Reviresco Posted May 14, 2016 Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 Kevin Holden Georg (unrelated to John) Hack Karl Maier Henka Gustafsson Steve Weatherley Tim Hunt David Jackson Mark Thorpe Phil Crump Phil Herne Tony Davey Ben Howe Alan Farmer Nick Doncaster Neil Middleditch Peter and Louis Carr Simon Stead Ritchie Hawkins Tommy Knudsen Joe Haines Billy Sanders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted May 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 Steve 'Eccles' Holden - Ex Stoke and Oxford rider. Used to live in a caravan at the back of the pits at Oxford. Quite a character. He occasionally went round to my grandmother's for the occasional meal. If I recall he used to hang out with the likes of Peter Collins and the Morton brothers when they were all quite young. He just disappeared off the scene not long after joining Oxford after showing plenty of promise the previous year (1975) at Stoke. Sadly no longer with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted May 14, 2016 Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 The way it is going it might have been easier to just list those riders who fulfilled their potential 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted May 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 The way it is going it might have been easier to just list those riders who fulfilled their potential Yes but it's fun though isn't it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted May 14, 2016 Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 Found this video of the 1992 gold cup final Reading v Wolverhampton yesterday https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuQSht3xZhQ (if the Racers had had a decent team manager they would have won that ) and reminded me that Sam`s brother Dukie was a decent rider on his day but never really fulfilled the potential. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted May 14, 2016 Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 Found this video of the 1992 gold cup final Reading v Wolverhampton yesterday (if the Racers had had a decent team manager they would have won that ) and reminded me that Sam`s brother Dukie was a decent rider on his day but never really fulfilled the potential. Yes once upon a time the Racers had a good team manager:- Bob Radford wasn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted May 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 (edited) Found this video of the 1992 gold cup final Reading v Wolverhampton yesterday https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuQSht3xZhQ (if the Racers had had a decent team manager they would have won that ) and reminded me that Sam`s brother Dukie was a decent rider on his day but never really fulfilled the potential. Perhaps we should start a new thread...Who was the best Team Manager? Yes once upon a time the Racers had a good team manager:- Bob Radford wasn't it? Remember when Bob Radford became General Manager at Oxford in 1974 and left during the season! If I remember it all stemmed from the time that he advised Gordon Kennett not to make the trip to Cowley for a British League Bank Holiday Meeting against rivals Swindon because the forecast was bleak. However the meeting went ahead without Gordon (I think Alan Johns deputised?) and 'The Rebels' lost to arch rivals 'The Budgies'! Whenever Bob Radford comments about Oxford there is always a certain amount of bitterness...but he never really fitted in at Cowley in my opinion and it wasn't a surprise that he moved on (a view echoed by the Promoters at the time). Edited May 14, 2016 by steve roberts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted May 14, 2016 Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 Yes once upon a time the Racers had a good team manager:- Bob Radford wasn't it? Dick Bailey actually 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted May 14, 2016 Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 The way it is going it might have been easier to just list those riders who fulfilled their potential Yes, that's why I added Ove Fundin! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted May 14, 2016 Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 (edited) The way it is going it might have been easier to just list those riders who fulfilled their potential Does it matter?😅 Edited May 14, 2016 by Sidney the robin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted May 14, 2016 Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 Does it matter? If I have posted something that doesn't matter to you,why reply,fool Course it doesn't matter,it was just a tongue in cheek post If we go right back what about Sprout Elder?Did he reach his full potential or was maybe, his peak before speedway championships got going? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted May 14, 2016 Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 (edited) If I have posted something that doesn't matter to you,why reply,fool Course it doesn't matter,it was just a tongue in cheek post If we go right back what about Sprout Elder?Did he reach his full potential or was maybe, his peak before speedway championships got going? Don't have a hernia me old mucker just a bit of banter take a chill pill 😅 Edited May 14, 2016 by Sidney the robin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Beevers Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 On a world championship level I am surprised that certain riders didn't do more. Chris Morton Lance King Tommy Knudsen Henka Gustafsson Phil Crump Jan Andersson Zenon Plech Mikael Karlsson The Moran brothers are a few in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 On a world championship level I am surprised that certain riders didn't do more. Chris Morton Lance King Tommy Knudsen Henka Gustafsson Phil Crump Jan Andersson Zenon Plech Mikael Karlsson The Moran brothers are a few in my opinion. To make a post like this shows what you have said on another thread total crap when i see you post ever again F... ou ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted May 20, 2016 Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 On a world championship level I am surprised that certain riders didn't do more. Chris Morton Lance King Tommy Knudsen Henka Gustafsson Phil Crump Jan Andersson Zenon Plech Mikael Karlsson The Moran brothers are a few in my opinion. Chris Morton=rubbish gater, great overtaker. Lance King=Not committed enough to the BL. Tommy Knudsen=injured too much. Henka Gustafsson=smoked too much Phil Crump=too nice(unlike sonny boy.) Jan Andersson=got a nose bleed when he left the inside Zenon Plech=fastest rider in the world in 79(should've beaten Mauger.) Mikael Karlsson=looked like taking over from Rickardsson, changed his name and went backwards. Moran brothers=all the talent in the world, but enjoyed the sauce too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted May 25, 2016 Report Share Posted May 25, 2016 I offer up: John Jackson Andrzej Huszcza Andy Hackett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted June 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2016 Peter Purves and John Noakes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted June 5, 2016 Report Share Posted June 5, 2016 I offer up: John Jackson Andrzej Huszcza Andy Hackett Jackson was my favourite ever NL rider,see him once at the brilliant Elesmere Port track a great team man like Steve Lawson a brilliant no 1 for a number of years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted June 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 Jackson was my favourite ever NL rider,see him once at the brilliant Elesmere Port track a great team man like Steve Lawson a brilliant no 1 for a number of years. Remember in 1976 when John Jackson was doubling for a Wolves 'select' side as they were known that year at White City. He was constantly anticipating the start that night much to the annoyance of the home crowd and was eventually warned of his conduct. Of course in those days there was slack control of the starts but some of his actions that night were quite blatant. Biased view? Yes! Wolves beat 'The Rebels' with, as I mentioned, a 'select' side containing both Reg Wilson and Mike Lanham as guests from what I can remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBBATH Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 Brian Brett- retired far to early. For sure should have made the 1964 World final after leading the qualifiers for the British Final where there were 8 spots available for the qualification for the World Final.. Made the 1965 World Final-scored 9 points then retired 2 or 3 years later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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