Starman2006 Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 (edited) 3 times?! Jesus. Thats impressive. To make a mistake once is bad, twice is stupid. 3 times is unforgivable. In your opinion, how many times should they be allowed to dig it up and relay to get it right before we can deem it a farce? this 4th time now? The 5th time next week? The 8th time in May? I just hope they havn't got the same contractors doing this who do our motorways !!! Or it will be, oh ang on, we will have to extend it a bit, we have to do something else ... Christmas is coming... I said ages ago, the only way they will solve this is to completely pull the whole bend up and completely relay it from scratch. Edited April 22, 2016 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 (edited) Morrisey Fan Nobody has been given a Stadium. The promotion has taken on a lease for the facility which amounts to something like I think over £50k a year. Edited April 22, 2016 by Tsunami Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Hunter Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 The original unusual suspect chimes up again, lol! Oh, the irony... Your recent contributions on this subject have been remarkably obtuse and like most of the loudest gobshytes you've trotted out all sorts of claptrap as though you know what you are talking about. Talking about yourself again, I see. Ever thought about a career in politics? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a4poster Posted April 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 Make it ten days now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.V 72 Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 Make it ten days now! Good god you have a cracking postal service if your post arrives before 01.13 am every day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 (edited) I'm guessing it will be 11 tomorrow being Sunday and all. In all seriousness you should have it this week and if not I'd chase it up. Edited April 23, 2016 by ouch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Brown Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 Surely with several thousand potential refunds they would have made sure they had extra staff to cover it ? For gods sake I had my own business for 20+ years, if I run it like them I wouldn't have lasted 6 months They of course managed to have enough people to take the money in the first place I have given up on the sport over recent years but this one really sums up everything that is so wrong 1. Failed to take any responsibility 2. Blamed contractors but I suspect had the meeting been a success would have gloried in the credit and not mentioned the contractors at that point 3. Failed to process refunds 4. Still want to blame everyone apart from themselves Its a pitiful position to take and really is about time them took bleeding responsibility. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 They of course managed to have enough people to take the money in the first place I have given up on the sport over recent years but this one really sums up everything that is so wrong 1. Failed to take any responsibility 2. Blamed contractors but I suspect had the meeting been a success would have gloried in the credit and not mentioned the contractors at that point 3. Failed to process refunds 4. Still want to blame everyone apart from themselves Its a pitiful position to take and really is about time them took bleeding responsibility. 1. Why take responsibly when its been made clear it wasn't their fault? 2. Pointless. I think they would have given all the credit to the contractors, but like you I'm guessing and making things up, so its pointless. 3. Factually incorrect. 4. They have only blamed the people at fault. Is that not the correct thing to do? They have not blamed the riders, fans, caterers, security etc so they have not blamed everyone at all and you are again incorrect. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 They of course managed to have enough people to take the money in the first place I don't think you've thought that one through, much like the rest of your points. When did the tickets go on sale and for how long? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 Thank you ouch and Aces5, I couldnt be bothered answering myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a4poster Posted April 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Eleven days now and counting... Perhaps I wouldn't feel so aggrieved if it wasn't for the 500 mile round trip, hotel and £90 rail fare on a track that with the subsequent delay was never even close to racing on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 I can understand your frustration but even for Belle Vue the Royal Mail do not deliver on Sundays. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 1. Why take responsibly when its been made clear it wasn't their fault? The sport will never improve whilst speedway fans continue to apologise for the incompetent way in which the sport is run. There are undoubtedly several parties that have screwed up, but the bottom line is the promotion is ultimately responsible for the project management and ensuring the track is fit for purpose. They are certainly responsible for attempting to go ahead with a meeting when there were known to be significant problems with the track and possibly other things as well. The fans pay their money to the promotion - that's all we need to know. Speedway promotions seem incapable of taking responsibility for the meetings they put on, and only that, genuinely seem to believe they shouldn't be responsible. Witness all the buck passing over the GP failures over the years (and BTW - is Speedsport doing the track at Warsaw again after all the talk of legal consequences). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 It makes you wonder why Alan "Doc" Bridgett and Colin Meredith and SCB referee Graham Flint and David Gordon and Chris Morton and (immediately after the track walk/inspection) Tia Woffinden and Nicki Pedersen and the other 16 riders including Richie Worrall and Max Fricke who has ridden the track at length the day before and Breedon aggregated (shale supplier) and Mark Lemon and everybody else I've missed out didn't say the meeting should definitely be off before we all got let in. It's almost as if (I'm going to go out on a limb here folks) they ALL thought there was a more than good chance of the meeting going ahead. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophykid Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Refund received in the post Saturday morning. Very relieved to see it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notenoughnerve Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 The sport will never improve whilst speedway fans continue to apologise for the incompetent way in which the sport is run. There are undoubtedly several parties that have screwed up, but the bottom line is the promotion is ultimately responsible for the project management and ensuring the track is fit for purpose. They are certainly responsible for attempting to go ahead with a meeting when there were known to be significant problems with the track and possibly other things as well. The fans pay their money to the promotion - that's all we need to know. Speedway promotions seem incapable of taking responsibility for the meetings they put on, and only that, genuinely seem to believe they shouldn't be responsible. Witness all the buck passing over the GP failures over the years (and BTW - is Speedsport doing the track at Warsaw again after all the talk of legal consequences). How many times can it be said. The bottom line is Belle Vue weren't in charge of the whole project. Manchester City Council were. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 The moaners are probably meek and feeble henpecked husbands, the car goes in for a service but it comes back late and the wife blames them and they meekly accept it, the washing machine needs fixing and the man can't come till next week, more henpecking 'yes dear'. These poor souls have never known anything else, even the language used in their gormless moaning mimics what a caricature battleaxe woman would use when berating the poor unfortunate spouse for something he just has no control over. They just see this forum as their opportunity to somehow redress the balance in their sad lives. Thanks for that Andy (Capp). Florrie would love you for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 The bottom line is Belle Vue weren't in charge of the whole project. Manchester City Council were. The bottom line is that Belle Vue are responsible for putting on the meetings and deciding to take the money of paying punters. In hindsight it was too optimistic to run a high-profile meeting with such little testing of a new track and facilities as well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 The bottom line is that Belle Vue are responsible for putting on the meetings and deciding to take the money of paying punters. In hindsight it was too optimistic to run a high-profile meeting with such little testing of a new track and facilities as well. Everything is easy with hindsight Humphrey. I can understand their enthusiasm for getting the Meeting on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 (edited) Everything is easy with hindsight Humphrey. I can understand their enthusiasm for getting the Meeting on. Despite being advised not to? Edited April 25, 2016 by Steve Park Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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