semion Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 In fairness given the choice I think most riders would prefer the track not to be wet. I guess the Swindon fans will be pleased to see Troy back in action after the loyal service he gave to the Robins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishRoundabout Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 Batchelor is a fine rider with stacks of talent. However his attitude stinks at times. He certainly needs a PR person because he hasn't thefaintest idea how to deliver a message. Some may argue that why should a speedway rider need such a thing....well maybe when a rider can hack off the best part of a home crowd by not considering the affect his words may have on the feelings of others (and when he is the captain of the side) then surely in situations such as was witnessed at the "farewell meeting" at Blunsdon, such an asset would come in mighty handy! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
van wolfswinkel Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 That was the surprising thing...he was appointed captain!!! Can beat anyone on his day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelvinht Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 weather looking drier for the evening now :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 (edited) Surely guys in Rosco you trust. I take it he was the one who gave him the captaincy. He must have seen something in him to give the job to him. Edited May 16, 2016 by semion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishRoundabout Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 He probably thought the extra responsibility would improve him both as a rider and a person. And to be honest, that wasn't a bad shout to try that. Certainly he did become more of a team man, and an improved team rider. The problem was when he was given the opportunity to talk. Especially with a microphone in front of his mouth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byker Biker Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 Surely guys in Rosco you trust. I take it he was the one who gave him the captaincy. He must have seen something in him to give the job to him. You can trust him to be in flip flops, shades and shorts when it's pizzing down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagonshocker Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 The younger riders in particular will vouch for the help encouragement and lend of a motor when they needed it most, Troys career at Swindon had it's ups and downs but i think on the whole more ups, he was most certainly an interesting member of the side and although i wish him well generally i hope he fails miserably against us! He probably thought the extra responsibility would improve him both as a rider and a person. And to be honest, that wasn't a bad shout to try that. Certainly he did become more of a team man, and an improved team rider. The problem was when he was given the opportunity to talk. Especially with a microphone in front of his mouth. Most of his interviews were fine in fact good to listen to but his honesty could get the better of him, didnt or doesnt really know when to lets say use diplomacy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 So what did Troy say that caused such an issue ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 Anyone know the teams? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 The younger riders in particular will vouch for the help encouragement and lend of a motor when they needed it most, Troys career at Swindon had it's ups and downs but i think on the whole more ups, he was most certainly an interesting member of the side and although i wish him well generally i hope he fails miserably against us! Â Most of his interviews were fine in fact good to listen to but his honesty could get the better of him, didnt or doesnt really know when to lets say use diplomacy! Too honest eh ...... we'll see how he fits in at Lynn, still shocked he's gonna be racing for us again .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wackie Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 So what did Troy say that caused such an issue ? Â I'm not a Swindon fan but was at the first Abbey farewell meeting and was also shocked by Bratchelors comments made openly to a massive crowd that day. Basically it was along the lines of he didn't try during Swindon's home leg of the play offs as the track was crap and after what happened to Ward he wasn't prepared to put his safety on the line. Â Which is fair enough. However speedway is a dangerous sport and the riders put themselves on the line every time they arrive at the tapes no matter whether the track is dry or wet. It was basically a huge 'up yours' to the fans that day and he didn't get a warm reception for his comments.. Too honest eh ...... we'll see how he fits in at Lynn, still shocked he's gonna be racing for us again .... Â I can't see Buster of Rob Lyon putting up with his 'honesty' Personally I think Rosco treats the riders too much like mates and not enough like employees there to do a job. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 Â I'm not a Swindon fan but was at the first Abbey farewell meeting and was also shocked by Bratchelors comments made openly to a massive crowd that day. Basically it was along the lines of he didn't try during Swindon's home leg of the play offs as the track was crap and after what happened to Ward he wasn't prepared to put his safety on the line. Â Which is fair enough. However speedway is a dangerous sport and the riders put themselves on the line every time they arrive at the tapes no matter whether the track is dry or wet. It was basically a huge 'up yours' to the fans that day and he didn't get a warm reception for his comments.. Â That says more about the Swindon fans than Troy imo. I find it quite shameful that he's not allowed to have emotions. People cope in different ways to bad news & Ward wasn't just a team mate but a friend. Batchelor's honesty should have been appreciated rather than lambasted regarding his performance. Maybe the issue should have been taken up with the team manager for allowing Troy to ride in the first place if his mental state isn't on the racing. That's a dangerous situation to place other riders in in the first instance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 Honesty is generally good, rather have that than keeping schtum but complaining that you are being sworn about when not performing (Bjerre). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 Least Troy told the fans how it was. If he had come out with a load of BS about his Bike playing up etc etc, would that have been ok ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reliant Robin Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 (edited) Least Troy told the fans how it was. If he had come out with a load of BS about his Bike playing up etc etc, would that have been ok ? There's a line at times between being honest and antagonising. A simple "The track wasn't how we're used to it, we didn't turn up on the nights we needed to" and possibly an apology/admission might have gone down better than what came across (whether he's right or not) as a "didn't fancy it, like it or lump it". That said, I think he's a worthwhile signing and will do well for the Stars. Would have had him back at Swindon as on the whole he's scored well enough and maintained heatleader position in the race format as it is. Just lets himself down on occasion  Looking ahead to this match, I'd like to think we'll take another Elite League point or two on a track which should suit our team. Edited May 17, 2016 by Reliant Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theblueboy Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 I believe Nick Morris is closer to Ward and although he was clearly affected didn't bleat and moan like Batchelor, I expect a GP rider to have some balls and professionalism and a get on with it attitude. To be honest, Batch doesn't need a lot of encouragement to throw a strop. We still remember when he was replaced by Zagar and how he behaved when he lost his team place due to injury. He then thought he had some sort of divine right to a place despite his replacement smashing in double figure scores for fun. Â I like honesty, its refreshing, however, particulalrly as a captain sometimes, you have to keep it zipped. I was at Belle Vue for the 1st leg of the play off and he was rubbish. End of. He wasn't much better in the return leg. Â If he was as affected, as much as he said he was by Darcy's injury, then he should have been 'honest' and said so to Rosco. How is Rosco supposed to know his number one isn't up to it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 I believe Nick Morris is closer to Ward and although he was clearly affected didn't bleat and moan like Batchelor, I expect a GP rider to have some balls and professionalism and a get on with it attitude. To be honest, Batch doesn't need a lot of encouragement to throw a strop. We still remember when he was replaced by Zagar and how he behaved when he lost his team place due to injury. He then thought he had some sort of divine right to a place despite his replacement smashing in double figure scores for fun. Â I like honesty, its refreshing, however, particulalrly as a captain sometimes, you have to keep it zipped. I was at Belle Vue for the 1st leg of the play off and he was rubbish. End of. He wasn't much better in the return leg. Â If he was as affected, as much as he said he was by Darcy's injury, then he should have been 'honest' and said so to Rosco. How is Rosco supposed to know his number one isn't up to it? Â So, I take it you have no concept that everybody's different and we all should be as hard as nails like you? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 Â So, I take it you have no concept that everybody's different and we all should be as hard as nails like you? Exactly what I thought reading that. Thinking back to Darcy's meeting at Poole, Troy definitely lost his cool on the night, everyone is different, what makes us all unique eh 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagonshocker Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 (edited) I actually stated his honesty can land him in trouble i didnt actually state i thought he was as Trees put it 'too honest'! People need to read posts before making stuff up, you know , lack of honesty! Edited May 17, 2016 by hagonshocker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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