Woz01 Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 Glad things have changed. The fines given to Harris and Kylmakorpi when they didn't want to ride last year was nuts. Yep especially when an agreed inspection then didnt take place! On this occasion though the ref obviously did an inspection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 ...Rider safety is paramount... Get it right, rider safety is paramount unless Poole need points. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted April 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 Bikes are too fast and unpredictable to race in the wet Don't agree, more like today's rider's have no idea how throttle control works & can't manage their set-up's accordingly. We're in a age now where the throttle cable needs to be at it's most stretched. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 http://www.ezi-cover.com.au/ Would something like this work ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 The only Hypocrite on here is you deary.. Rider safety is paramount, but you wouldn't understand that, would you... Meaning ? pillock. So you think the conditions in the Belle Vue meeting were safe do you???? Last night shouldn't have gone ahead but then neither should the Belle Vue meeting. You can't bleat about rider safety when it suits paperboyThink you need to look up the dictionary definition of hypocrite as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LunnasPerm Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 (edited) "Paperboy". Edited April 28, 2016 by LunnasPerm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jive Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 Will this fixture now go back to the original date of next Thursday does anyone know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 I think the general consensus is that last night was rightly called off. You can argue that years ago riders rode in far worse, and they did I witnessed it on many occasions. Nowadays the rocket ships riders are mounted on just don't allow any finesse on wet tracks so the skill of riding them has all but gone. The main problem with last night was the timing of the call off. I was in Lynn all day and there was an horrendous hailstorm about 2 which left hail about 2 inches deep, I know I got wet feet walking to a church, there was another less severe storm about 5 which probably did the damage. That is when the meeting should have been called off, not left dangling in the air for Sky to self importantly announce it live on air. They must be using superglue on speedways coffin now cos there ain't any room for more nails! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 The main problem with last night was the timing of the call off. I was in Lynn all day and there was an horrendous hailstorm about 2 which left hail about 2 inches deep, I know I got wet feet walking to a church, I use to have a pair of Shoes like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.V 72 Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 I think the general consensus is that last night was rightly called off. You can argue that years ago riders rode in far worse, and they did I witnessed it on many occasions. Nowadays the rocket ships riders are mounted on just don't allow any finesse on wet tracks so the skill of riding them has all but gone. The main problem with last night was the timing of the call off. I was in Lynn all day and there was an horrendous hailstorm about 2 which left hail about 2 inches deep, I know I got wet feet walking to a church, there was another less severe storm about 5 which probably did the damage. That is when the meeting should have been called off, not left dangling in the air for Sky to self importantly announce it live on air. They must be using superglue on speedways coffin now cos there ain't any room for more nails! Church,they seem to be having a problem getting the crowds in as well these days.If God can't get them in what chance have speedway promoters got. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dump that clutch Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 The only Hypocrite on here is you deary.. Rider safety is paramount, but you wouldn't understand that, would you... Meaning ? Oh dear Starman, are you really not able to read into what I wrote..? meetings have been ridden on far from ideal conditions before, if this was a 'cough cough' last day before the cut off I'm pretty confident it would have been completed... you catch my drift.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 Church,they seem to be having a problem getting the crowds in as well these days.If God can't get them in what chance have speedway promoters got. Me going to one was probably the cause of the hailstorm I only do hatches,matches and dispatches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 I popped in to the Arena about 3pm after the almighty hail and rain storm in Kings Lynn, and Buster was working on the track making sure it could go ahead .. on driving home and then going out again a little later I made the decision not to go, I just felt even if Buster had the track sorted it still wouldn't go ahead as it would be down to the riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 I popped in to the Arena about 3pm after the almighty hail and rain storm in Kings Lynn, and Buster was working on the track making sure it could go ahead .. on driving home and then going out again a little later I made the decision not to go, I just felt even if Buster had the track sorted it still wouldn't go ahead as it would be down to the riders. Steve as an ex-rider would you or have you ridden in such conditions or worse and do the current bikes make riding in the wet more difficult? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 I did ride in worse, but that was because I wanted to ride .. I remember riding at Peterborough in a cup match where we (Canterbury) had one or two riders refuse to ride, I think I got 5 or 6 rides out of it, but the bikes were quite a bit different then, we didn't have to be flat out to get round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 Thanks for that Steve. Can't remember the last time a single (or couple) of riders refused to ride tho I have seen it in long distant past. I'm on a roll now Do you think the riders should state their opinion openly in a changing room meeting or should it be by secret ballot to avoid "bullying"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 the latter, 100% 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 (edited) Maybe back in the day last night might have been the only meeting the riders would have and their only chance of getting a wage that week. Now with riders riding all over Europe and others riding in 2 and in some case 3 league in the UK, the need is somewhat less. Would the likes of NKI and Holder not be more concerned about picking up an unnecessary injury with the a GP just a few short days away. Again back in the day riders never had that to think about. What would have happened last night if the meeting had been declared on and NKI and Holder said stuff that we aint riding. Ban... Or meeting called off ? I know where my sixpence would go if I was a betting man. Speedway in this country and proven time and time again that is panders to the big names and fixtures are arranged around their availability. We are dealing in different times now. Sponsors are VIP's when the GP rides into town. Edited April 28, 2016 by semion 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 Don't agree, more like today's rider's have no idea how throttle control works & can't manage their set-up's accordingly. We're in a age now where the throttle cable needs to be at it's most stretched. Richard Weston is right. Modern bikes have a very narrow power band and therein lies the problem. Modern bikes are revving to something aproaching twice as much as th old two valve JAPs and Jawas. The more you increase power at the top end the more you compromise at the bottom end. Not the riders lack of ability it's the way modern engines develop their power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted April 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 Who did make the decision to call it off then,Buczkowski,Lawrence,Reeve or Sky. as mentioned earlier, putting 2+2 together it seems the decision was made early on by the rider's in the changing rooms. Sky says hold off the official announcement until they go live on air. This would be why none of the Poole rider's even got changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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