waiheke1 Posted May 21, 2016 Report Share Posted May 21, 2016 Ffs there were rumors of holder average fixing last year too. Far more likely it's a combination of the heat format and not having his best bikes over here. What's the betting that now he is at second string he'll miraculously be "back in form" and banging in good scores? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOS50 Posted May 21, 2016 Report Share Posted May 21, 2016 HELP!!! advice needed, is it worth trying to understand this stuff, or am I better off remaining confused? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dump that clutch Posted May 21, 2016 Report Share Posted May 21, 2016 Averages from 20th May BELLE VUE Heatleaders: Zagar, Nicholls, Cook 2nd strings: Fricke, S Worrall Reserves: R Worrall, Jacobs COVENTRY Heatleaders: Kaspazak, Harris, King 2nd strings: Garrity, Bates Reserve: Woryna, Sarjeant KING'S LYNN Heatleaders: Iversen, Batchelor, Lambert 2nd strings: Mads, Wilkinson Reserves: Jacobsen, Rose (However, Wilkinson stays at reserve until Jacobsen returns from injury) LAKESIDE Heatleaders: AJ, Lawson, Nilsson 2nd strings: Swiderski, Bridger Reserves: Kerr, Mear LEICESTER Heatleaders: Watt, Hougaard, Summers 2nd strings: Wozniak, Auty Reserves: Klindt, Starke POOLE PIRATES Heatleaders: Andersen, Newman, Buczkowski 2nd strings: Holder, Bjarne Reserves: Kurtz, Ellis WOLVERHAMPTON Heatleaders: Lindgren, JK, Thorssell 2nd strings: Masters, Howarth Reserves: Bech, Clegg Interesting how Holder is leading world standings and flying in GP but yet slipping nearer to reserve for Poole. Could the rumours of average fixing be true? Can only see him staying at reserve for couple of weeks if does go down one more ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted May 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2016 one more ???? Oops sorry not sure how I missed them. I have amended it now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted May 21, 2016 Report Share Posted May 21, 2016 HELP!!! advice needed, is it worth trying to understand this stuff, or am I better off remaining confused?Just enjoy 4 riders racing 4 laps 10 times (15 if it's not raining). Or you'll go mad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted May 21, 2016 Report Share Posted May 21, 2016 Averages from 20th May BELLE VUE Heatleaders: Zagar, Nicholls, Cook 2nd strings: Fricke, S Worrall Reserves: R Worrall, Jacobs COVENTRY Heatleaders: Kaspazak, Harris, King 2nd strings: Garrity, Bates Reserve: Woryna, Sarjeant KING'S LYNN Heatleaders: Iversen, Batchelor, Lambert 2nd strings: Mads, Wilkinson Reserves: Jacobsen, Rose (However, Wilkinson stays at reserve until Jacobsen returns from injury) LAKESIDE Heatleaders: AJ, Lawson, Nilsson 2nd strings: Swiderski, Bridger Reserves: Kerr, Mear LEICESTER Heatleaders: Watt, Hougaard, Summers 2nd strings: Wozniak, Auty Reserves: Klindt, Starke POOLE PIRATES Heatleaders: Andersen, Newman, Buczkowski 2nd strings: Holder, Bjarne Reserves: Kurtz, Ellis SWINDON Heatleaders: Doyle, Tungate, Grajczonek 2nd strings: Morris, Wright Reserves: Sedgmen, Nielsen WOLVERHAMPTON Heatleaders: Lindgren, JK, Thorssell 2nd strings: Masters, Howarth Reserves: Bech, Clegg Interesting how Holder is leading world standings and flying in GP but yet slipping nearer to reserve for Poole. Could the rumours of average fixing be true? Can only see him staying at reserve for couple of weeks if does go down Can't help yourself can you.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted May 21, 2016 Report Share Posted May 21, 2016 Averages from 20th May BELLE VUE Heatleaders: Zagar, Nicholls, Cook 2nd strings: Fricke, S Worrall Reserves: R Worrall, Jacobs Don't the reserves have to have ridden 2 home matches before they get a chance to move up, of is there a new complication to the already complicated rule? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 No you are right steve. I think this list didn't take that into account 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 No you are right steve. I think this list didn't take that into account Thanks, thought so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 Shouldn't get too bogged down with the current Issue 12 averages. They will be revised again with this week's forthcoming meetings to become effective from 30th May!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted May 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2016 Averages from 30th May are now available No new changes for Belle Vue, Coventry KING'S LYNN Wilkinson returns to reseve & Jacobsen will be a 2nd string. LAKESIDE Bridger moves to reserve. Kerr moves into the main body of the team. Kennett will be a 2nd string after replacing Piotr. LEICESTER Auty & Wozniak move to reserve and Starke and Klindt will be 2nd strings. POOLE Newman already returns to reserve. Ellis moves to a 2nd string position. Holder returns to a heatleader. SWINDON Wright returns to reseve (after good spell in top 5) Sedgmen becomes a heatleader and Josh a 2nd string. WOLVERHAMPTON Howarth returns to reserve. Masters becomes a heat leader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TesarRacing Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 one more ???? Oops sorry not sure how I missed them. I have amended it now Easily done TBF!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dump that clutch Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 Easily done TBF!! now now.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 Then they wonder why fans are walking away such a cock up This weeks STAR a number of promoters saying what a mess it is, Neil Middleditch, Alun Rossiter and BSPA Chair Buster Chapman admits the result of allowing riders to go beyond the reserve berths was not fully considered. Justin Sedgmen at reserve and Charles Wright at number two what a farce. I can only assume that those who are now saying it's wrong, were asleep at the AGM when decisions were made. How you could not foresee this happening beggars belief and once again proves the sport is run by a bunch of amateurs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 (edited) This weeks STAR a number of promoters saying what a mess it is, Neil Middleditch, Alun Rossiter and BSPA Chair Buster Chapman admits the result of allowing riders to go beyond the reserve berths was not fully considered. Justin Sedgmen at reserve and Charles Wright at number two what a farce. I can only assume that those who are now saying it's wrong, were asleep at the AGM when decisions were made. How you could not foresee this happening beggars belief and once again proves the sport is run by a bunch of amateurs. I seem to remember Rosco saying something like they were rushed through at the last minute. They made up the bl##dy rule without thinking it through. They should have gone away for a few days and thought it through as I think it was easily spotted by some on here within a few hours of it being announced. It is obvious to anyone that the reserves should have only jumped from reserve to second string and then only to heat leader using their average calculated on their second string scores only. If the calculating of averages of second string rides only is too restrictive then maybe a reserve should only be moved up to a second string and not a heat leader regardless of average. On the green sheets for 30 5 16 no EDR rider is in a heat leader position, Buster could call a meeting and if all the clubs agree sort out a rule change, after giving it a bit of thought. Edited May 26, 2016 by A ORLOV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countershaftcounter Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 So Ellis goes from the main body back to reserve, has his worst ever meeting since joining Poole then goes back into the main body ? Try explaining that rule to a new supporter ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 So Ellis goes from the main body back to reserve, has his worst ever meeting since joining Poole then goes back into the main body ? Try explaining that rule to a new supporter !It's hardly a tough thing to explain surely. No different to say a tennis player winning Wimbledon but dropping their overall ranking.There are some things in speedway that care rltricky to explain, but rolling averages are surely not one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbend Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 (edited) Excuse my ignorance but how come Steve Worrall has been given a new average yet and why isn't Richie Worrall at reserve as his average is lower than Steve. Edited May 28, 2016 by 2ndbend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 Not had two home matches yet till Monday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbend Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 Not had two home matches yet till Monday. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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