LisaColette Posted May 14, 2016 Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 so y was folks on ere shouting bjarnes at reserve?Cos they thought Brady was swapping with Bjarne. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted May 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 so y was folks on ere shouting bjarnes at reserve? Because the BSPA had messed up his average and posted it as 4 on their green sheet. However they have now changed it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted May 14, 2016 Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 it would look even more of a joke if holder the GP leader dropped to reserve 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyfan Posted May 14, 2016 Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 it would look even more of a joke if holder the GP leader dropped to reserve The way he's riding in the UK this year it wouldn't surprise me to see it happen!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted May 14, 2016 Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 While a bit of a farce I am finding the team changes and racing orders slightly fascinating, it is producing some pretty interesting meetings. What's interesting about it ? Apart from the fact that it reduces the league to a lottery rather than a serious competition, I can't see how a class act like Freddie Lindgren , for example, enhances a meeting by going off as a second string. There might be some sort of academic fascination to it but for the life of me I don't see how it's going to increase the numbers through the turnstiles, which is really what needs to happen. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted May 14, 2016 Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 (edited) Rosco says in this weeks SS they didn't spend enough time on it at the AGM and got it all wrong.Well change it bloody now ..... recalculate the edr's averages? Edited May 14, 2016 by Trees 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted May 15, 2016 Report Share Posted May 15, 2016 Rosco says in this weeks SS they didn't spend enough time on it at the AGM and got it all wrong. nothing new there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted May 15, 2016 Report Share Posted May 15, 2016 (edited) Whilst Newman is injured and in a heat leader position on a 7.24 average, can Poole have a guest up to his average or does it have to be another EDR? Edited May 15, 2016 by Islander15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted May 15, 2016 Report Share Posted May 15, 2016 Whilst Newman is injured and in a heat leader position on a 7.24 average, can Poole have a guest up to his average or does it have to be another EDR? Another EDR or PL rider up to his average I think 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted May 15, 2016 Report Share Posted May 15, 2016 Another EDR or PL rider up to his average I think ... without an EL average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANANAMAN Posted May 15, 2016 Report Share Posted May 15, 2016 E I Addio, on 14 May 2016 - 11:32 PM, said: What's interesting about it ? Apart from the fact that it reduces the league to a lottery rather than a serious competition, I can't see how a class act like Freddie Lindgren , for example, enhances a meeting by going off as a second string. There might be some sort of academic fascination to it but for the life of me I don't see how it's going to increase the numbers through the turnstiles, which is really what needs to happen. Good Post ... I am in total agreement with you . Is it any wonder no credible businessmen from outside Speedway like Mr Hearn as suggested by many , on many occasions, would be willing to come in & overhaul our sport which on the whole left alone without the yearly ridiculous tinkering is actually brilliant to watch !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted May 15, 2016 Report Share Posted May 15, 2016 yes the averages are an absolute calamity , whats going to happen next season if ellis,klindt,newman,auty,worrall,kurtz,and all the other riders that swap 1-5 to reserve, end the season with ridiculously high averages? and are teams going to time it so that a 1-5 is at reserve for the play-offs giving them an advantage? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted May 15, 2016 Report Share Posted May 15, 2016 yes the averages are an absolute calamity , whats going to happen next season if ellis,klindt,newman,auty,worrall,kurtz,and all the other riders that swap 1-5 to reserve, end the season with ridiculously high averages? and are teams going to time it so that a 1-5 is at reserve for the play-offs giving them an advantage? Over the course of a season it should even itself out, but you'll still end up with some riders with a 7-point average having ridden as a heatleader all year and some with a 7-point average having ridden as a reserve/secondstring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted May 15, 2016 Report Share Posted May 15, 2016 Whilst Newman is injured and in a heat leader position on a 7.24 average, can Poole have a guest up to his average or does it have to be another EDR? Kyle Newman is intending to ride on Wednesday against Leicester - weather permitting!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted May 15, 2016 Report Share Posted May 15, 2016 So after 7 seasons since his Elite League debut Kyle Newman is finally going to be in top 5. About time & hope it works out for him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted May 15, 2016 Report Share Posted May 15, 2016 (edited) Over the course of a season it should even itself out, but you'll still end up with some riders with a 7-point average having ridden as a heatleader all year and some with a 7-point average having ridden as a reserve/secondstring. it wont even itself out thou will it, ellis went from 3.00 to 8.00 in only a handful meetings , if he's at reserve for the last 2/3 meetings of the season , he could quite possibly end on 8.00 as could many others , Edited May 15, 2016 by heathen chemistry 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted May 15, 2016 Report Share Posted May 15, 2016 So after 7 seasons since his Elite League debut Kyle Newman is finally going to be in top 5. About time & hope it works out for him. Just remember he just coming back from a very nasty injury.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted May 15, 2016 Report Share Posted May 15, 2016 it wont even itself out thou will it, ellis went from 3.00 to 8.00 in only a handful meetings , if he's at reserve for the last 2/3 meetings of the season , he could quite possibly end on 8.00 as could many others , He won't end on 8 but 7 is possible. Between Newman and Ellis they'll get about 3 or 4 as a heat leader but 8 or 9 not as a reserve and it'll average out to be about 7. The rule that needs there to always be an EDR in reserve will be a killer for Ellis and Newmans averages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted May 15, 2016 Report Share Posted May 15, 2016 it wont even itself out thou will it, ellis went from 3.00 to 8.00 in only a handful meetings , if he's at reserve for the last 2/3 meetings of the season , he could quite possibly end on 8.00 as could many others , His average went up to 8 because it was based on only four meetings. By the end of the season he will have a 20-meeting rolling average, so the meetings where he's ridden as a reserve will balance out against the meetings where he's ridden as heatleader or secondstring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted May 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2016 (edited) Averages from 20th May BELLE VUE Heatleaders: Zagar, Nicholls, Cook 2nd strings: Fricke, S Worrall Reserves: R Worrall, Jacobs COVENTRY Heatleaders: Kaspazak, Harris, King 2nd strings: Garrity, Bates Reserve: Woryna, Sarjeant KING'S LYNN Heatleaders: Iversen, Batchelor, Lambert 2nd strings: Mads, Wilkinson Reserves: Jacobsen, Rose (However, Wilkinson stays at reserve until Jacobsen returns from injury) LAKESIDE Heatleaders: AJ, Lawson, Nilsson 2nd strings: Swiderski, Bridger Reserves: Kerr, Mear LEICESTER Heatleaders: Watt, Hougaard, Summers 2nd strings: Wozniak, Auty Reserves: Klindt, Starke POOLE PIRATES Heatleaders: Andersen, Newman, Buczkowski 2nd strings: Holder, Bjarne Reserves: Kurtz, Ellis SWINDON Heatleaders: Doyle, Tungate, Grajczonek 2nd strings: Morris, Wright Reserves: Sedgmen, Nielsen WOLVERHAMPTON Heatleaders: Lindgren, JK, Thorssell 2nd strings: Masters, Howarth Reserves: Bech, Clegg Interesting how Holder is leading world standings and flying in GP but yet slipping nearer to reserve for Poole. Could the rumours of average fixing be true? Can only see him staying at reserve for couple of weeks if does go down Edited May 21, 2016 by mdmc82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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