Could Woffy Be Making An El Return?

[Aces51]

Some folk are still clinging to the belief it is just the money that prevents riders from racing in the UK.

 

It isn't. It is the schedule. The news that an attractive package was offered to Tai pretty much confirms that.

I think that is too simplistic. I agree that the schedule is the major reason given both in terms of fixed nights and the number of matches. However, I suspect that a package which was significantly more lucrative than Poland or Sweden would soon see a change of mind from at least some of these riders.

[Steve Shovlar]

Well there we have it. He just doesnt want to ride here, the country of his birth, the country where he learnt his skill, the country where his main fan base was.

 

If The BSPA and Sky put together a package and this was snubbed, and BT wanted him to promote the GP series as British World Champion, and this was snubbed, shat respect does he actually have for British fans?

 

I shall be at Cardiff letting him know. If he does an autograph session in the street he will certain hear my views on his snub of British fans. He probably doesnt give a toss to be honest.

 

A real shame because he could have gone down as a household name and speedway legend. Now many will view him with a slight distain. A real shame after all the charity work he has done and the British following he was gaining.

 

So Doyle, Harris, Holder and Zagar manage to do all leagues. Not British. Bjarne, MadsK, Buck, Lindgren, Fiske plus others all do three leagues. Harris manages it and is a Brit. Shame on Woffinden for not dropping Sweden for his own countries fans and league.

Edited April 29, 2016 by Steve Shovlar

[SteveLyric2]

Well there we have it. He just doesnt want to ride here, the country of his birth, the country where he learnt his skill, the country where his main fan base was.

 

If The BSPA and Sky put together a package and this was snubbed, and BT wanted him to promote the GP series as British World Champion, and this was snubbed, shat respect does he actually have for British fans?

 

I shall be at Cardiff letting him know. If he does an autograph session in the street he will certain hear my views on his snub of British fans. He probably doesnt give a toss to be honest.

 

A real shame because he could have gone down as a household name and speedway legend. Now many will view him with a slight distain. A real shame after all the charity work he has done and the British following he was gaining.

 

So Doyle, Harris, Holder and Zagar manage to do all leagues. Not British. Bjarne, MadsK, Buck, Lindgren, Fiske plus others all do three leagues. Harris manages it and is a Brit. Shame on Woffinden for not dropping Sweden for his own countries fans and league.

 

...and still lives in this country apparently so still has all the cost and aggro of flying backwards/forwards and between the various countries!!

[robert72]

Well there we have it. He just doesnt want to ride here, the country of his birth, the country where he learnt his skill, the country where his main fan base was.

If The BSPA and Sky put together a package and this was snubbed, and BT wanted him to promote the GP series as British World Champion, and this was snubbed, shat respect does he actually have for British fans?

I shall be at Cardiff letting him know. If he does an autograph session in the street he will certain hear my views on his snub of British fans. He probably doesnt give a toss to be honest.

A real shame because he could have gone down as a household name and speedway legend. Now many will view him with a slight distain. A real shame after all the charity work he has done and the British following he was gaining.

So Doyle, Harris, Holder and Zagar manage to do all leagues. Not British. Bjarne, MadsK, Buck, Lindgren, Fiske plus others all do three leagues. Harris manages it and is a Brit. Shame on Woffinden for not dropping Sweden for his own countries fans and league.

I don't agree with you often Steve but you are spot on, and if anyone says but tai is chasing a world title, yes then so is Holder,Doyle,NKI,Zagar,Jonsson they all want to be world champion but they ride in Britain and other countries.

 

Too many excuses from tai now, so it's time British speedway stood strong and left him out of team GB this year.

[Star Lady]

Well there we have it. He just doesnt want to ride here, the country of his birth, the country where he learnt his skill, the country where his main fan base was.

 

If The BSPA and Sky put together a package and this was snubbed, and BT wanted him to promote the GP series as British World Champion, and this was snubbed, shat respect does he actually have for British fans?

 

I shall be at Cardiff letting him know. If he does an autograph session in the street he will certain hear my views on his snub of British fans. He probably doesnt give a toss to be honest.

 

A real shame because he could have gone down as a household name and speedway legend. Now many will view him with a slight distain. A real shame after all the charity work he has done and the British following he was gaining.

 

So Doyle, Harris, Holder and Zagar manage to do all leagues. Not British. Bjarne, MadsK, Buck, Lindgren, Fiske plus others all do three leagues. Harris manages it and is a Brit. Shame on Woffinden for not dropping Sweden for his own countries fans and league.

 

Getting seriously worried how much I'm agreeing with you lately

 

If his travelling costs for the UK were covered, and that's how I read it, why not drop Sweden for the UK. Haven't heard too much about Sweden paying mega bucks. To say travelling is exhausting is a bit misleading as he lives in the UK and judging by his tweets last year he comes back quite often.

 

Quite simply he doesn't want to ride here, which makes his so called wish to "help" British speedway progress a total farce. I've always judged people on their actions and not their words. Yes he did a massive amount for GOSH and I've applauded him for that but when it comes to British speedway he has lost my support, respect and any admiration that I did once have for him. He won't give a toss I'm sure.

 

My only hope is that the BSPA do not give him any special favours in the future, he has snubbed them several times now and IMHO any support, financial or otherwise, would be far better targetted at young British hopefuls like Kyle Bickley, the Thompsons and the McGurks.

[liam]

Well there we have it. He just doesnt want to ride here, the country of his birth, the country where he learnt his skill, the country where his main fan base was.

 

If The BSPA and Sky put together a package and this was snubbed, and BT wanted him to promote the GP series as British World Champion, and this was snubbed, shat respect does he actually have for British fans?

 

I shall be at Cardiff letting him know. If he does an autograph session in the street he will certain hear my views on his snub of British fans. He probably doesnt give a toss to be honest.

 

A real shame because he could have gone down as a household name and speedway legend. Now many will view him with a slight distain. A real shame after all the charity work he has done and the British following he was gaining.

 

So Doyle, Harris, Holder and Zagar manage to do all leagues. Not British. Bjarne, MadsK, Buck, Lindgren, Fiske plus others all do three leagues. Harris manages it and is a Brit. Shame on Woffinden for not dropping Sweden for his own countries fans and league.

What was the package put together?

[Steve Shovlar]

What was the package put together?

Flagrag, who works for Sky mentioned it on the previous page.

[chris4gillian]

I don't comprehend why Tai not riding in the UK is such a big deal to some of you. It's ridiculous the stuff a number of you are posting. He doesn't currently ride in the UK, so bleedin' what? It's as if your lives are being ruled by this rather insignificant thing. So very sad.

 

As for the arrogance, that's a trait a world beater needs! However, just ask Great Ormond Street if they think he's arrogant when away from the track...

[Steve0]

I don't comprehend why Tai not riding in the UK is such a big deal to some of you. It's ridiculous the stuff a number of you are posting. He doesn't currently ride in the UK, so bleedin' what? It's as if your lives are being ruled by this rather insignificant thing. So very sad.

 

As for the arrogance, that's a trait a world beater needs! However, just ask Great Ormond Street if they think he's arrogant when away from the track...

Totally agree with your post. If he doesn't want to ride in the UK - he doesn't have to ride in the UK and no amount of posturing by some so called "fans" will make him change his mind. He has made the right decision for him and his family and I respect that and wish him all the success he deserves.

[RobMcCaffery]

I don't comprehend why Tai not riding in the UK is such a big deal to some of you. It's ridiculous the stuff a number of you are posting. He doesn't currently ride in the UK, so bleedin' what? It's as if your lives are being ruled by this rather insignificant thing. So very sad.

 

As for the arrogance, that's a trait a world beater needs! However, just ask Great Ormond Street if they think he's arrogant when away from the track...

It's a matter of principle, an alien concept these days to many.

 

He's a British World Champion and could do so much for British Speedway by showing his true loyalty to it. I cannot see the Poles or Swedes tolerating a Swedish or Polish World Champion failing to ride in their leagues or national championships. The Aussies seem to tolerate it though. Could that be where Tai's 'inspiration' has come from?

 

Tai's in an unusual situation where he had a choice of nation to represent internationally, British by birth, Australian by long-term residence.

 

Choosing Britain gave him certain advantages - but it comes with a price.

 

Loyalty, it's a two-way street.

Edited April 29, 2016 by rmc

[Steve Shovlar]

It's a matter of principle, an alien concept these days to many.

 

He's a British World Champion and could do so much for British Speedway by showing his true loyalty to it. I cannot see the Poles or Swedes tolerating a Swedish or Polish World Champion failing to ride in their leagues or national championships. The Aussies seem to tolerate it though. Could that be where Tai's 'inspiration' has come from?

 

Tai's in an unusual situation where he had a choice of nation to represent internationally, British by birth, Australian by long-term residence.

 

Choosing Britain gave him certain advantages - but it comes with a price.

 

Loyalty, it's a two-way street.

Agree. Some of you seem to fail to grasp that Woffinden is a sportsmen, therefore the normal rules of providing for your family do not apply the same way.

 

If he was a builder it would be different. But he is not. He has fans and is World Champion. Young riders or kids should be looking up to him and wanting to be like Tai.

 

Except they dont see him because he has snubbed these fans by not riding here.

 

Someone wrote earlier that team GB should drop him. I could quite happily go along with that. Rather have a rider who competes in the UK riding in the SWC than a rider who wouldnt even ride in the British Final. Rugby do that. If you play in France you dont play for England.

Edited April 29, 2016 by Steve Shovlar

[LisaColette]

SS if you have a go at him in Cardiff can you film it please??

[AndyK86]

Agree. Some of you seem to fail to grasp that Woffinden is a sportsmen, therefore the normal rules of providing for your family do not apply the same way.

 

If he was a builder it would be different. But he is not. He has fans and is World Champion. Young riders or kids should be looking up to him and wanting to be like Tai.

 

Except they dont see him because he has snubbed these fans by not riding here.

 

Someone wrote earlier that team GB should drop him. I could quite happily go along with that. Rather have a rider who competes in the UK riding in the SWC than a rider who wouldnt even ride in the British Final. Rugby do that. If you play in France you dont play for England.

Only same as England Rugby who refuse to pick players who naff off to play for bigger money in France.

Edited April 29, 2016 by AJK86

[Steve Shovlar]

SS if you have a go at him in Cardiff can you film it please??

Why not? Its not having a go at him its making it known that snubbing EL is not the way a British WC should act

[LisaColette]

I don't comprehend why Tai not riding in the UK is such a big deal to some of you. It's ridiculous the stuff a number of you are posting. He doesn't currently ride in the UK, so bleedin' what? It's as if your lives are being ruled by this rather insignificant thing. So very sad.

 

As for the arrogance, that's a trait a world beater needs! However, just ask Great Ormond Street if they think he's arrogant when away from the track...

I don't agree, you don't need to be arrogant, I don't think Loram was. Nicki is a bit but think it is a bit of an act, whereas it is Tai's actual personality.

[Steve0]

Why not? Its not having a go at him its making it known that snubbing EL is not the way a British WC should act

In your opinion!!

[BWitcher]

It's a matter of principle, an alien concept these days to many.

 

He's a British World Champion and could do so much for British Speedway by showing his true loyalty to it. I cannot see the Poles or Swedes tolerating a Swedish or Polish World Champion failing to ride in their leagues or national championships. The Aussies seem to tolerate it though. Could that be where Tai's 'inspiration' has come from?

 

Tai's in an unusual situation where he had a choice of nation to represent internationally, British by birth, Australian by long-term residence.

 

Choosing Britain gave him certain advantages - but it comes with a price.

 

Loyalty, it's a two-way street.

 

Rubbish is it a matter of principle.

 

Speedway is his career, his job. It's a short career that could end tomorrow. It is up to him to make as much money as he can during that period, be as successful as he can whilst maintaining some form of balance to actually enjoy it.

 

Would you want someone dictating to you who you should work for, where you should work? Telling you that you should still be working for your first employer because they helped train you, even though it might be for much less money, with far more travelling and costs involved? Of course you wouldn't!

[Star Lady]

SS if you have a go at him in Cardiff can you film it please??

 

Doubt the BSPA would object to you putting it on periscope

[Steve Shovlar]

 

Rubbish is it a matter of principle.

 

Speedway is his career, his job. It's a short career that could end tomorrow. It is up to him to make as much money as he can during that period, be as successful as he can whilst maintaining some form of balance to actually enjoy it.

 

Would you want someone dictating to you who you should work for, where you should work? Telling you that you should still be working for your first employer because they helped train you, even though it might be for much less money, with far more travelling and costs involved? Of course you wouldn't!

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This principle doesnt work because he is not a bus driver or table clearer at McDonalds. He is a sportsman with fans. There are other responsibilities to take into consideraton.

[RobMcCaffery]

Much has been made of the punishing schedule required to trace in Britain so I just took a look at Wolverhampton's fixture list. In most months it's five meetings per month, in one case it's six. In Poland or Sweden it's four or five meetings a month. Okay, the British fixtures are on varying days but it's hardly an overwhelming difference - unless you want it to be.