Could Woffy Be Making An El Return?

[BWitcher]

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This principle doesnt work because he is not a bus driver or table clearer at McDonalds. He is a sportsman with fans. There are other responsibilities to take into consideraton.

 

No there aren't.

 

Fans are irrelevant in the scheme of things. Next you'll be saying Nicki Pedersen must not be such a hard rider as it upsets fans...

[liam]

Flagrag, who works for Sky mentioned it on the previous page.

Mentioned what? All he said was a deal was offered. No mention of numbers or anything. Sky offered me a deal before I moved to Virgin once, I refused it as it was a joke

 

 

I love all these people telling tai what he should do when its him risking his life every time he goes to tapes like all the riders do. The fact he raises hundreds of thousands for GOSH every year says more about him as a man than deciding not to ride here. Ask the families of the ill kids all that money helps how they feel about him. Maybe tai wants to be a multiple world champion but have his legacy remembered by all the good he done for charity rather than please a few sitting behind a computer.

Edited April 29, 2016 by liam

[Star Lady]

 

 

I love all these people telling tai what he should do when its him risking his life every time he goes to tapes like all the riders do. The fact he raises hundreds of thousands for GOSH every year says more about him as a man than deciding not to ride here. Ask the families of the ill kids all that money helps how they feel about him. Maybe tai wants to be a multiple world champion but have his legacy remembered by all the good he done for charity rather than please a few sitting behind a computer.

 

 

What about the thousands of people who have raised and continue to raise money for charity, in some cases far more than Tai, without the beneift of a PR machine behind them. They do so willingly and probably at some cost to themselves and family time wise but do not seek publicity or thanks.

 

I'm not decrying what Tai did for GOSH but had he not had the speedway press, his fans and even the BSF behind him, he would not have raised the amount he did. I'm pretty sure Tai did not do it for the publicity, he did it for the best of reasons but please stop stuffing it down peoples throats because for all you know many of those you complain about are doing exactly the same without the benefits he had..

[LisaColette]

 

 

What about the thousands of people who have raised and continue to raise money for charity, in some cases far more than Tai, without the beneift of a PR machine behind them. They do so willingly and probably at some cost to themselves and family time wise but do not seek publicity or thanks.

 

I'm not decrying what Tai did for GOSH but had he not had the speedway press, his fans and even the BSF behind him, he would not have raised the amount he did. I'm pretty sure Tai did not do it for the publicity, he did it for the best of reasons but please stop stuffing it down peoples throats because for all you know many of those you complain about are doing exactly the same without the benefits he had..

Well said SL 👍

[BWitcher]

 

 

What about the thousands of people who have raised and continue to raise money for charity, in some cases far more than Tai, without the beneift of a PR machine behind them. They do so willingly and probably at some cost to themselves and family time wise but do not seek publicity or thanks.

 

I'm not decrying what Tai did for GOSH but had he not had the speedway press, his fans and even the BSF behind him, he would not have raised the amount he did. I'm pretty sure Tai did not do it for the publicity, he did it for the best of reasons but please stop stuffing it down peoples throats because for all you know many of those you complain about are doing exactly the same without the benefits he had..

 

Completely irrelevant, unless you and a few others want to take a pop at any of those others who raise money for charity but have decided to change employer in the past for better pay and/or work/social life balance.

[liam]

 

 

What about the thousands of people who have raised and continue to raise money for charity, in some cases far more than Tai, without the beneift of a PR machine behind them. They do so willingly and probably at some cost to themselves and family time wise but do not seek publicity or thanks.

 

I'm not decrying what Tai did for GOSH but had he not had the speedway press, his fans and even the BSF behind him, he would not have raised the amount he did. I'm pretty sure Tai did not do it for the publicity, he did it for the best of reasons but please stop stuffing it down peoples throats because for all you know many of those you complain about are doing exactly the same without the benefits he had..

Wow. You must really dislike the fella. Also well done to everyone who do bits for charity but we ain't talking about them are we. I'll stop mentioning all he does for charity when you stop banging on about what he should and shouldn't be doing with his life.

[BWitcher]

Wow. You must really dislike the fella. Also well done to everyone who do bits for charity but we ain't talking about them are we. I'll stop mentioning all he does for charity when you stop banging on about what he should and shouldn't be doing with his life.

 

Nail on head.

[Sidney the robin]

 

Getting seriously worried how much I'm agreeing with you lately

 

If his travelling costs for the UK were covered, and that's how I read it, why not drop Sweden for the UK. Haven't heard too much about Sweden paying mega bucks. To say travelling is exhausting is a bit misleading as he lives in the UK and judging by his tweets last year he comes back quite often.

 

Quite simply he doesn't want to ride here, which makes his so called wish to "help" British speedway progress a total farce. I've always judged people on their actions and not their words. Yes he did a massive amount for GOSH and I've applauded him for that but when it comes to British speedway he has lost my support, respect and any admiration that I did once have for him. He won't give a toss I'm sure.

 

My only hope is that the BSPA do not give him any special favours in the future, he has snubbed them several times now and IMHO any support, financial or otherwise, would be far better targetted at young British hopefuls like Kyle Bickley, the Thompsons and the McGurks.

Don't forget Tom Brennan a fine prospect.

[tellboy]

There seem to be a few people believing 100% what Flagrag says.Not denying it may/may not be true.He wasn't involved in the deal and he says what he heard and was told.Well we all know how stories change as it gets passed down the line.Obviously Flagrag was down the line.

I work for one of the biggest companies in the world(biggest in their business)and the things that filter down from the top most certainly has changed a hell of a lot when it gets down to the bottom.

[Steve Shovlar]

There seem to be a few people believing 100% what Flagrag says.Not denying it may/may not be true.He wasn't involved in the deal and he says what he heard and was told.Well we all know how stories change as it gets passed down the line.Obviously Flagrag was down the line.

I work for one of the biggest companies in the world(biggest in their business)and the things that filter down from the top most certainly has changed a hell of a lot when it gets down to the bottom.

Flagrag doesnt drive a van around installing dishes.

[BWitcher]

Flagrag doesnt drive a van around installing dishes.

 

So what you're basically saying is that Woffinden has rejected a package that would make him financially better off, just to spite a few keyboard warriors in the UK?

[tellboy]

Flagrag doesnt drive a van around installing dishes.

Didn't say he did.But stories still change he wasn't in on the deal its what he was told and heard.We all know how things can get stretched especially on here.

[robert72]

Rubbish is it a matter of principle.

 

Speedway is his career, his job. It's a short career that could end tomorrow. It is up to him to make as much money as he can during that period, be as successful as he can whilst maintaining some form of balance to actually enjoy it.

 

Would you want someone dictating to you who you should work for, where you should work? Telling you that you should still be working for your first employer because they helped train you, even though it might be for much less money, with far more travelling and costs involved? Of course you wouldn't!

So it's all about money for tai then, the British fans don't come into his thoughts, makes it even worse

[liam]

So it's all about money for tai then, the British fans don't come into his thoughts, makes it even worse

It's about what's best for him and his family, like every single one of us should be no matter what your job is.

[Steve Shovlar]

If he was a Joe Bloggs then fair enough. I struggle to understand why you think it acceptable that he as British World Champion is snubbing the British Public? If he was tired, then give up Sweden for gods sake!

[weatherwatcher]

Think it is still in UK, somewhere like Sheffield, maybe?

Hem lives about 15 miles away from where I am. He is as far as I know still living in Derby

[liam]

If he was a Joe Bloggs then fair enough. I struggle to understand why you think it acceptable that he as British World Champion is snubbing the British Public? If he was tired, then give up Sweden for gods sake!

Because he has decided it's better for his career not to ride here, what's not to understand? I have no idea why he's not riding here and i don't really care to be honest. I would guess he earns more in Sweden than he can here. Edited April 29, 2016 by liam

[phillipsr]

So it's all about money for tai then, the British fans don't come into his thoughts, makes it even worse

 

Why should he? Its about making the best for yourself,

[robert72]

Why should he? Its about making the best for yourself,

Without fans your a nobody and wouldn't be making a very good living riding a bike.

[flagrag]

I do not know the exact figures that was offered to Tai as it was a combined deal that was put together but do know exactly what Sky were prepared to do to try and get him in the EL in 2016. As this has been raised here today I have actually had a chat and coffee this afternoon with the man that did put it together to make sure I had understood correctly.

 

The BSPA were obviously fully behind this even as far as CVS agreeing to him going to any club on loan for the best interest of the sport in the UK

 

It would be wrong and unjust to post the finances involved but was more than worth the riders while to do in most people's minds. You also have to remember this was a form of sponsorship so was on top of his usual points,travelling and appearance fee which being WC he is entitled to ask for top money.

 

Steve Shovlar - You are correct I don't drive a van but do have some nice big satellite dishes on my office roof and enough decoders to fit out a small town with Sky TV 🤓