Panthers89 Posted May 10, 2016 Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 Been on an horrific 2 day course and recorded the speedway, is it worth sitting through? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted May 10, 2016 Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 Been on an horrific 2 day course and recorded the speedway, is it worth sitting through?Yes! One of the better sky meetings. Definitely watch heat 14 though! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted May 10, 2016 Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 (edited) How about the following Home win by more than 6 points, as now Home team 3 points Away team finishing within 4 - 6 points of the home team, Home team 2 points Away team 1 point Away team finishing within 3 - 1 points of the home team, Home team 1 point Away team 2 points Draw Home team 0 points Away team 2 points Away win 1 - 6 points Home team 0 points Away team 3 points Away win 6+ points Home team 0 points Away team 4 points That should keep the teams fighting till the last race. Don't give up your day job ... funny if nothing else Edited May 10, 2016 by orion 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted May 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 Been on an horrific 2 day course and recorded the speedway, is it worth sitting through? Yes it was a good meeting. The track produced some great races Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourentee Posted May 10, 2016 Report Share Posted May 10, 2016 Yes it was a good meeting. The track produced some great races I know what you're saying, but one or two of the riders may also have contributed! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Jasper Posted May 11, 2016 Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 Freddie has rode how Speedway should hard and fast, don't know what Speedway you want to watch.. The only thing I disagree with is the practice of cutting across a rider in midcorner, however I do realise that this is due to riders sliding off tactically if they are being taken out wide and getting the opponent excluded. Course he is. Five six years ago he was el top dog for a few seasons in a row , fringe contender for top 8 in the gps etc. Now he isnt even in the gps and riding as a second string in a very watered down el. Lets be honest, if he was still world class hed never leave the number 1 jacket for wolves in a team of what is essentially second strings, kylmakorpi maybe excluded. Still have a few good scores, but well past his best and that really cannot be argued. ref being a 2nd string, thats due to the bizarre averages situation. Also he had a couple of bad years, on machinery which was obviously not fast enough. Now the machinery looks very quick, his confidence is coming back. Anyone know what Bomber is riding this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted May 11, 2016 Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 The only thing I disagree with is the practice of cutting across a rider in midcorner, however I do realise that this is due to riders sliding off tactically if they are being taken out wide and getting the opponent excluded. ref being a 2nd string, thats due to the bizarre averages situation. Also he had a couple of bad years, on machinery which was obviously not fast enough. Now the machinery looks very quick, his confidence is coming back. Anyone know what Bomber is riding this year? He is back on GM engines , tweaked by Brian Andersen I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Science Posted May 11, 2016 Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 (edited) No, rule doesn't say that at all. It says, "15.2.5 Riders must at the expiry of this time allowance, be on the track, under power, proceeding without stopping towards the Starting Gate." he was NOT under power and he was not proceeding towards the starting gate.Why was Masters not excluded then ? If that is the rule then the referee clearly didn't understand it Under the old rule Masters would have definitely been excluded Edited May 11, 2016 by New Science Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game On Posted May 11, 2016 Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 He is back on GM engines , tweaked by Brian Andersen I believe. Looked quicker last year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted May 11, 2016 Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 Looked quicker last year Judging by Lindgren's pace on Monday there's not a lot wrong with the Gerhard engine . I have no idea why bomber isn't using them this season to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingbee Posted May 11, 2016 Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 Judging by Lindgren's pace on Monday there's not a lot wrong with the Gerhard engine . I have no idea why bomber isn't using them this season to be honest. he never got offered a factory ride I think he said something about it in the star Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted May 11, 2016 Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 he never got offered a factory ride I think he said something about it in the star Chris stated he couldn't afford the outlay for the engines (around 6-7 I seem to remember) so had to fall back on some of the GM's he'd already had + a couple of new. it was Eskil Suter, less so Marcel who had concerns the Bomber wasn't showcasing the engines to the best of their ability so was interested in securing bigger names as factory riders. So far, this has proven a good investment from Gehard Motor Co in Freddie Lindgren. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted May 11, 2016 Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 (edited) Apparently Bomber didnt want to pay for them. Bomber didn't use the Gerhard engine that often to be honest anyway. Edited May 11, 2016 by woz01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted May 11, 2016 Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 It's often been said over the years that Bombers biggest failing is his ability to know how to get the most out of the bike he's riding when back in the pits. So he always seemed an odd guy to have trying to develop/work on them with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted May 11, 2016 Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 I thought Jason Doyle was using Gerhard too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabbsjoe Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 Apparently Bomber didnt want to pay for them. Bomber didn't use the Gerhard engine that often to be honest anyway. I think that might be one of the reasons why they didn't want to give him the backing and said he'd have to pay for them. it was mentioned quite a few times last season by Tatum I think that Gerhard wanted him to try them in the GP but he'd always ride his GM but would switch to the GTR for a final race which would usually do better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Jasper Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 Chris stated he couldn't afford the outlay for the engines (around 6-7 I seem to remember) so had to fall back on some of the GM's he'd already had + a couple of new. it was Eskil Suter, less so Marcel who had concerns the Bomber wasn't showcasing the engines to the best of their ability so was interested in securing bigger names as factory riders. So far, this has proven a good investment from Gehard Motor Co in Freddie Lindgren. Thanks, thats odd cos Bomber has been known to to get rid of a whole stockpile of engines ( which were seemingly going well) for a new load in the following season, I've often thought this has contributed to his slow starts to the season. It's often been said over the years that Bombers biggest failing is his ability to know how to get the most out of the bike he's riding when back in the pits. So he always seemed an odd guy to have trying to develop/work on them with. I thought the same, perhaps it was due to the fact Andersen was working with him. I think that might be one of the reasons why they didn't want to give him the backing and said he'd have to pay for them. it was mentioned quite a few times last season by Tatum I think that Gerhard wanted him to try them in the GP but he'd always ride his GM but would switch to the GTR for a final race which would usually do better. He certainly seemed to get to the first corner a little bit quicker than usual, when he used it in SWC it seemed to hook up and drive better into the 1st corner. However he seemed to struggle slightly with speed later in the race. Possibly down to the way he corners or lines he was taking. if it did require him to "race" differently then perhaps its a bit too late in his career for him to change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourentee Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 He certainly seemed to get to the first corner a little bit quicker than usual, when he used it in SWC it seemed to hook up and drive better into the 1st corner. However he seemed to struggle slightly with speed later in the race. Possibly down to the way he corners or lines he was taking. if it did require him to "race" differently then perhaps its a bit too late in his career for him to change. Lindgren said one of the reasons he uses the Gerhard is that it suits his style of riding. Perhaps the same, for whatever reason, simply doesn't apply to Harris. In passing, riders appear to have a shorthand language of their own when describing engine characteristics. Some years back Peter Karlsson tested a new engine after a Monmore match and returned to the pits to tell Graham Jones: "It's OK out of the start, but it's a bit neeeyaaaaoooow (makes aeroplane take-off and banking gesture) in the first corner." By no means the least weird aspect of the affair was that Jonah immediately knew what he meant. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 Lindgren said one of the reasons he uses the Gerhard is that it suits his style of riding. Perhaps the same, for whatever reason, simply doesn't apply to Harris. In passing, riders appear to have a shorthand language of their own when describing engine characteristics. Some years back Peter Karlsson tested a new engine after a Monmore match and returned to the pits to tell Graham Jones: "It's OK out of the start, but it's a bit neeeyaaaaoooow (makes aeroplane take-off and banking gesture) in the first corner." By no means the least weird aspect of the affair was that Jonah immediately knew what he meant. Sounds like you need work on your Swedish Black Country 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 think robert lambert rides them aswell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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