar who supplied just one heat winner, and that was not until heat 14 courtesy of Anderson. R/r for Skidmore produced 5 points, that was probably a bonus for the visitors. Even Simon Nielsen couldn't produce his Brough form, and looked very ordinary.

Newcastle had a points fest with Lambert getting the easiest maximum you could wish to see. Strangely, that was Newcastle's first of the season.

Victor Palovaara was steady and gained his first home win. Top for excitement was Lewis Rose, with a last bend pass of tac ride man Bellego being the highlight of the meeting. Lindgren would have remained unbeaten, but had one retirement. Kus had a couple of wins,and guest Robson enjoyed himself with a paid 10.Only was to miss out was Danny Phillips, although he got a big cheer when following home Palovaara for a 5-1 in heat 8.

[NJC71]

Next Monday will be a different ball game. Glasgow at home with no Lambert and perhaps even more significantly, no Lewis Rose. Lewis is completely irreplaceable on a 3.86 average given he's averaging double that at home. Liam Carr is probably our only option which will leave us very vulnerable if the Glasgow bottom 3 take to the track.

 

Don't understand why we are holding one of our biggest and toughest home matches of the season on an off race night without two such crucial riders.

Edited May 24, 2016 by NJC71

[ruffdiamond]

Next Monday will be a different ball game. Glasgow at home with no Lambert and perhaps even more significantly, no Lewis Rose. Lewis is completely irreplaceable on a 3.86 average given he's averaging double that at home. Liam Carr is probably our only option which will leave us very vulnerable if the Glasgow bottom 3 take to the track.

 

a think it was mentioned last night that we have Seb Alden and Arthur Sissis booked as guests, not 'Lambert or Rose', but Seb is good (if he gates), and Arthur, well, a dunno,,,

[Gazc]

I see we once gain have fixtures this weekend that clash with Belle Vue & King's Lynn.

 

No Steve Worrall at Edinburgh on Friday (what a place to be without Steve) and presumably no Lambert & Rose on Monday - assuming Steve can dash to Brough from Belle Vue.

 

Not good for 2 of our biggest matches of the season.

We were informed on Sunday the start time next Monday has been put back one hour to 7.30 to allow Richie & Steve time to get up to Brough.

[Positive Thinker]

I see we once gain have fixtures this weekend that clash with Belle Vue & King's Lynn.

 

No Steve Worrall at Edinburgh on Friday (what a place to be without Steve) and presumably no Lambert & Rose on Monday - assuming Steve can dash to Brough from Belle Vue.

 

Not good for 2 of our biggest matches of the season.

 

Berwick sources tell me Theo Pijper will ride for Newcastle on Friday, and as already suggested Sebastian Alden is your man on Monday.

[diamond@heart]

Next Monday will be a different ball game. Glasgow at home with no Lambert and perhaps even more significantly, no Lewis Rose. Lewis is completely irreplaceable on a 3.86 average given he's averaging double that at home. Liam Carr is probably our only option which will leave us very vulnerable if the Glasgow bottom 3 take to the track.

 

Don't understand why we are holding one of our biggest and toughest home matches of the season on an off race night without two such crucial riders.

 

I think I'll start my rain dance now.

[StevePark]

Next Monday will be a different ball game. Glasgow at home with no Lambert and perhaps even more significantly, no Lewis Rose. Lewis is completely irreplaceable on a 3.86 average given he's averaging double that at home. Liam Carr is probably our only option which will leave us very vulnerable if the Glasgow bottom 3 take to the track.

 

Don't understand why we are holding one of our biggest and toughest home matches of the season on an off race night without two such crucial riders.

Sadly, Liam Carr is currently out injured

 

a think it was mentioned last night that we have Seb Alden and Arthur Sissis booked as guests, not 'Lambert or Rose', but Seb is good (if he gates), and Arthur, well, a dunno,,,

 

Sissis got 5+1 for Sheffield in July last year (Sheffield won 41-48). He beat Lewis R, Bates and Simon N in heat 2. He beat Lewis R in heat 5 for a point. He beat Christian Henry for another point in heat 6. He failed to score behind Robbo, Lewis K and Anton Rosen in heat 9 and failed to beat the two mins in heat 12 and was excluded and replaced by Josh Bates.

Edited May 24, 2016 by Steve Park

[ruffdiamond]

Sissis got 5+1 for Sheffield in July last year (Sheffield won 41-48). He beat Lewis R, Bates and Simon N in heat 2. He beat Lewis R in heat 5 for a point. He beat Christian Henry for another point in heat 6. He failed to score behind Robbo, Lewis K and Anton Rosen in heat 9 and failed to beat the two mins in heat 12 and was excluded and replaced by Josh Bates.

well,,, taking all that into account, I'd rather have Lewis, on his current Brough form,,, but hope he does well and makes me happy (that takes a lot)

[Gazc]

Next Monday will be a different ball game. Glasgow at home with no Lambert and perhaps even more significantly, no Lewis Rose. Lewis is completely irreplaceable on a 3.86 average given he's averaging double that at home. Liam Carr is probably our only option which will leave us very vulnerable if the Glasgow bottom 3 take to the track.

 

Don't understand why we are holding one of our biggest and toughest home matches of the season on an off race night without two such crucial riders.

Two Sunday tracks Glasgow get first call on that day based on them having raced on that day the longest i suspect.

[acclennell]

Next Monday will be a different ball game. Glasgow at home with no Lambert and perhaps even more significantly, no Lewis Rose. Lewis is completely irreplaceable on a 3.86 average given he's averaging double that at home. Liam Carr is probably our only option which will leave us very vulnerable if the Glasgow bottom 3 take to the track.

 

Don't understand why we are holding one of our biggest and toughest home matches of the season on an off race night without two such crucial riders.

It's a very valid point and one which my come back to haunt at the end of the season. Seems we are missing a combination of key riders in a few meetings this season which is a shame as the team are shaping up very nicely overall.

Two Sunday tracks Glasgow get first call on that day based on them having raced on that day the longest i suspect.

We have held both home and away meeings on the same day in the past though with an earlier start at Glasgow and a later start up here.

Edited May 24, 2016 by acclennell

[Gazc]

It's a very valid point and one which my come back to haunt at the end of the season. Seems we are missing a combination of key riders in a few meetings this season which is a shame as the team are shaping up very nicely overall.

We have held both home and away meeings on the same day in the past though with and earlier start at Glasgow and a later start up here.

Fair point but historically it has always been the May bank holiday Monday at Brough for a fair few years now.

[acclennell]

Fair point but historically it has always been the May bank holiday Monday at Brough for a fair few years now.

True it has, just think with a key fixture like this, then I wold have attempted to race both legs on the Sunday - maybe George did try this and Glasgow said no.

 

We are clearly a decent team this year but as I said the fact that we are missing key riders in a number of matches could end up shooting ourselves in the foot come the end of the season. It's a difficult one all round and one where British speedway shoots itself in the foot in my opinion.

Edited May 24, 2016 by acclennell

[StevePark]

Two Sunday tracks Glasgow get first call on that day based on them having raced on that day the longest i suspect.

 

Both teams came back in the same year, 1997. Glasgow had ridden under the Scottish Monarchs moniker and were classed as a new team when they returned. We had closed down altogether, but returned that same year. We (well a certain person ) lost the toss of a coin to get seniority of Sunday's.

[Paulco]

Two meetings on a Sunday is too much of a mad rush

[acclennell]

Two meetings on a Sunday is too much of a mad rush

It has been done in the past though and when a team is missing two of its key members on current form then surely an option. A trophy/qualification for the play-offs can be won or lost on such decisions. Belle Vue have started earlier to enable SW and RW to be able to ride so I see no reason why not.

Edited May 24, 2016 by acclennell

[Gazc]

True it has, just think with a key fixture like this, then I wold have attempted to race both legs on the Sunday - maybe George did try this and Glasgow said no.

 

We are clearly a decent team this year but as I said the fact that we are missing key riders in a number of matches could end up shooting ourselves in the foot come the end of the season. It's a difficult one all round and one where British speedway shoots itself in the foot in my opinion.

Would doubt that very much over the years there has been a very close relationship between both promotions remember Stewart saying in a programme a couple off years back that he has a really good relationship with George English and is always a pleasure having him up at Ashfield.

 

If it was possible i would say we would have agreed as Newcastle would more than likely help us if needed so i would say that was a no.

 

Both teams came back in the same year, 1997. Glasgow had ridden under the Scottish Monarchs moniker and were classed as a new team when they returned. We had closed down altogether, but returned that same year. We (well a certain person ) lost the toss of a coin to get seniority of Sunday's.

Didn't know that and what a year that was under the Scottish Monarchs we turned up that year supporting the away team every week.

[mike7164]

 

Both teams came back in the same year, 1997. Glasgow had ridden under the Scottish Monarchs moniker and were classed as a new team when they returned. We had closed down altogether, but returned that same year. We (well a certain person ) lost the toss of a coin to get seniority of Sunday's.

That would of made no difference Steve as in particular seasons 2001 & 2 we raced Monday with the exception of the Gems first season in 2002 who then raced at 2pm on Sunday.