Dandelion Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Can somebody explain these to me? I'm at a loss, is there a website that will explain them? Bartosz Zmarzlik comes in on a 6.50 a few years ago So why is Kacper Wornya on a 4.00 How does this work for all nationalities, thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 ..because Woryna isn't as good as Zmarzlik, and hadn't ridden at the same level in Poland or internationally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Woryna hasn't rode in the top division in Poland before this season hence the 4pt average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naffer Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 And here is me thinking somebody from the BSPA did it by sticking their fingers in their ears and going ting a ling a loo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandelion Posted April 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Oh I see, I thought maybe they were making it up as they go along again, I wish the rules would be more simple!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 (edited) Oh I see, I thought maybe they were making it up as they go along again, I wish the rules would be more simple!! The problem is that if the rules were simple you'd end up with Artem Laguta and Peter Karger on the same assessed average. So clearly we need different rules for different categories of rider. And because the range of situations varies quite a lot, they have to go into quite a lot of detail. And even then they still throw up problems (Brady Kurtz anyone?) Here they are: ELITE LEAGUE 7.3 RIDERS MATCH AVERAGES (see Art. 16.2 for Definitions) and GRADINGS 17.3.1 Riders new to Elite League racing are categorised as follows: Cat 1: Riders with an “end of the previous season’s published average” in the Danish Speedway League, Polish Ekstraliga, Swedish Elitserien or any other Professional Speedway League, and any rider who is subject to a Certificate of Sponsorship, without an established MA from another BSPA Professional League, Cat 2: Riders not riding in a Professional League (ie. Denmark,Poland & Sweden) 17.3.2 The Assessed MA's for new Riders to the EL racing is: Cat 1 Riders will be assessed on a “Grading List”, based upon results obtained in all other Professional Speedway Leagues and given an Assessed MA accordingly Cat 2 4.00 PREMIER LEAGUE 18.6.1 Riders new to Premier League racing are categorised as follows: Cat 1: Riders with an “end of the previous season’s published average” in the Danish Speedway League, Polish Ekstraliga or Swedish Elitserien of above 6.00 points including riders subject to a Certificate of Sponsorship. Cat 2: Riders with an “end of the previous season’s published average” in the Danish Speedway League, Polish Ekstraliga or Swedish Elitserien of 6.00 and below plus ALL other riders riding currently in any Professional Speedway League, Cat 3: Riders not riding in a Professional League (ie.Denmark, Poland & Sweden) Cat 4: Riders who are eligible to ride in the National Development League. 18.6.2 The Assessed MA's for new Riders to the PL racing is: Cat 1 8.00 Cat 2 7.00 Cat 3 5.00 Cat 4 3.00 I seem to recall that Peter Oakes was involved in making the judgements on 17.3.2 category 1 riders. These could be clearer, for example what does "any other Professional Speedway League" cover? Edited April 11, 2016 by arnieg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 Oh I see, I thought maybe they were making it up as they go along again, I wish the rules would be more simple!! They basically do when assessing foreigners for the EL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 When assessing foreign riders it depends on what club Dennis dangerous Andersson was a 5.00 for anyone who wanted him.................but 4.00 if it was Poole 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 When assessing foreign riders it depends on what club Dennis dangerous Andersson was a 5.00 for anyone who wanted him.................but 4.00 if it was Poole and that was no joke! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naffer Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 When assessing foreign riders it depends on what club Dennis dangerous Andersson was a 5.00 for anyone who wanted him.................but 4.00 if it was Poole Yes I remember that but I think the problem was a Wessex 4.00 looks like a 5.00 everywhere else in the shire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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