Alex2000 Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 Eastbourne are at full strength tomorrow with debuts for Adam Ellis, Ellis Perks and Luke Harris. Mildenhall have Sam Bebee promoted to reserve. Sunday Ryan Blacklock guests for perks (apparently). Im Going for Eastbourne win over 2 legs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teaboy279 Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 Didn't Perks ride at Coventry for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex2000 Posted April 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 (edited) Didn't Perks ride at Coventry for you. as a guest debut in the actual line up apparently as that is what they are calling it Edited April 22, 2016 by Al3x200 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 Yeah so for average purposes, this is Perks' first meeting. Alex, Blacklock as a guest is on the Mildenhall website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex2000 Posted April 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 Yeah so for average purposes, this is Perks' first meeting. Alex, Blacklock as a guest is on the Mildenhall website. thought so but hadn't seen it personally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliemegan1 Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 I think the Fen Tigers are coming on leeps and bounds and are becoming a very strong allround team, very quickly. I feel once they have a stable no.7-they could be a very big threat to the top teams. With regards to this weekend I believe that it will be close but depending on the reserves, I think Mildenhall could sneek the win! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Nicki Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 To repeat myself: Everyone happy down at Eastbourne now, with the inevitable predictability of an easy maximum from your EL short-term guest, Adam Ellis, who could be riding as a HL in the top league next week? Who gains from this total farce, apart from the rider earning loads of easy £ and the Eagles fans pleasuring themselves that he is an Eagle in name only, for a few weeks. Absolutely ridiculous that this can happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countershaftcounter Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 To repeat myself: Everyone happy down at Eastbourne now, with the inevitable predictability of an easy maximum from your EL short-term guest, Adam Ellis, who could be riding as a HL in the top league next week? Who gains from this total farce, apart from the rider earning loads of easy £ and the Eagles fans pleasuring themselves that he is an Eagle in name only, for a few weeks. Absolutely ridiculous that this can happen. you've been boring … sorry telling everyone how to fix speedway in the uk for a while now. Your constant whining is getting as tiresome as Gavan and the like, if you're not a multi or a troll , do you seriously get off on coming on many threads and being so negative? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Nicki Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 you've been boring … sorry telling everyone how to fix speedway in the uk for a while now. Your constant whining is getting as tiresome as Gavan and the like, if you're not a multi or a troll , do you seriously get off on coming on many threads and being so negative? Boring? Maybe. Troll or Multi? No. Concerned speedway fan? Yes. Disappointed that Adam Ellis has dropped back into the NL, rather than taking a berth in the PL? Yes. Fed up with some Eagles fans laughable opinion that the NL should all be about winning, rather than a Development league? Yes indeedy do. Like Gavan? I don't wear drag costumes or secretly love Starman. Get off on coming? Depends what you mean by that. Is this a forum where any poster is allowed to post opinions? Oh yeah, baby. Negative? Only when it applies. How's your day been and how many counter shafts has counter shaft counter counted today? Whatever a counter shaft counter is, or does. Enjoy your speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countershaftcounter Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 Day's been great thanks, watched Ipswich beat sheffield and stopped off for a pint on the way home . I may go to Mildenhall tomorrow too . Or I suppose I could come on here and whinge like you do constantly. Keep smiling . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Nicki Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Thanks, I will, as I can see only one person whingeing on here. You, whingeing about me. Pot / Kettle / Mirror / Signal / Manoeuvre. Glad you enjoyed your trip to Foxhall (I got my prediction of a Tigers win wrong, silly me) and enjoy your possible visit to West Row tomorrow. One of my favourite places when the old track was there, before they put the dog track down. Rode on it a few times too, in the days of Bob, Fred, Trevor, Rob, John, Mick & Neil. Trust that you were not driving if you stopped off for a drink. Might explain your attitude toward me though. Some people just can't handle their drink. I might of gone myself tomorrow, but the Pirates are visiting the EWR later today. They have a great bar at West row, don't they and do super fish & chips. I see that Adam Ellis recorded a time in Heat 15 which was three seconds faster than that in the previous heat. Not very sporting or fair is it for the riders who truly want to learn and develop in that league by being able to pit their skills fairly against the other riders. Not exactly a level playing field - well, not at Arlington anyway. Anyway, happy stalking, whingeing and good luck with the alcohol induced aggression. Nice chatting & Enjoy your speedway. Note to self: Google what a counter shaft counter actually does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 (edited) To repeat myself: Everyone happy down at Eastbourne now, with the inevitable predictability of an easy maximum from your EL short-term guest, Adam Ellis, who could be riding as a HL in the top league next week? Who gains from this total farce, apart from the rider earning loads of easy £ and the Eagles fans pleasuring themselves that he is an Eagle in name only, for a few weeks. Absolutely ridiculous that this can happen. I don't agree. The National League might be for development but its also a business. That means the product has to attract paying customers and they simply won't come to something that is little more than a training session. In addition, we all know only too well what happens to the attendances of teams that regularly lose at home - with the resultant risk to their existence. That means you have to have riders above the development stage, although I could make fair argument that of those riding last night only Knight, Halsey and Armstrong would fall into that category and the benefit of having one experienced rider around the youngsters is an obvious one. Eastbourne lost their number 1 rider, and they can't replace him with a 3.00 junior. You might question Ellis' motives for riding in a league where he will be almost unbeatable (although I think he has a lot of motives, all with the queens head on) but it seems to me that he is happy, Eastbourne are happy, he is a developing rider who is eligible for the NL and the league has a star who might just pull in a few extra fans wherever he goes. I don't have an issue with that. Back to the meeting. Closer than I thought on a track that was slippery to start with but settled down. Big congratulations to Sam Bebee on winning his first NL ride Edited April 24, 2016 by Halifaxtiger 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny the spud Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 I don't agree. The National League might be for development but its also a business. That means the product has to attract paying customers and they simply won't come to something that is little more than a training session. In addition, we all know only too well what happens to the attendances of teams that regularly lose at home - with the resultant risk to their existence. That means you have to have riders above the development stage, although I could make fair argument that of those riding last night only Knight, Halsey and Armstrong would fall into that category and the benefit of having one experienced rider around the youngsters is an obvious one. Eastbourne lost their number 1 rider, and they can't replace him with a 3.00 junior. What they did was sign a developing rider who is eligible for the NL and fits the bill perfectly. You might question Ellis' motives for riding in a league where he will be almost unbeatable (although I think he has a lot of motives, all with the queens head on) but it seems to me that he is happy, Eastbourne are happy and the NL has a top rider who might just pull in a few extra fans wherever he goes. I don't have an issue with that. Once again the money situation is mentioned by people who don't know , Adam neither asked for or was offered any more than last year at Birmingham, ( which was less than some other NL no1's were /are on). Dugard's asked him to help, he's eligible, it's short term and the racing fits in with his fixtures. Why shouldn't he ride ? If you're going to use the "he's far too good" excuse you may as well say let's stop anyone playing football against Lionel Messi. Young riders need track time (whatever their level of development, Adam included ) and someone / something to aspire to. You never stop learning, no track time is wasted. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex2000 Posted April 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Ok well let's face it if we didn't have Adam at number 1 our team would be a bit poor, I think by having a 10.14 rider we have levelled out the farce reserves berths at the moment. Tom Brennan looked to be flying compared to them and rode the track much better. Hope Nick gets well soon. I would possibly have argued to strengthen the bottom end and get an 8 point number 1 but we have 3 very good heatleaders all of them on maximums or paid maximums had it not been for one fall and a race to the line after a wide run. Hopefully our top 4 will carry the momentum into today. I'm happy with Harris scoring 4 when he should really be a reserve as number 2 is a tall order for such a short lad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Once again the money situation is mentioned by people who don't know , Adam neither asked for or was offered any more than last year at Birmingham, ( which was less than some other NL no1's were /are on). Dugard's asked him to help, he's eligible, it's short term and the racing fits in with his fixtures. Why shouldn't he ride ? If you're going to use the "he's far too good" excuse you may as well say let's stop anyone playing football against Lionel Messi. Young riders need track time (whatever their level of development, Adam included ) and someone / something to aspire to. You never stop learning, no track time is wasted. Its not a question of money, but of motivation. I have no problem with Ellis riding in the NL, but I have to ask why a rider of his ability would choose to ride in a league that is clearly far below his standard (I doubt very much that he will learn a lot turning out for Eastbourne) when my understanding is that he has turned down a PL place. I can find one reason : what he can earn. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurnTwo Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Maybe it's because eastbournes an hour and a half up the road? Say he was offered a place up north or the midlands why would he want to do the travelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 (edited) Fed up with some Eagles fans laughable opinion that the NL should all be about winning, rather than a Development league? All well and good if you have a PL side to put them in once they've "developed". To attract people through the gate you need three or four riders who know what they're doing to balance out the wobblers. Doubt sides like Eastbourne & Birmingham would be in business if they had a team of rookies. Rye House are a different kettle of fish entirely. They have a PL side and own the stadium. Their entire existence doesn't rest on how the Raiders are doing. Edited April 24, 2016 by Shads 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex2000 Posted April 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Its not a question of money, but of motivation. I have no problem with Ellis riding in the NL, but I have to ask why a rider of his ability would choose to ride in a league that is clearly far below his standard (I doubt very much that he will learn a lot turning out for Eastbourne) when my understanding is that he has turned down a PL place. I can find one reason : what he can earn. I'm pretty sure he has said something about being weaker on smaller tracks so to use one of the smaller tracks in the league and Britain he should be able to sort out set ups for himself when he's riding in the EL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Maybe it's because eastbournes an hour and a half up the road? Say he was offered a place up north or the midlands why would he want to do the travelling Because it will benefit his career far more than riding in the NL. He'll learn nothing there. Still, its his choice. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzac Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 (edited) I'm pretty sure he has said something about being weaker on smaller tracks so to use one of the smaller tracks in the league and Britain he should be able to sort out set ups for himself when he's riding in the ELExactly, even the Poole fans on their own forum think it's a good move as he'll improve on smaller tracks. Edited April 24, 2016 by gazzac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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