BWitcher Posted April 26, 2016 Report Share Posted April 26, 2016 Depends... I guess if they were playing England and then you only sang the Portuguese one ..people might take issue with it . What if he doesn't believe in God and is anti-royalist? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted April 26, 2016 Report Share Posted April 26, 2016 this is weird...agreeing with BW on one thread, disagreeing on another over same rider!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted April 26, 2016 Report Share Posted April 26, 2016 this is weird...agreeing with BW on one thread, disagreeing on another over same rider!! Which is fair enough, at least you can distinguish between two totally separate things, unlike some! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted April 26, 2016 Report Share Posted April 26, 2016 Sometimes in life you have to make sacrifices to achieve your goals. To be the best in the world, Woffy is sacrificing the EL (his last season in 2014 shows how much he was struggling here) and I think that is the right thing for him. Shame we can't see him here on a regular basis and will only see him in the SGPs and SWC (if you have BT Sport) but I can live with that to see him representing GB at the highest level. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Science Posted April 26, 2016 Report Share Posted April 26, 2016 Unbelievable your comments about Tai, firstly he IS British end of. He's a double world champion & IMO a million light years in front of his current rivals, he gives all for team GB, did you watch his performance in Denmark last year ? I was there & his riding made me very proud to be British with the commitment he shoed, You go on about the Ben Fund, he was at Leicester when he was World Champion! All what he has done for charity is remarkable & regarding turning his back on the EL. I can fully understand why, its his business that can come to a abrupt end, just look at Darcy! so he would be a fool not to go where its most lucrative. for one when I go to Belle Vue for the British Final totally understand why Tai is not competing. So what reason for Tai deciding to miss the British Final do you totally understand ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted April 26, 2016 Report Share Posted April 26, 2016 So what reason for Tai deciding to miss the British Final do you totally understand ? What part of Tai isn't in the British Final don't you understand? He would have to race in the semi-finals, which are the day before and day after a GP. The day after he's contracted to ride and no GP rider with the aim of being World Champion is going to ride the night before in another country. Now, if the BSPA had said they were willing to seed him direct to the final and he still didn't ride, I'd be more inclined to see your point of view. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted April 26, 2016 Report Share Posted April 26, 2016 Yeah, I've noticed his rather one minded view. One day he might actually sensibly justify it. One day you will wake up and British speedway is an amateur sport and you will then look back at this crucial time for the sport and you may even think of what a British world champion could of done for British speedway. Do you think the British media will be interested in covering the British final without the British world champion ? They may even be negative about the sport, you and a few others don't see the damage tai not riding will have on this years British final,it's not good for the sport. But hey I am a tai hater as you say when in fact I am a fan of his racing but not the way he acts so not completely true. British Speedway is in a mess and tai is not helping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted April 26, 2016 Report Share Posted April 26, 2016 One day you will wake up and British speedway is an amateur sport and you will then look back at this crucial time for the sport and you may even think of what a British world champion could of done for British speedway. Do you think the British media will be interested in covering the British final without the British world champion ? They may even be negative about the sport, you and a few others don't see the damage tai not riding will have on this years British final,it's not good for the sport. But hey I am a tai hater as you say when in fact I am a fan of his racing but not the way he acts so not completely true. British Speedway is in a mess and tai is not helping. British speedway is in a mess and the BSPA aren't helping. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted April 26, 2016 Report Share Posted April 26, 2016 British speedway is in a mess and the BSPA aren't helping. As long as fans allow the bspa and riders to mess the sport up, then the sport will soon be lost for good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sommelier Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 So what reason for Tai deciding to miss the British Final do you totally understand ?Bwitcher answer perfectly explains why! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4gillian Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 One day you will wake up and British speedway is an amateur sport and you will then look back at this crucial time for the sport and you may even think of what a British world champion could of done for British speedway. Do you think the British media will be interested in covering the British final without the British world champion ? They may even be negative about the sport, you and a few others don't see the damage tai not riding will have on this years British final,it's not good for the sport. But hey I am a tai hater as you say when in fact I am a fan of his racing but not the way he acts so not completely true. British Speedway is in a mess and tai is not helping. You seem to blame everything wrong with speedway in this country on Tai. He is NOT the reason speedway is on a serious decline so for pity's sake stop saying that he is. If you take a step back and think about things rationally you might just come up with numerous credible reasons for the decline, not one of them having to do with Tai! Tai (like others on here who have reiterated) has fully explained his reasons for not riding in the British final. You take exception to that (for some unknown reason) which is your prerogative, but you don't need to be posting the same thing time and time again on thread after thread. WE GET IT! Tai does not currently ride in the EL - just accept it. Tai will not be riding in the British Final - just accept it. Tai (like a long list of other world class riders) did not ride in the Ben Fun Bonanza - just accept it. And Tai is the best we (NOT Australia) have by a country mile - just accept it FFS! And relax 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 One day you will wake up and British speedway is an amateur sport If that's the case then absolutely no reason for a professional like Woffinden to be riding here then is there! You've just shot yourself down in flames. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liam Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 Would British speedway look after Tai if he injured himself and couldn't ride again? It's a short career and I'll not have a pop at anyone for wanting to make as much money as they can in a short career when they are risking their life every race. I think he should ride in the British final but he's not, it's not really the end of the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted April 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 Would British speedway look after Tai if he injured himself and couldn't ride again? It's a short career and I'll not have a pop at anyone for wanting to make as much money as they can in a short career when they are risking their life every race. I think he should ride in the British final but he's not, it's not really the end of the world. You're right, he should be in the British Final but he isn't & wasn't allowed. He had to be at either Semi Final's on dates that just don't work for his calendar. 1 is on GP practice Friday & the other is on the Sunday he's scheduled to race for Wroclaw. It just isn't plausible to expect a GP championship contender to drop Friday practice or break the terms of his Polish contract. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 You're right, he should be in the British Final but he isn't & wasn't allowed. He had to be at either Semi Final's on dates that just don't work for his calendar. 1 is on GP practice Friday & the other is on the Sunday he's scheduled to race for Wroclaw. It just isn't plausible to expect a GP championship contender to drop Friday practice or break the terms of his Polish contract. It's not Wroclaw he's riding for, its the meeting at Wroclaw stadium on the Sunday that was arranged as a form of compensation for the debacle of last years GP. The point still remains though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyderd Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 One day you will wake up and British speedway is an amateur sport and you will then look back at this crucial time for the sport and you may even think of what a British world champion could of done for British speedway. Do you think the British media will be interested in covering the British final without the British world champion ? They may even be negative about the sport, you and a few others don't see the damage tai not riding will have on this years British final,it's not good for the sport. But hey I am a tai hater as you say when in fact I am a fan of his racing but not the way he acts so not completely true. British Speedway is in a mess and tai is not helping. blah,blah,blah,blah. Give it a rest now Robert, it's getting a tad boring. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 If that's the case then absolutely no reason for a professional like Woffinden to be riding here then is there! You've just shot yourself down in flames. It's still currently classed as a professional sport and in Britain we have the ELITE league so he should be riding in it. Wanting One set night is a weak excuse. Do you not think he would be good for British speedway and improve the crowds and profile ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 It's still currently classed as a professional sport and in Britain we have the ELITE league so he should be riding in it. Wanting One set night is a weak excuse. Do you not think he would be good for British speedway and improve the crowds and profile ? No, don't think he would make any difference to attendances etc, Leagues would still be dreadfully run, im not convinced a thing would change (Never has before) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 No, don't think he would make any difference to attendances etc, Leagues would still be dreadfully run, im not convinced a thing would change (Never has before) I agree the league is a real mess but I think with a good PR person tai would bring in big crowds in the uk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted April 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 I agree the league is a real mess but I think with a good PR person tai would bring in big crowds in the uk. Good PR person or not, Tai is not and should not be solely responsible for bringing the crowds back. This is for British Speedway i.e. the BSPA to deliver on that front. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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