Deano Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 Excellent news about Carmarthen, good luck. Gustix, more kids getting valuable track time is more important than a permanent home. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 (edited) It's ironic that Belle Vue do not race in a stadium with their title yet stock car racing in Manchester takes place in a stadium with that name. But the 'original' home for the speedway was, so far as I know, Zoological Gardens, Hyde Road Stadium while Belle Vue as such was actually a showground nearby? http://www.defunctspeedway.co.uk/belle%20vue%20hyde%20road%202.htm The speedway team's more recent base, where Startrax Motorsports hold the stock car option, is known as Belle Vue Greyhound Stadium. Edited May 1, 2016 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
van wolfswinkel Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 Good Luck to Carmarthen.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 It's ironic that Belle Vue do not race in a stadium with their title yet stock car racing in Manchester takes place in a stadium with that name. But the 'original' home for the speedway was, so far as I know, Zoological Gardens, Hyde Road Stadium while Belle Vue as such was actually a showground nearby? http://www.defunctspeedway.co.uk/belle%20vue%20hyde%20road%202.htm The speedway team's more recent base, where Startrax Motorsports hold the stock car option, is known as Belle Vue Greyhound Stadium. This is how Startrax Motorsports present the Manchester venue: http://www.startrax.info/Home/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 It's ironic that Belle Vue do not race in a stadium with their title yet stock car racing in Manchester takes place in a stadium with that name. But the 'original' home for the speedway was, so far as I know, Zoological Gardens, Hyde Road Stadium while Belle Vue as such was actually a showground nearby? http://www.defunctspeedway.co.uk/belle%20vue%20hyde%20road%202.htm The speedway team's more recent base, where Startrax Motorsports hold the stock car option, is known as Belle Vue Greyhound Stadium. Not really, not many sports teams play in stadiums with the same name as the team. Aston Villa don't play in the villa that gave them their name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 Not really, not many sports teams play in stadiums with the same name as the team. Aston Villa don't play in the villa that gave them their name. Neither do Crystal Palace play near the old Palace that they took their name from.Neither do Millwall play in the area they took their name from or Arsenal either..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 Neither do Crystal Palace play near the old Palace that they took their name from.Neither do Millwall play in the area they took their name from or Arsenal either..... Especially not Arsenal! But I digress... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
van wolfswinkel Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 Nor Queens Park Rangers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 This is how Startrax Motorsports present the Manchester venue: http://www.startrax.info/Home/ Why have you highjacked this thread? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 (edited) Why have you highjacked this thread? In what way I have hi-jacked a thread Deano? That's not the case. If you refer to the Startrax Link that was to show how they regard the stadium they race in as being Belle Vue. No more than that. Please be more specific. I note the "usual lot" are hot on my trail again looking at the LIKES to your Post! Edited May 1, 2016 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 The way things are going, soon we will have more teams without a home base than that actually do have one. No wonder serious senior sports journalists who I have dealings with "smile knowingly" whenever I mention speedway to them. A totally unacceptable post. Did you ever like speedway John, or were you unable to get anyone to employ you on other sports than stock cars or whatever the South London Press deigned to cast its hugely significant journalistic eye over? Right now, Carmarthen will be one of TWO teams, yes, count them, TWO teams operating without a home base at a level above the second half junior leagues. I do suspect that journalists with a contempt for the sport must have had dealings with you. Back in the mid-2000s I was lucky enough to work on some meetings at Iwade (it's beyond the 96 bus terminus) which featured Scunthorpe and Weymouth. In both cases this was well before the re-opening of both tracks but served as important developments in the battle to revive both. Okay, so other projects such as Boston, Southampton and Norwich failed but not for a want of effort. Before then I was part of the team that relaunched Rye House in 1999 as a 'nomadic' team. It worked and speedway returned to Hoddesdon the following season, but onl;y after a senior official at the BSPA had dismissed us as a 'bunch of gypsies'. Someone had to do something to break the then status quo otherwise Rye House could havew still been just a stock car track today. In speedway Wolverhampton and Cradley share a stadium. In football AC Milan and Inter Milan share a stadium. Does that make football a joke in the eyes of your fellow world-class journalists? You clearly can't stand speedway anymore so it would be a great help if you reconsidered postings like this before the final fragment of your surviving reputation as founding editor of the Speedway Star also disappears down the plughole. How are the Grand Prix Midgets doing? Great news that Carmarthen Dragons are back on track for 2016. Lawrence Fielding, Garry May and his wife Lesley came up with the idea and after speaking with the Meakins family have taken the Dragons name on. Plans are to promote interest in 2016 by running the Dragons in away meetings, while the group secure a home track. Planned meetings are: May 13 Exeter v Carmarthen (@Somerset) June 16 Kings Lynn v Carmarthen June 18 Stoke v Carmarthen August 14 Newcastle v Carmarthen August 28 Mildenhall v Carmarthen Buxton away TBA http://m.carmarthenjournal.co.uk/Racers-hope-Carmarthen-Dragons-fly/story-28865783-detail/story.html Good luck to Lawrence, Garry and Lesley with their plan, it will be great to see the Dragons jacket riding again. If anyone can sponsor the boy's or help with fuel and oil costs, please message me. The very best of luck with the project guys. It can be done, despite the wafflings of an ex-hack. I see that one of the people 'liking' my post is Mr.Hyam himself. Are things getting a tad confused, John? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 (edited) A totally unacceptable post. Did you ever like speedway John, or were you unable to get anyone to employ you on other sports than stock cars or whatever the South London Press deigned to cast its hugely significant journalistic eye over? Right now, Carmarthen will be one of TWO teams, yes, count them, TWO teams operating without a home base at a level above the second half junior leagues. I do suspect that journalists with a contempt for the sport must have had dealings with you. Back in the mid-2000s I was lucky enough to work on some meetings at Iwade (it's beyond the 96 bus terminus) which featured Scunthorpe and Weymouth. In both cases this was well before the re-opening of both tracks but served as important developments in the battle to revive both. Okay, so other projects such as Boston, Southampton and Norwich failed but not for a want of effort. Before then I was part of the team that relaunched Rye House in 1999 as a 'nomadic' team. It worked and speedway returned to Hoddesdon the following season, but onl;y after a senior official at the BSPA had dismissed us as a 'bunch of gypsies'. Someone had to do something to break the then status quo otherwise Rye House could havew still been just a stock car track today. In speedway Wolverhampton and Cradley share a stadium. In football AC Milan and Inter Milan share a stadium. Does that make football a joke in the eyes of your fellow world-class journalists? You clearly can't stand speedway anymore so it would be a great help if you reconsidered postings like this before the final fragment of your surviving reputation as founding editor of the Speedway Star also disappears down the plughole. How are the Grand Prix Midgets doing? The very best of luck with the project guys. It can be done, despite the wafflings of an ex-hack. At the South London Press I was employed full-time on the NEWS desk. My speedway and stock car contributions were made purely on a freelance basis - not a full-time job. They seemed to like me - I was employed up to managerial status over 26 years until retirement, then they asked me to return on a part-time basis two days a week and that went on for another 11 years, so I must have been doing something right. I have no idea what is happening with Grand Prix Midgets but again at the SLP, I was asked in about 1978 to also handle their coverage of stock car racing at Wimbledon Stadium. And I tend to question the ongoing validity of 'permanent' stock car racing at Rye House. Most of Spedeworth's drivers hated the place, its poor entry into the stadium and lack of parking facilities for their towing vehicles, trailers and track cars. At one time there was even talk that many would boycott racing there. No I don't hate speedway. My several ventures on Facebook should be enough to prove this factor VERY much in my favour. But what I do recognise about the sport as another saying goes "...things ain't what they used to be..." and the changes made have not IMO benefitted the sport in any way. Sorry I cannot be more explicit! Edited May 1, 2016 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salty Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 Getting back to the original point of the thread. Good luck with the venture. If it leads to the resurrection of the Dragons - fantastic. As RMC points out it was the starting point of bringing back Rye House. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 (edited) In what way I have hi-jacked a thread Deano? That's not the case. If you refer to the Startrax Link that was to show how they regard the stadium they race in as being belle Vue. o more than that. Please be more specific. I note the "usual lot" are hot on my trail again looking at the LIKES to your Post! Your posts have nothing what so ever to do with The Carmarthen Dragons! Your posts are coming across as an attempt to belittle the hard work a team of people are doing to help the sport get revived in Wales. Edited May 1, 2016 by Deano 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 A totally unacceptable post. Did you ever like speedway John, or were you unable to get anyone to employ you on other sports than stock cars or whatever the South London Press deigned to cast its hugely significant journalistic eye over? Right now, Carmarthen will be one of TWO teams, yes, count them, TWO teams operating without a home base at a level above the second half junior leagues. I do suspect that journalists with a contempt for the sport must have had dealings with you. Back in the mid-2000s I was lucky enough to work on some meetings at Iwade (it's beyond the 96 bus terminus) which featured Scunthorpe and Weymouth. In both cases this was well before the re-opening of both tracks but served as important developments in the battle to revive both. Okay, so other projects such as Boston, Southampton and Norwich failed but not for a want of effort. Before then I was part of the team that relaunched Rye House in 1999 as a 'nomadic' team. It worked and speedway returned to Hoddesdon the following season, but onl;y after a senior official at the BSPA had dismissed us as a 'bunch of gypsies'. Someone had to do something to break the then status quo otherwise Rye House could havew still been just a stock car track today. In speedway Wolverhampton and Cradley share a stadium. In football AC Milan and Inter Milan share a stadium. Does that make football a joke in the eyes of your fellow world-class journalists? You clearly can't stand speedway anymore so it would be a great help if you reconsidered postings like this before the final fragment of your surviving reputation as founding editor of the Speedway Star also disappears down the plughole. How are the Grand Prix Midgets doing? The very best of luck with the project guys. It can be done, despite the wafflings of an ex-hack. I see that one of the people 'liking' my post is Mr.Hyam himself. Are things getting a tad confused, John? Not confused i any way. It was the first part of your message that I liked and responded to. It was not intended for the second section but there is no way to indicate a LIKE preference in 'two topic' messages - so far as I can see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor... Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 Your posts have nothing what so ever to do with The Carmarthen Dragons! Your posts are coming across as an attempt to belittle the hard work a team of people are doing to help the sport get revived in Wales. Exactly - i know its a daft question, but i'd love to know what kind of monies need to be invested to get the team moving in this fashion, as it would no doubt be the starting point for any possible Reading Racers revival to get off the ground if we did a similar thing. Not confused i any way. It was the first part of your message that I liked and responded to. It was not intended for the second section but there is no way to indicate a LIKE preference in 'two topic' messages - so far as I can see. Ok, we've all noted that. Now, unless you're talking about Carmarthen in future posts, i suggest you move along. Its a gorgeous day outside, perhaps get some fresh air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 (edited) Exactly - i know its a daft question, but i'd love to know what kind of monies need to be invested to get the team moving in this fashion, as it would no doubt be the starting point for any possible Reading Racers revival to get off the ground if we did a similar thing. Ok, we've all noted that. Now, unless you're talking about Carmarthen in future posts, i suggest you move along. Its a gorgeous day outside, perhaps get some fresh air. Certainly not gorgeous up here in Yorkshire...damn cold out there! Edited May 1, 2016 by steve roberts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
van wolfswinkel Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 Certainly not gorgeous up here in Yorkshire...damn cold out there! Quite nice in Wiltshire and Oxfordshire...eeh its cold oop North. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTDragons Posted May 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 Thanks again guys to all who have shown a genuine interest in the Dragons reforming. Instead of opening a number of different threads for each meeting, I'll update this thread with news and meeting updates as and when I get them. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brummiestormer Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 So excited at this news i thought it was a great little venue when we visited and great viewing from the back straight---i really hope the Brummies are visiting you next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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