Gavan Posted May 9, 2016 Report Share Posted May 9, 2016 You can't judge a rider's overall ability on Lakeside's track!! Newman would have scored more tonight but i agree Worrall is overall the better rider. Why Hans and Holder were so bad at the start of the meeting i don't know but it sounded a bit gate and go tonight so glad i didn't bother going. thanks for your honesty re Newman and Worrall. You can't really judge a rider on Leicesters track either! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted May 9, 2016 Report Share Posted May 9, 2016 thanks for your honesty re Newman and Worrall. You can't really judge a rider on Leicesters track either! No true! Looks like Starke did pretty well too, really liked him last year always gives plenty of effort. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Posted May 9, 2016 Report Share Posted May 9, 2016 As excellent as the Kings Lynn meeting was, this was a complete contrast not one notable pass all night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevethelion Posted May 9, 2016 Report Share Posted May 9, 2016 The track remains a mystery, the last meeting against KL was excellent with passing in most races & easily the best EL meeting we seen, but tonight as other posters have said there were no passes after bend 2, lap1. Can't understand why? . Perhaps Glyn could tell why the track was so different tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted May 9, 2016 Report Share Posted May 9, 2016 In heat 15 Holder led and Hans cut back up the inside to join him. Updates is wrong. Gavan if you think Poole is the next worse track to Leicester you know nothing clearly about EL speedway. I visit every track in the EL and at Poole we are lucky to havd a track that allows passing on all four bends. I would say the new BV track could be the best, time will tell. Wolves has plenty of passing if you like small tracks. And Poole with flat out racing and loads of passing. Kings Lynn used to have good raing but all reports say its Poor now. If you take off your anti Poole specs or pay a visit you will see with your own eyes. Or watch Poole v BV on Sky soon. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted May 9, 2016 Report Share Posted May 9, 2016 In heat 15 Holder led and Hans cut back up the inside to join him. Updates is wrong. Gavan if you think Poole is the next worse track to Leicester you know nothing clearly about EL speedway. I visit every track in the EL and at Poole we are lucky to havd a track that allows passing on all four bends. I would say the new BV track could be the best, time will tell. Wolves has plenty of passing if you like small tracks. And Poole with flat out racing and loads of passing. Kings Lynn used to have good raing but all reports say its Poor now. If you take off your anti Poole specs or pay a visit you will see with your own eyes. Or watch Poole v BV on Sky soon. Steve he only goes to Ippo once in a blue moon, so the chances of him coming to Poole are NIL.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted May 10, 2016 Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 Steve he only goes to Ippo once in a blue moon, so the chances of him coming to Poole are NIL..correct I go to Ipswich once a month. Thing is pal I have a life. I live an hour from the track, I work for a living and I have a family. Those things mean that I don't go every week like I used to in the 90's. If I still lived at home with my mummy and got in for free to sell the speedway star I would go every week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted May 10, 2016 Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 (edited) correct I go to Ipswich once a month. Thing is pal I have a life. I live an hour from the track, I work for a living and I have a family. Those things mean that I don't go every week like I used to in the 90's. If I still lived at home with my mummy and got in for free to sell the speedway star I would go every week. Wrong pal, i have my {owned} house and i also have a life and to be honest with you my life is none of your frigging business. im whats known as a VOLUNTEER something that speedway cannot get enough of, something Poole speedway has always been blessed with. Every post, you put up smacks of aggression, i would strongly suggest you try yoga, or something to curb that obvious temper of yours because you clearly have one... Edited May 10, 2016 by Starman2006 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted May 10, 2016 Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 The track remains a mystery, the last meeting against KL was excellent with passing in most races & easily the best EL meeting we seen, but tonight as other posters have said there were no passes after bend 2, lap1. Can't understand why? . Perhaps Glyn could tell why the track was so different tonight.Or was it that the riders behind didn't use the track to it's full potential? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted May 10, 2016 Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 A Big well done to Poole. Great comeback from so far behind. Big surprise to many is how come a team packed full of class riders could have found themselves so far behind that they needed a T/R. What is the missing ingredient at the moment ? The riders are there, no one can doubt that. Full of GP and Ex GP and GP riders of the future. Yet they appear to be struggling. Middlo is on record as saying he gets the very best out of all riders that come to Poole. So is it him that is not getting this side to gel at the moment. Watt was shown the door for not performing will Fordie be looking very closely at Middlo at the moment ? Seems like worrying times in Dorset at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted May 10, 2016 Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 (edited) A Big well done to Poole. Great comeback from so far behind. Big surprise to many is how come a team packed full of class riders could have found themselves so far behind that they needed a T/R. What is the missing ingredient at the moment ? The riders are there, no one can doubt that. Full of GP and Ex GP and GP riders of the future. Yet they appear to be struggling. Middlo is on record as saying he gets the very best out of all riders that come to Poole. So is it him that is not getting this side to gel at the moment. Watt was shown the door for not performing will Fordie be looking very closely at Middlo at the moment ? Seems like worrying times in Dorset at the moment. Davey was shown the door because he has personal issues that he needs to sort speedway is a dangerous enough sport without having you head full of other things. Neil doesn't have a problem with Matt nor visa versa, Bradys coming along nicely as everybody at poole knows, this season is a learning curve for him, and nobody at the club is putting him under any pressure. We will be fine, Trophies are not handed out in May June or July, remember that !!! Edited May 10, 2016 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedflash Posted May 10, 2016 Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 Hi, The track last night was not as good as it has been. 2 very warm days makes the track very hard and the water won't sink into the base . I put 15,000 gallons of water on the track from 9pm the night before. Turn 3/4 has now gone very hard and as you saw as soon as the top was moved we had dust. So some new shale for the next meeting should be back to its best. Glyn 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Hunter Posted May 10, 2016 Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 Hi, The track last night was not as good as it has been. 2 very warm days makes the track very hard and the water won't sink into the base . I put 15,000 gallons of water on the track from 9pm the night before. Turn 3/4 has now gone very hard and as you saw as soon as the top was moved we had dust. So some new shale for the next meeting should be back to its best. Glyn Thanks for the explanation Glyn. Just goes to show that track preparation is not as simple as some people think it is. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted May 10, 2016 Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 Hi, The track last night was not as good as it has been. 2 very warm days makes the track very hard and the water won't sink into the base . I put 15,000 gallons of water on the track from 9pm the night before. Turn 3/4 has now gone very hard and as you saw as soon as the top was moved we had dust. So some new shale for the next meeting should be back to its best. Glyn Years ago at Swindon if the weather had been dry the trackman used to try to spike the track and soak it with water the two evenings before the day of the meeting. Mind you the spikes did not last long as the shale could go like concrete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted May 10, 2016 Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 Wrong pal, i have my {owned} house and i also have a life and to be honest with you my life is none of your frigging business. im whats known as a VOLUNTEER something that speedway cannot get enough of, something Poole speedway has always been blessed with. Every post, you put up smacks of aggression, i would strongly suggest you try yoga, or something to curb that obvious temper of yours because you clearly have one... Every track has volunteers so dont try and big yourself up. So your life is none of my business? correct. And my life is none of yours so stop stirring regarding the amount of times i go to watch my club. I happily admit i dont go much so why that should concern you is a mystery to me. Maybe going every week like yourself gives you the biased view you have, with regards to saying that Newman is better than Worral! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Beevers Posted May 10, 2016 Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 Not sure where all this nonsense has come from about Kyle Newman and Steve Worrall. As a neutral, I recall from reading the top list of averages at the end of last season in the Elite League and in this weeks Speedway Star. I remember Kyle Newman finished the Elite League last season with an 8.95 average which was not only astonishing for a reserve but much higher than his Premier League average. Steve Worrall was not in the top scorers Elite League list in the last of last years Speedway Star. This weeks Star states that Newman has an average of 9.52 average and Worrall is not in the list. The facts are there. Newman is a better rider than Worrall around the EL tracks. Now if someone can dig out there averages from the PL from last and this season and then we can add the lot together to find out who really is the better rider that will hopefully end this discussion. I would guess Kyle Newman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Hunter Posted May 10, 2016 Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 Not sure where all this nonsense has come from about Kyle Newman and Steve Worrall. As a neutral, I recall from reading the top list of averages at the end of last season in the Elite League and in this weeks Speedway Star. I remember Kyle Newman finished the Elite League last season with an 8.95 average which was not only astonishing for a reserve but much higher than his Premier League average. Steve Worrall was not in the top scorers Elite League list in the last of last years Speedway Star. This weeks Star states that Newman has an average of 9.52 average and Worrall is not in the list. The facts are there. Newman is a better rider than Worrall around the EL tracks. Now if someone can dig out there averages from the PL from last and this season and then we can add the lot together to find out who really is the better rider that will hopefully end this discussion. I would guess Kyle Newman. If you want the stats go to http://www.speedway-stats.co.uk/Averages/2014/1 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted May 10, 2016 Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 Wrong pal, i have my {owned} house and i also have a life and to be honest with you my life is none of your frigging business. im whats known as a VOLUNTEER something that speedway cannot get enough of, something Poole speedway has always been blessed with. Every post, you put up smacks of aggression, i would strongly suggest you try yoga, or something to curb that obvious temper of yours because you clearly have one... Your so right about Gavan he is full of aggression towards people. For a part time fan he thinks he knows everything too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWC Posted May 10, 2016 Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 ''Win at all cost' Poole Pirates underachieve away from home again. Adam Ellis gets moved into the team proper and now has 3 riders a meeting. Grief! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted May 10, 2016 Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 Not sure where all this nonsense has come from about Kyle Newman and Steve Worrall. As a neutral, I recall from reading the top list of averages at the end of last season in the Elite League and in this weeks Speedway Star. I remember Kyle Newman finished the Elite League last season with an 8.95 average which was not only astonishing for a reserve but much higher than his Premier League average. Steve Worrall was not in the top scorers Elite League list in the last of last years Speedway Star. This weeks Star states that Newman has an average of 9.52 average and Worrall is not in the list. The facts are there. Newman is a better rider than Worrall around the EL tracks. Now if someone can dig out there averages from the PL from last and this season and then we can add the lot together to find out who really is the better rider that will hopefully end this discussion. I would guess Kyle Newman. Worrall has had a higher PL average the last 2 season. Worralls EL average is 8.52 but hes ridden 4 away meetings only, Newmans away average is 9.33 from 2 away meeting - one of them at his best performing away track in the EL. I'd just give Newman the nod at the moment but I'm not sure theres a lot in it at EL level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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