SCB Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 So tonight we see Charles Wright become a heat leader for Swindon. Next week we'll see one of Ellis or Newman become Poole heat leader. In a months time I'd say it's 50/50 that Holder could become Pooles reserve! Honestly, you could have Newman or Ellis at heat leader but Holder in reserve. And next winter have messed up everyone averages again you'd going to have the issue that you're going to need heat leader lists and second string lists! Well Done to the BSPA on managing to mess up the sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 Could we have Holder guesting for Charles Wright? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted April 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 Could we have Holder guesting for Charles Wright? Luckily I don't think so. Because Holders average will still be higher than Wrights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy The Rebel Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 So tonight we see Charles Wright become a heat leader for Swindon. Next week we'll see one of Ellis or Newman become Poole heat leader. In a months time I'd say it's 50/50 that Holder could become Pooles reserve! Honestly, you could have Newman or Ellis at heat leader but Holder in reserve. And next winter have messed up everyone averages again you'd going to have the issue that you're going to need heat leader lists and second string lists! Well Done to the BSPA on managing to mess up the sport. Completely agree scb it's becoming a minefield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 Luckily I don't think so. Because Holders average will still be higher than Wrights Shame.... Got to be a 'classic' somewhere before the season finishes.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 It's totally pathetic. Poor Charles Wright tonight. It's so bloody obvious that reserves should only move up to second string and heatleaders only down to second string. Or just revert to the proper race formula with proper averages. A total cock up. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secsy1 Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 Why is Klindt reserve for Leicester, thought the riders at reserve were British? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted April 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 It's totally pathetic. Poor Charles Wright tonight. It's so bloody obvious that reserves should only move up to second string and heatleaders only down to second string. Or just revert to the proper race formula with proper averages. A total cock up. Why confuse matters? Just go back to the old format. It's still slightly biased towards who you ride against anyway but nowhere near the way it is now. Why is Klindt reserve for Leicester, thought the riders at reserve were British? Because Paul Starke has moved up with news averages coming out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 Why confuse matters? Just go back to the old format. That's what I said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANANAMAN Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 SCB, on 21 Apr 2016 - 9:05 PM, said: Why confuse matters? Just go back to the old format. It's still slightly biased towards who you ride against anyway but nowhere near the way it is now. Because Paul Starke has moved up with news averages coming out. Why confuse matters? Just go back to the old format. It's still slightly biased towards who you ride against anyway but nowhere near the way it is now. Because Paul Starke has moved up with news averages coming out. Hope Paul & Charles flourish in their new team roles but in some meetings I can see them only having 3 rides which in the whole scheme of this aint going to help to further their careers is it ?....Perhaps a couple of BSPA members knew their teams before they had the format agreed . Don't see how a Dane having 6 rides at No7 & a English lad having 3 rides at No2 is good for British Speedway .!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted April 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 Hope Paul & Charles flourish in their new team roles but in some meetings I can see them only having 3 rides which in the whole scheme of this aint going to help to further their careers is it ?....Perhaps a couple of BSPA members knew their teams before they had the format agreed . Don't see how a Dane having 6 rides at No7 & a English lad having 3 rides at No2 is good for British Speedway .!! I have no issue with that tbf. They've had their hands held for 2 seasons, they've been guaranteed a team place this year. So if they go into thr 1-5 that should be how it works BUT it should be if they've earned a place in the 1-5, not got it gifted because of the crap format! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countershaftcounter Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 Hope Paul & Charles flourish in their new team roles but in some meetings I can see them only having 3 rides which in the whole scheme of this aint going to help to further their careers is it ?....Perhaps a couple of BSPA members knew their teams before they had the format agreed . Don't see how a Dane having 6 rides at No7 & a English lad having 3 rides at No2 is good for British Speedway .!! bet the Dane isn't riding for £50 a point ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 And Steve Worrall with higher average at reserve then Richie Worrall in main body, so tonight when it was r/r for Richie, Steve was the rider above! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 What's really concerning is when it was clear this heat format was seriously flawed ( and let's be honest everyone is aware it's crap) they didn't go back to the original heat format, it truly beggars belief. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drew2 Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 Hope Paul & Charles flourish in their new team roles but in some meetings I can see them only having 3 rides which in the whole scheme of this aint going to help to further their careers is it ?....Perhaps a couple of BSPA members knew their teams before they had the format agreed . Don't see how a Dane having 6 rides at No7 & a English lad having 3 rides at No2 is good for British Speedway .!! As a Somerset fan i really liked the fact that Wrighty and Starkey were piling up the points at reserve for Swindon and Leicester respectively as their confidence is going to be high. Nothing like winning races to do that whichever league it is! Now they are scoring less (understandably too in the main body of an EL team) i hope it doesn't affect their scoring for Somerset also as those two are the engine room at the OTA this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 So tonight we see Charles Wright become a heat leader for Swindon. Next week we'll see one of Ellis or Newman become Poole heat leader. In a months time I'd say it's 50/50 that Holder could become Pooles reserve! Honestly, you could have Newman or Ellis at heat leader but Holder in reserve. And next winter have messed up everyone averages again you'd going to have the issue that you're going to need heat leader lists and second string lists! Well Done to the BSPA on managing to mess up the sport. Thats ok then, if it doesn't work for your beloved team its no good, RIGHT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 What's really concerning is when it was clear this heat format was seriously flawed ( and let's be honest everyone is aware it's crap) they didn't go back to the original heat format, it truly beggars belief.Let`s be honest- the promoter`s chose this format originally for one reason and one reason only- Money. Cheap reserves and the better riders racing against each other more with the result no easy points and therefore no easy money. What`s happening this season already and what`s likely to happen before the season is out I can only imagine what it could do to their wage bills. Maybe they have covered these eventualities with the individual contracts ?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 So tonight we see Charles Wright become a heat leader for Swindon. Next week we'll see one of Ellis or Newman become Poole heat leader. In a months time I'd say it's 50/50 that Holder could become Pooles reserve! Honestly, you could have Newman or Ellis at heat leader but Holder in reserve. And next winter have messed up everyone averages again you'd going to have the issue that you're going to need heat leader lists and second string lists! Well Done to the BSPA on managing to mess up the sport. Even the average fan fan could see what could happen.Like you say it's all messed up.Im sure they will think of some thing more ludicrous for next season though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 Although the format is shockingly awful I do think the FTR's will learn a lot more about what they need to push on from scoring 0's. Constantly banging in double figure scores from reserve will get them nowhere except false hope. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 Although the format is shockingly awful I do think the FTR's will learn a lot more about what they need to push on from scoring 0's. Constantly banging in double figure scores from reserve will get them nowhere except false hope. Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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