Grachan Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Its not difficult to find out there actual EL average most club websites had draft riders rolling EL average listed. So? They never got official averages and that was made clear from the start. So it's obvious they can't use EL averages. Because they don't have one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Maybe you are not aware but i resigned from promoting 3 seasons ago. At that time kings lynn had finished in the play offs in it's first two seasons of elite league racing, and prior to that we had won 9 Major Premier League competitions in the previous 5 year's. Therefore, may i ask what i have my self to blame for and what rod i have made for my own back? Begs the question why you packed up then. Surely you do not change a winning formula. If its not broke, you don't fix it. May i ask you why you gave up promoting ?. Because it seems the majority do not have the desire ambition nor interest to put together a side capable of wiinning a league and competing with us, Every club has the same opportunities in the Winter to sign riders, everybody starts at nought. You know Matt, he chucks his net far and wide, thats his job, and he does it very well thats why the clubs very successful. But it doesn't just stop there the whole club has that winning ethic, we don't want to finish second, nobody remembers runners up. Yes sponsorship plays a big part in Speedway, Matt works very hard retain and attract new sponsors, and everybody wants to be associated with a winning club/ team, again thats up to other clubs to do the same. Although you have to give BV there due they pushed us last season, and to be honest, we would love to see other sides be competitive and do the same, but thats there look out, not Poole speedways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 (edited) ........SCB............At the same time, Ford text Kildemand and told him Coventry had dropped him (technically true, but only for a few seconds) and asking if he wanted to sign for Poole so Kildemand agreed to sign for Poole thinking he'd been dropped. Ford rather than re-declaring the second Coventry re-declarion redeclared the Poole team with Kildemand in. Great detailed post as usual SCB and I'm obviously not going to quote the whole lot but I'm interested in this bit because I thought Kildemand didn't even know Poole had signed him but you say he agreed. ......Starman2006........ But it doesn't just stop there the whole club has that winning ethic, we don't want to finish second, nobody remembers runners up. Oh yes they do. Even I can remember who were runners up in 2010. Edited April 10, 2016 by Gemini 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game On Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Great detailed post as usual SCB and I'm obviously not going to quote the whole lot but I'm interested in this bit because I thought Kildemand didn't even know Poole had signed him but you say he agreed. Oh yes they do. Even I can remember who were runners up in 2010. Me too as I enjoyed watching it again today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theboss Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 (edited) Begs the question why you packed up then. Surely you do not change a winning formula. If its not broke, you don't fix it. May i ask you why you gave up promoting ?. Because it seems the majority do not have the desire ambition nor interest to put together a side capable of wiinning a league and competing with us, Every club has the same opportunities in the Winter to sign riders, everybody starts at nought. You know Matt, he chucks his net far and wide, thats his job, and he does it very well thats why the clubs very successful. But it doesn't just stop there the whole club has that winning ethic, we don't want to finish second, nobody remembers runners up. Yes sponsorship plays a big part in Speedway, Matt works very hard retain and attract new sponsors, and everybody wants to be associated with a winning club/ team, again thats up to other clubs to do the same. Although you have to give BV there due they pushed us last season, and to be honest, we would love to see other sides be competitive and do the same, but thats there look out, not Poole speedways. So you answer a question with a question and then go on to tell me how Poole speedway is the epicentre of the universe. I think once again you have proved you have nothing to offer to ANY discussion on this forum. Edited April 10, 2016 by jchapman 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game On Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 So you answer a question with a question and then go on to tell me how Poole speedway is the epicentre of the universe. I think once again you have proved you have noting to offer to ANY discussion on this forum. Proves one thing he's a clown 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebee Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 The same old crap in defence of Ford from the blue tinted ones. To paraphrase: if only all promoters were like Ford and cared sod all for the sport then we would have a lovely level playing field. SCB has done a fine job of detailing the manipulations of the Poole promotion. There has not been a single rebuttal or argument to deny the fact that consistent regulation changes have favoured Poole. You can't blame Sandhu for turning his back on the sport. Let's face it, the days of Elite speedway are numbered and the countdown was started some time ago on the south coast. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Yeah, very odd. No idea why/how. If Ford can turn Frost it does make you think he's capable of turning most to back him! But how?! Maybe he`s just good at what he does, look after Poole Speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 (edited) So? They never got official averages and that was made clear from the start. So it's obvious they can't use EL averages. Because they don't have one. So lets use averages from another league? Makes complete sense! Edited April 10, 2016 by woz01 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Clemens Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Surely the fact that Matt Ford has no sympathy - is irrelevant to the death of British Speedway, by definition. Most people don't have sympathy for organisations that bring about their own destruction. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 So lets use averages from another league? Makes complete sense! Of course if it had suited Poole ...I suspect there would have been a rule change using the el ones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Begs the question why you packed up then. Surely you do not change a winning formula. If its not broke, you don't fix it. May i ask you why you gave up promoting ?. Because it seems the majority do not have the desire ambition nor interest to put together a side capable of wiinning a league and competing with us, Every club has the same opportunities in the Winter to sign riders, everybody starts at nought. You know Matt, he chucks his net far and wide, thats his job, and he does it very well thats why the clubs very successful. But it doesn't just stop there the whole club has that winning ethic, we don't want to finish second, nobody remembers runners up. Yes sponsorship plays a big part in Speedway, Matt works very hard retain and attract new sponsors, and everybody wants to be associated with a winning club/ team, again thats up to other clubs to do the same. Although you have to give BV there due they pushed us last season, and to be honest, we would love to see other sides be competitive and do the same, but thats there look out, not Poole speedways. and yet again you fail to answer somebody's question and instead go on and on about wonderful Poole and everything revolves around Poole totally failing to get the point you were asked by Mr Chapman. Do yourself and everyone on this forum and just eff off and let the adults chat. I'm sure Mr Chapman will give you a great reply!! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damosuzuki Posted April 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Ford probably realises that if Poole start losing all the fairweather fans from JP Morgan etc will disappear so does anything he can to stop that happening. The Statman's of the world are not enough to keep the club going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 and yet again you fail to answer somebody's question and instead go on and on about wonderful Poole and everything revolves around Poole totally failing to get the point you were asked by Mr Chapman. Do yourself and everyone on this forum and just eff off and let the adults chat. I'm sure Mr Chapman will give you a great reply!! Do yourself a favour Gavan & just put him on ignore, yes you'll get a lot of people replying to his posts & you have to choose whether to read them or not. He simply has nothing to add to the discussions on this forum or the intelligence to answer a question that is asked. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 (edited) So you answer a question with a question and then go on to tell me how Poole speedway is the epicentre of the universe. I think once again you have proved you have nothing to offer to ANY discussion on this forum. I personally don't care what you or anybody thinks on this forum, i asked you a question to yours and you failed to answer it. So ive done my bit. Matt works dam hard for the good of Poole speedway, what others do its not of pooles concern. But if they do not have the desire to put teams together to challenge us then thats not our problem. Edited April 10, 2016 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 I personally don't care what you or anybody thinks on this forum, i asked you a question to yours and you failed to answer it. So ive done my bit. why even be on here then? its a DISCUSSION forum, and if you dont care what anyone else thinks how can you have a discussion with them? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Panda Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Ford probably realises that if Poole start losing all the fairweather fans from JP Morgan etc will disappear so does anything he can to stop that happening. The Statman's of the world are not enough to keep the club going. Sorry what have JP Morgan or any other company got to do with Poole Speedway............. RP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 (edited) why even be on here then? its a DISCUSSION forum, and if you dont care what anyone else thinks how can you have a discussion with them? Yes its a discussion forum, but half of you don't have the abillity to discuss. You just turn it into a slanging match.. So whats the point, i'l make my points if you don't like what i write then don't respond, simple really. Edited April 10, 2016 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 Nothing RP. most of their employees work evening shifts so can't attend anyway!!! :-) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Nick Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 I was quite enjoying reading this thread, good points raised and discussed, but hey ho back to normal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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