dump that clutch Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 You know better than me then, can you tell me you can get 3 into 2 ? Hmm. Get your ass down to the stadium and look yourself. Totally cluelss arn't you.. More drivel from the king of drivel. You want to try and prove me wrong as well then.. King of drivel.. my first post on this matter and I'm a king.. very flattered to receive such a high accolade You're a comedy genius kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4gillian Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 (edited) You know better than me then, can you tell me you can get 3 into 2 ? Hmm. Get your ass down to the stadium and look yourself. Totally cluelss arn't you.. More drivel from the king of drivel. You want to try and prove me wrong as well then.. Did you actually write that??? Totally and completely clueless as always. King of drivel.. my first post on this matter and I'm a king.. very flattered to receive such a high accolade You're a comedy genius kid. Oi! Stop nicking my accolade from the trainspotter! Edited April 27, 2016 by chris4gillian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourentee Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 I'm not sure if that would be feasible, depending on the complicity of any scheme. Not the first time we've seen complicity on a Poole thread... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Coventry winning the EL play-offs at Poole in 2010 is probably a good place to start. That night Poole turned the hot water off in the showers, refused to give Coventry any champagne and didn't use the fireworks. So obviously Matt was a little upset.But I doubt it was just about losing that night. It goes back a little more than that though. Coventry had sparingly used Shamek Pawlicki that season, he signed in April but only rode 11 meetings in a season 12 were needed to get an average. Yes some were because he was in U21s and GP qualis but some where very dodgy absences, certainly in August and September as it meant he'd stay in reserve. That upset a few, including Poole but also Swindon as that was one of the tracks Coventry went to without him. The thing is, that season you could use your number 8 (Aaron Summers in Coventrys case) for any rider at any time so Coventry broke no rules. It was just tactics. As a result the BSPa changed the rules so Pawlicki got an average that winter, the rule for averages changed from 12 to 8 but was also retrospective. Every other time the rules on averages change at an AGM it's never been retrospective before (or since - eg rolling averages changed form 28 to 20 meetings but not until the first set of averages). So that upset Coventry. Coventry had also signed Kenni Larsen. The conversion had always been 0.5 but they changed it to 0.6 sighting the case of Holder, Ward and Woffy who 0.6 would have been closer to reality. Which two clubs campaigned most for it? Wolves and Poole! Again, it upset Coventry and at that point dragged Peterborough into it as Sundstroms average went up too. Coventry/Poole bad feeling had been brewing for a while. It was Coventry who accused Poole of cheating in 2009 to get averages down and make changes. Everyone knows they did it, it couldn't be proven. Also throughout 2010 Allen Trump (then Cov promoter) had made many claims against Poole and slagged them off in the press. I said at the time it was a silly thing to do but antagonise Ford and he gets his mates to screw you over. Coventry eventually backed down over walking out when the BSPA agreed that they wouldn't retro-change Pawlickis average but make him a 5 (rather than his original 4 or his attained 6.5). Then in August that year Darcy Ward (Poole) and<cannot be named fore legal reasons> were arrested. At the same time Coventry re-declared their team in two stages. Ford on the BSPA MC accepted the first part (Kildemand and McGowan dropped for little Pawlicki) but didnt allow the second bit of Kildemand in for Josh Auty. That meant Coventry had Auty and Morris (who was unavailable for reasons Matt Ford knew all about) sharing a place. Ford knew Morris was not available so he couldn't possibly ride and that Auty knowing he'd been dropped would tell them to get stuffed (plus stood litle chance of getting there when Coventry only found out at 5.30) meaning Coventry had to go into a meeting with 6 riders. At the same time, Ford text Kildemand and told him Coventry had dropped him (technically true, but only for a few seconds) and asking if he wanted to sign for Poole so Kildemand agreed to sign for Poole thinking he'd been dropped. Ford rather than re-declaring the second Coventry re-declarion redeclared the Poole team with Kildemand in. I've probably missed something out, it was 5 years ago now. Draft riders on PL averages, biggest winner? Poole. The heat leader list that used "feeling" for anyone who rode last year but an exact figure form anyone the year before, magically Krys Buckowski on 6.48 is a second string, Danny King on 6.48 is a heat leader. A few other sub 6.5 riders are heat leaders too. Biggest winner? Poole and one of the Poole/Frost assets. Poole fans will claim he was available to anyone, but was he? Pooles main sponsor own him. What about the year of the two riders over 8? Or the one rider over 8? Or the season that Poole didn't have a ringer moving up from the PL so they changed the PL to EL conversion sighting WARD, HOLDER and Woffinden as reasons why. Two riders that Poole had gained from! Not so much "pro-Poole" but in the winter of 2010 why were the rules change retrospectively that anyone who had raced 8 meetings got an average? Thats never happened before, before once you had an average you kept it. It's not been done that way since. Coventyr had Pawlicki on a 4 but he had only raced 11 meetings so he should stay on 4 but they wanted him to be 6.1 based on his 11 meetings as the new rules said 8 meetings for an average. That would be fine but when rolling averages changed from 28 to 20 meetings they didn't change all riders averages in the winter, they changed them on the first set of GSAs, who gained from that? Poole because Dak North was signed on 6.3 but his 20 meeting average was about 7.8 How about Coventry asking what average Dennis Andersson would come in on and being told 5 only for Poole to sign him a few months later on 4?! TBH 5 was right, as was proven by his 5.5 average. Too many things go Pooles way. And I don't know if thats because Matt Ford has incriminating evidence of wrong doing by others or if the other are all just too thick to realise they're being conned by him. Bump. Because someone asked about text gate and I can't Copy this post to that thread on my phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 And people wonder why fans from all other teams apart from Poole want the low down on the Lindback 7 average ..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Well, if the averages were changed retrospectively from 12 matches to 8 matches, then surely Lindnack's Belle Vue average should now be valid making him lower than 7. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Well, if the averages were changed retrospectively from 12 matches to 8 matches, then surely Lindnack's Belle Vue average should now be valid making him lower than 7. Retrospectively, If the dog hadn't stopped to rubbish he'd caught the rabbit..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Bump. Because someone asked about text gate and I can't Copy this post to that thread on my phone. Ahhh, right, I remember now, had completely forgotten about the "Dropped For 60 Seconds" wasn't it made into a film, and Kildermand played by Angelina Jolie?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 (edited) And people wonder why fans from all other teams apart from Poole want the low down on the Lindback 7 average ..... FULL explanation in Speedway Star this week ... Edited September 21, 2016 by PHILIPRISING 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Ooh you are a tease Philip.......!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 (edited) FULL explanation in Speedway Star this week ... Are your sales down! Nothing to do with a certain seller in Poole i hope! Edited September 21, 2016 by foreverblue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 and from a script prepared by matt ford no doubt...I can see it now ''isnt it a major plus for british speedway to have lindback riding in the play offs?' erm no its another poole fiddle nothing more...yet another on the fly rule to suit one club it stinks and all fans except poole fans are sick of it .. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny the spud Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 and from a script prepared by matt ford no doubt...I can see it now ''isnt it a major plus for british speedway to have lindback riding in the play offs?' erm no its another poole fiddle nothing more...yet another on the fly rule to suit one club it stinks and all fans except poole fans are sick of it .. So you've read it have you ? care to share what it says ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Bump. Because someone asked about text gate and I can't Copy this post to that thread on my phone. Copied to the relevant thread for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Well, if the averages were changed retrospectively from 12 matches to 8 matches, then surely Lindnack's Belle Vue average should now be valid making him lower than 7. But, they have since changed rolling averages from 28 to 20 and NOT done that retrospectively! Consistency eh? Don't you love it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Lindback's average from 10 years ago should have nothing to do with it. It's far too old to use as an assessment for any rider. In that sort of timescale form can and does change. It is more honest, realistic and fair in those circumstances to look at other more relevant factors like being GP rider and current averages achieved in other leagues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dj350z Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 and from a script prepared by matt ford no doubt...I can see it now ''isnt it a major plus for british speedway to have lindback riding in the play offs?' erm no its another poole fiddle nothing more...yet another on the fly rule to suit one club it stinks and all fans except poole fans are sick of it .. I don't think it is all Poole fans to be fair! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimli27 Posted September 24, 2016 Report Share Posted September 24, 2016 Thankyou dj350z i am a Poole fan and i think it was a crafty move by Matt it would be nice to get to the end of a season with no crafty moves whether legal or not it doesnt matter what team it is just that the team that wins does it straight down the line without any grey areas being used 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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