BluPanther Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 Releasing two ineffective Danes for two British Riders is not in the best interest of British Speedway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple.H. Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 (edited) Steve if you think it's easy money in the PL I suggest you take a listen to the Home Straight podcast and hear what Olly Allen and Simon Stead said.I daresay what the 2 riders say would be irrelevant to any Poole fans as the riders aren't Poole assets.Also the 2nd division has never mattered to them not even when they were perennial midtable contenders. Regarding CC111 if he did ride for Peterborough I could foresee a situation on a Sunday where his Polish team want him to ride so he misses a Peterborough match ttherfore getting a 28 day ban. Edited May 6, 2016 by Triple.H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 I daresay what the 2 riders say would be irrelevant to any Poole fans as the riders aren't Poole assets. Also the 2nd division has never mattered to them not even when they were perennial midtable contenders. Regarding CC111 if he did ride for Peterborough I could foresee a situation on a Sunday where his Polish team want him to ride so he misses a Peterborough match ttherfore getting a 28 day ban. I think the fact that Cook was willing to sign for Peterborough would suggest he was giving up on Poland for the time being, he is/was recalling his equipment from Poland to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 Came onto this threading thinking just how stupid it is for Cook to be riding in the PL, considering he is an EL heat leader. In no way should he be dropping down. Now reading a few pages in, common sense has been used by the MC to block the move. It has upset the Peterborough promotion but tough. An EL heat leader should be nowhere near a PL team berth. Easy pickings and to make easy money. That's all this was. Cook hasnt yet been picked to ride for his Polish club. They would never give him a berth if they see is after easy money. BSPA MC are bang on the money with stopping the move IMO. Absolutely agree. No place for Cook in the PL. can't see why some are moaning at the MC who have made the right call IMO. You talk some absolute garbage at times. Adam Ellis is a heat leader yet you seem to think thats fine for him to go even lower than the premier league and ride national league!! Come on give your reason why thats ok but Cook isnt??? A British rider wants more track time surely thats good for Team GB isnt it?? Adam Ellis shouldnt be allowed to ride National League its disgraceful that a rider of his ability takes a place from a young English lad. You want Josh G not to ride premier league?? You want Danny King not to ride premier league?? Do you even think before you post?? Do you know the reason Cook's move was blocked?? I believe you dont. He isnt allowed to double up because the race nights clash. If it was another club it would have been fine as quite rightly it should. Lets hope Ellis is barred , as he should be, from National League and that if Kyle Newman is a heat leader then he is stopped from riding for Plymouth! What a strange post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 You talk some absolute garbage at times. Adam Ellis is a heat leader yet you seem to think thats fine for him to go even lower than the premier league and ride national league!! Come on give your reason why thats ok but Cook isnt??? A British rider wants more track time surely thats good for Team GB isnt it?? Adam Ellis shouldnt be allowed to ride National League its disgraceful that a rider of his ability takes a place from a young English lad. You want Josh G not to ride premier league?? You want Danny King not to ride premier league?? Do you even think before you post?? Do you know the reason Cook's move was blocked?? I believe you dont. He isnt allowed to double up because the race nights clash. If it was another club it would have been fine as quite rightly it should. Lets hope Ellis is barred , as he should be, from National League and that if Kyle Newman is a heat leader then he is stopped from riding for Plymouth! What a strange post Adam Ellis is not a bonafide header and everyone knows it. Cook is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 (edited) Adam Ellis is not a bonafide header and everyone knows it. Cook is. What if Eliis keeps scoring well and stays there?? An if you read my post you will see i havent mentioned anything about Ellis riding Premier League as he should be allowed to. What is wrong is that he is doing National League, apparantly for testing!! That is stopping youngsters riding at that level and is wrong Cook wants to have more meetings nothing wrong with that. Edited May 6, 2016 by Gavan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 Main thing is we look after our boys like the other countries are doing ...... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 Danny King ? EL Heat leader.Are you sure? Rides like a reserve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 Came onto this threading thinking just how stupid it is for Cook to be riding in the PL, considering he is an EL heat leader. In no way should he be dropping down. Now reading a few pages in, common sense has been used by the MC to block the move. It has upset the Peterborough promotion but tough. An EL heat leader should be nowhere near a PL team berth. Easy pickings and to make easy money. That's all this was. Cook hasnt yet been picked to ride for his Polish club. They would never give him a berth if they see is after easy money. BSPA MC are bang on the money with stopping the move IMO. Absolutely agree. No place for Cook in the PL. can't see why some are moaning at the MC who have made the right call IMO. So what about Poole heat leader Adam Ellis riding in the NL? Or 7.5 EL rider Newman riding in the PL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 So what about Poole heat leader Adam Ellis riding in the NL? Or 7.5 EL rider Newman riding in the PL?Have they got their averages from riding against heatleaders though or second strings and reserves? Cook was BV's best rider for last 4-6 weeks of last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frigbo Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 Good to see the BSPA actually making a sensible decision for once. Rider commitment clashes are already ruining the sport - at least this attempts to stop even more. The riders need to see the bigger picture. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted May 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 If Craig Cook wanted more track time, to bolster his earnings, why on earth choose a track that has the same race night as his other club?? He can only ride in one place at a time, so that defeats the point of the whole exercise??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolskiZuzel Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 Craig had a team place in Poland. Turns up for every practice session but they refused to pick him on race Sunday. This is the reason he's gone to Peterborough. There is no such a thing like " a team place in Poland". Polish clubs have " a squad of riders" from which they can pick and chose. That is to say" a rider has to earn "a team place in Poland". In other words, if the Polish team manager reckons Craig, or any other rider on his list of riders, is good enough, he will pick him up. Another thing, there is no such thing as "they refuse to pick him on race Sunday". Craig has to be better in pre-meeting pratices that he is better that a rider next to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 How comes Dan Bewley was allowed to sign for To sign for Belle Vue and Edinburgh who are both Friday clubs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolskiZuzel Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 (..) Gorzow still have Zmarzlik at reserve!! No they Don't. Zmarzlik is still under 21 rider and that puts him at either no.6 or 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 (edited) No they Don't. Zmarzlik is still under 21 rider and that puts him at either no.6 or 7 Is that not the reserve position? It is here ...... Thing is he is now a GP so should be a heat leader in the team surely? Edited May 6, 2016 by Trees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 Is that not the reserve position? It is here ...... Thing is he is now a GP so should be a heat leader in the team surely? Why? He's under 21. Rules say under 21 rider stay in reserve. Why should he be punished for being good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 (edited) ALL British riders should be allowed to ride in both leagues. I think it should be a speedway carte blanche and riders allowed to race in all three leagues. Edited May 6, 2016 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolskiZuzel Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 Is that not the reserve position? It is here ...... Thing is he is now a GP so should be a heat leader in the team surely? Trees, I thought you are enough experience member of this forum to know that things in Poland are not the same as in the UK. Polish League's teams don't have reserves. Their teams are Not restricted by accumulated CMA. They usually have a pool (squad) of riders from which they pick and chose. So Zmarzlik, Drabik, Przedpelski, etc. will occupay nos. 6 and 7 as lomg as they are U-21. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 maybe next year CC might qualify as a FTR .... surely he's not old enough yet ...... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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