racers and royals Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 Pawel Przedelpski crash https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcqN-arZB_M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Science Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 Sure we will see some T shirts at Cardiff ' I survived the World U21 at Kings Lynn ' 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 Full meeting video - 4 hrs 27 mins !!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNfytyLZgq8&feature=youtu.be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 (edited)  Exactly. At least those of us watching online can keep each other entertained, poor sods who paid £20 are bored stiff with nothing going on in the gaps. Actually we were talking to each other, can't help crashes, have to be expected with Under 21s. One sport are the promoters ..... Edited June 19, 2016 by Trees 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 For someone who was actually here, I can fully appreciate the issues of a long drawn out meeting. It would be difficult to apportion blame on a specific reason. Yes the track was very grippy, yes, the riders were riding above themselves, yes they wanted to perform in a world championship, but there can be no excuses for some of crashes that happened last night. Some were Kami-Karci manoeuvres When sky are in town , they take control of the meeting, but last night the Polish Tele didn't appear to have that power.. They were there televising the event. So no blame can be put their way. The biggest culprit has to be the Referee. he never once showed any urgency or common sense. When he did press the 2min buzzer he got the biggest cheer of the night . Buster didn't help things along with his lengthy grade grades. The meeting needn't someone to push the proceedings along but sadly it didn't happen. Robert Lambert, didn't win, but he, more than most, keep the poor crowd entertained. This meeting did the sport more harm than good. Â Total Shambles....... Â Â PS : 2 years back I criticised the Brandonapolis meeting for going on till 11pm, saying never again. But this was even worse.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 These were the 3 people in charge of the meeting who in theory could have had some influence on speeding up the running of it FIM Jury President: Jan STAECHMANN FMN: DMUFIM Referee: Christian FROSCHAUER FMN: DMSBFMNR Jury Member: Graham REEVE FMN: ACU 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 Well the morning after the night before and my verdict. Â Some cracking racing which I thoroughly enjoyed. Â Some very long unnecessary delays which I didn't. Â Ref was shocking with his amnesia as to the whereabouts of the 2 min button. Couple of decisions I disagreed with too. Â Whoever was in charge of running the meeting should never be allowed to do so again. Â Well done Robert Lambert, not only a brilliant talent but unlike some of the others riding last night has got a good head on his shoulders and realises you don't have to do all the work on the 1st and 2nd bend the race lasts 4 laps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryce Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 Â they weren't allowed, has to be after each block of 4 races or not fair Understood. I didn't know about that rule. I imagine it had the promotors pulling their hair out though after all the delays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 Well the morning after the night before and my verdict. Â Some cracking racing which I thoroughly enjoyed. Â Some very long unnecessary delays which I didn't. Â Ref was shocking with his amnesia as to the whereabouts of the 2 min button. Couple of decisions I disagreed with too. Â Whoever was in charge of running the meeting should never be allowed to do so again. Â Well done Robert Lambert, not only a brilliant talent but unlike some of the others riding last night has got a good head on his shoulders and realises you don't have to do all the work on the 1st and 2nd bend the race lasts 4 laps. Lambert is a real talent has a real racing brain that move and cut back on Riss was superb. Pieszczek is a very nice fast rider, reminds me style wise like Magic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 These were the 3 people in charge of the meeting who in theory could have had some influence on speeding up the running of it FIM Jury President: Jan STAECHMANN FMN: DMUFIM Referee: Christian FROSCHAUER FMN: DMSBFMNR Jury Member: Graham REEVE FMN: ACU[/size][/size][/size] Â I would say that from that bunch only Froschauer/ref has any influence on how the meeting moves on. Clerk of the course has the most influence and is usually "a local". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrss Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 Good meeting with some good races. Spoiled by the endless crashes and the track grading after every four heats. The crowd was no bigger than a Stars elite league meeting. It seems people are not interested in the under twenty ones . I convinced the wife to attend with me only her second meeting in three years. Due the finishing time it will be a long time before she goes again. Well done to Lambert on a good second place on the rostrum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelvinht Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 That was a late night. Enjoyed it if a bit stop start due to all the falls. Lambert was a brave man going off gate 4 in the final. as he didn't quite get across he had no options, another lap and he might have got win. Hope none of injuries too serious. It's easy to sit at home and moan... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagonshocker Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 Sure we will see some T shirts at Cardiff ' I survived the World U21 at Kings Lynn ' That's brilliant! Would expect to see some wearing one at Cardiff now!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iand Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 How old are Lambert and pieszczek ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sommelier Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 For someone who was actually here, I can fully appreciate the issues of a long drawn out meeting. It would be difficult to apportion blame on a specific reason. Yes the track was very grippy, yes, the riders were riding above themselves, yes they wanted to perform in a world championship, but there can be no excuses for some of crashes that happened last night. Some were Kami-Karci manoeuvres When sky are in town , they take control of the meeting, but last night the Polish Tele didn't appear to have that power.. They were there televising the event. So no blame can be put their way. The biggest culprit has to be the Referee. he never once showed any urgency or common sense. When he did press the 2min buzzer he got the biggest cheer of the night . Buster didn't help things along with his lengthy grade grades. The meeting needn't someone to push the proceedings along but sadly it didn't happen. Robert Lambert, didn't win, but he, more than most, keep the poor crowd entertained. This meeting did the sport more harm than good. Â Total Shambles....... Â Â PS : 2 years back I criticised the Brandonapolis meeting for going on till 11pm, saying never again. But this was even worse.... Well having attended the meeting last night I can't agree with any of your comments. First you say the track was to grippy & then moan about Buster long track grades! Some excellent close racing & IMO pleased I made the journey 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 (edited) Â When sky are in town , they take control of the meeting, but last night the Polish Tele didn't appear to have that power.. They were there televising the event. So no blame can be put their way. It wasn't Polish TV, just a video company. They don't carry the same 'clout' and in any case they had their own problems Edited June 19, 2016 by rmc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 (edited) Well having attended the meeting last night I can't agree with any of your comments. First you say the track was to grippy & then moan about Buster long track grades! Some excellent close racing & IMO pleased I made the journey  When a meeting takes as long as that did last night, then you look at all the reasons why. 4half hrs to run any meeting is rediculous. It started at 7.15 and come 8 oclock we'd only had 3 races. That in itself was alarming, but there was no urgency shown by anyone. 8.15, 4 heats gone, 19 to go, and Buster spends 10 mins on the tractor. Another hours passes, 9.15. we are only on ht 7. Lambert has been waiting 2 hrs for his second ride. 9.30. we've had 8 heats, Buster does another track grade. Instead of just one tractor, why not use 2 or three to push proceedings along. The referee was always reluctant to press that 2 mins buzzer, it was left to the pit manager to get the riders out for the next race. it was taking forever.... The ambulance delay in heat 12 was unfortunate, Hate to see people get hurt. The announcement that we were going to forgo the interval, but we had 12 mins of Buster track grading on his own instead. . Its way past 11 when the 20 heats had finished. then we had to endure the gate selection process. When the final race finished, the time was 11.39pm.  I'm so pleased you made the journey. Yes there were some good races, close races. and Lambert was supreme. Unfortunately he missed out on the final by a whisker, but he more than anybody else kept the local fans from going home. Standing 4half hrs watching 23 races that cost a premium is not my idea of good speedway. To put this into some sort of prospective, this meeting lasted as long as 3 football matches,  I bet there were more people pleased they didn't go last night, than those that did....... It wasn't Polish TV, just a video company. They don't carry the same 'clout' and in any case they had their own problems Just saying you couldn't put any blame on them for the slow progress. Edited June 19, 2016 by GRW123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 Any one spot what engines Lambert was using last night? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 Any one spot what engines Lambert was using last night? Â No but he's recently purchased B.A.R. motors so imagine it'll have been those Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sommelier Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 Any one spot what engines Lambert was using last night? Was on GM, Riss used a GR for one ride Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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