speedwaysliders Posted April 26, 2016 Report Share Posted April 26, 2016 Maybe its just me thats a bit of an anorak on this subject!!!! but unlike in F1,where there are graphics to help,we are left guessing what equipment the riders use like ,engines,Tyres, etc IN GPs It would be nice to know for example what Chris Harris engine choice is,and if anyone is tuning the MG engine?.Are there works riders out there with a big budget?,Is anyone sponsored with a chioce of tyre?.I know the commentaters just ramble on but you very rarely get the info you want.If someone from one of the riders teams is reading this,it would be nice to know the riders set ups(how many bikes engines etc they take to a GP.Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted April 26, 2016 Report Share Posted April 26, 2016 speedwaygp website has some info under the Riders tab and Crew Equipment. Dont know how upto date it is though... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 BARUM supply each rider with five tyres but they are at liberty to use another homologated tyre of their own choice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTC38L Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 BARUM supply each rider with five tyres but they are at liberty to use another homologated tyre of their own choice. I thought mitas was the official tyre??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 I thought mitas was the official tyre??? SORRY, my mistake ... senior moment 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple.H. Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 SORRY, my mistake ... senior moment Most probably due to the EU even us youngsters suffer the same affliction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim3751 Posted May 2, 2016 Report Share Posted May 2, 2016 Maybe its just me thats a bit of an anorak on this subject!!!! but unlike in F1,where there are graphics to help,we are left guessing what equipment the riders use like ,engines,Tyres, etc IN GPs It would be nice to know for example what Chris Harris engine choice is,and if anyone is tuning the MG engine?.Are there works riders out there with a big budget?,Is anyone sponsored with a chioce of tyre?.I know the commentaters just ramble on but you very rarely get the info you want.If someone from one of the riders teams is reading this,it would be nice to know the riders set ups(how many bikes engines etc they take to a GP.Thanks Me too but I don't consider it to be anorakish, just interested in the sport. I don't do statistics so rely on others for averages that seem to stimulate so much interest but I do like to know who's using what engine and if it makes a difference. Also who prepares them - the rider's dad or a specialist tuner. UK or Poland? Lakeside have 2 riders using Jawas. Why? BTW it looked like Freddie Lingren was using a GTR engine. Last season Greg was using a Gold(en) tyre. Is that an option or is the Mitas the only one now? And what about frames or chassis? Tony Rickardson experimented with a Penske so who favours what? So much more than who wins and who's at the back 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawkins20 Posted May 11, 2016 Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 There was an article on sportowefakty about tuners. Seems like early in the season riders who work with Jan Andersson have powerful bikes while PJR riders struggling to find speed at times. http://sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/600359/tunerzy-problemem-wielu-zawodnikow-dominacja-jana-anderssona Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabbsjoe Posted May 11, 2016 Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 Me too but I don't consider it to be anorakish, just interested in the sport. I don't do statistics so rely on others for averages that seem to stimulate so much interest but I do like to know who's using what engine and if it makes a difference. Also who prepares them - the rider's dad or a specialist tuner. UK or Poland? Lakeside have 2 riders using Jawas. Why? BTW it looked like Freddie Lingren was using a GTR engine. Last season Greg was using a Gold(en) tyre. Is that an option or is the Mitas the only one now? And what about frames or chassis? Tony Rickardson experimented with a Penske so who favours what? So much more than who wins and who's at the back those are the two revolution team members aren't they ? unless I'm wrong. from what I know and having been told a few years ago a GM engine is easier to tune / set up for the track than a Jawa but that the Jawa has a better output but the window for finding that setup is smaller than the GM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted May 11, 2016 Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 INTERESTINGLY I was told today that only one rider at the Slovenian SGP had new engines for this year. And that Zmarzlik, for example, only does 10 heats on a GM before he has it serviced. In contrast Freddie Lindgren, who made the decision to purchase GTRs, has been using them for several meetings without any recourse to tuners. He looked plenty fast at Coventry and seems to have got his mojo back. In contrast the two Lakeside riders (Brighter and Kerr) have been struggling on their Jawas and the reality is that scoring three or four points a meeting simply isn't going to make riding a viable proposition. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted May 11, 2016 Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 INTERESTINGLY I was told today that only one rider at the Slovenian SGP had new engines for this year. And that Zmarzlik, for example, only does 10 heats on a GM before he has it serviced. Opened and checked, or serviced? Because that sounds just stupid. And Hampels 15 heats was stupid as well. But if the money is there, then why not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted May 11, 2016 Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 Opened and checked, or serviced? Because that sounds just stupid. And Hampels 15 heats was stupid as well. But if the money is there, then why not. SERVICED I'm told. Some riders may have the money but others certainly will not and of course may try and continue as long as possible. In the sam,e conversation I was told that sales of GMs are significantly down so there is obviously some intent amongst riders to avoid splashing out on new engines when their 2015 models have performed well. Craig Cook is a case in point. He finished last year going like a train, breaking several track records (and, no, he wasn't on a biggy) so to a layman like me why wouldn't he put those in the garage and wheel them out this season and carry on where he left off. I'm one of those stupid golfers who thinks that buying a new club will make me a better player but it rarely does. And it's not my living. The trend amongst riders in recent years has been to rush out and buy new engines under the assumption that they will go faster and faster but that obviously isn't the case. If you look at Jason Doyle and Andreas Jonsson you would class them has two riders of similar ability but one absolutely knows what he wants from his engines and how to get it while the other does not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flagrag Posted May 11, 2016 Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 I know of some riders that are actually on 2014 GM engines as there has not been a big change in technology or design. Obviously these have been serviced and tweaked since also some GP riders have specific engines for set tracks and I remember Simon Stead telling me about an engine that he uses just at Sheffield he set it up with Ashley Holloway with the cam,piston and valves set exactly to Owlerton so it drives in the dirt lines so the rider can rely on the power being in the correct place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawkins20 Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 (edited) Kolodziej praise the GTR engines, but says it needs a lot of testing to get the best out of it. He only rides them at practice. http://sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/600473/janusz-kolodziej-wspiera-idee-marcela-gerharda-gtr-to-super-silnik Edited May 12, 2016 by Dawkins20 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabbsjoe Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 INTERESTINGLY I was told today that only one rider at the Slovenian SGP had new engines for this year. And that Zmarzlik, for example, only does 10 heats on a GM before he has it serviced. In contrast Freddie Lindgren, who made the decision to purchase GTRs, has been using them for several meetings without any recourse to tuners. He looked plenty fast at Coventry and seems to have got his mojo back. In contrast the two Lakeside riders (Brighter and Kerr) have been struggling on their Jawas and the reality is that scoring three or four points a meeting simply isn't going to make riding a viable proposition. has he bought them or is he working with Gerhard since he stopped working with Harris after last season ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseq7 Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 Kolodziej praise the GTR engines, but says its needs a lot of testing to get the best out of it. He only rides them at practice. http://sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/600473/janusz-kolodziej-wspiera-idee-marcela-gerharda-gtr-to-super-silnik I'm lost here. "He only rides them at practise". What's the point in doing that? Is it just a personal physical strength and conditioning? I can't see the point of practising on an engine you don't compete on. Maybe I'm missing something..............? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 I'm lost here. "He only rides them at practise". What's the point in doing that? Is it just a personal physical strength and conditioning? I can't see the point of practising on an engine you don't compete on. Maybe I'm missing something..............? The Polish riders practice all week don't they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseq7 Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 The Polish riders practice all week don't they? Fair enough but what's the point of practising on an engine you don't compete on? Unless there's some kind of logic like practising with a smaller sized football or swinging a baseball bat with weights on it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 The Polish riders practice all week don't they?Please define "all week"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawkins20 Posted May 12, 2016 Report Share Posted May 12, 2016 I'm lost here. "He only rides them at practise". What's the point in doing that? Is it just a personal physical strength and conditioning? I can't see the point of practising on an engine you don't compete on. Maybe I'm missing something..............? In the league he rides on Jan Andersson GMs, which works really well for him at the moment so it would be stupid to try a new engine he doesnt know 100% in an ektraliga meeting where he earns his living. Fair enough but what's the point of practising on an engine you don't compete on? Unless there's some kind of logic like practising with a smaller sized football or swinging a baseball bat with weights on it? Its a technical sport not like football, if a F1 team comes up with a new engine they need to test before using it in a GP, dont they? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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