heathen chemistry Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 There you go people, don't have opinion of your own. ask starman what you think, he knows better than you do. And there me thinking I gave up on the sport after Matt Ford signed Kildemand by text and I had to watch a 6 riders team complete a meeting which resulted in 3 heats with only 3 riders. But no, it's because I live in Wales. Clearly in starman World thats miles from anywhere! that was a dark day .....think that was what did it for sandhu , like him or not moneymen like sandhu are desperately needed for speedway to continue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 that was a dark day .....think that was what did it for sandhu , like him or not moneymen like sandhu are desperately needed for speedway to continue If Coventry are not successful in finding a new stadium it's not even a stretch to suggest that Ford is responsible for their demise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solrac Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 Absolute fact. It's not all Ford's fault, but he has played a massive part in it. Feel free to show me that attendances are higher, folk who used to complain haven't deserted the sport and that Poole weren't at the heart of many of the controversies that have driven people away. Succeed in that and you can then claim my post was 'absolute drivel'. You seem to be inferring that the ills of Speedway are mainly due to one man/team. There's a load of reasons why some people don't attend anymore, the least of which (apart from a few forum posters), i'd suggest are to do with Poole. Blaming Ford/Poole just comes across as incoherent rantings and weakens an argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 You seem to be inferring that the ills of Speedway are mainly due to one man/team. There's a load of reasons why some people don't attend anymore, the least of which (apart from a few forum posters), i'd suggest are to do with Poole. Blaming Ford/Poole just comes across as incoherent rantings and weakens an argument. Except it doesn't. The case for the damage that Ford has done to the sport is well documented and grows longer and longer with each passing season. There is nothing 'incoherent' about 10 years plus of history that has led us to this point. I'll leave the weak arguments to yourself as quite frankly, you haven't even presented one. Not that is possible for any sane person with a degree of common sense to deny what history has already written. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 True though, thats the reason you don't go. There you go. He's gone off to sulk, . No he hasnt he has made his point and yet again your complete lack of intellect means you are unable to answer properly and actually have a debate. Those who want to see a Starman meltdown only have to go to the horse racing thread its hilarious. Matt Ford is at the centre of pretty much most controversies over the last 10 years in the sport, you cant hide from that.. Jeez, theres going to be some rows and some very bitter people on here come October... Why is that? Nothing wrong with the team Poole have built this year and the way they have gone about things so far. No issue with Poole winning the league if done properly and i will congratulate Chris4gillian and Lisa-Collette on the success. I wont lie and yes i hope Belle Vue win it. I wont give the Poole and speedway fans any stick as they dont deserve it , but if it happens i will take great pleasure in getting on here and giving you and only you such a torrent of stick i doubt you will show your face Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 True though, thats the reason you don't go. There you go. He's gone off to sulk, .Except it's not is it. What about the years I lived in Coventry and even managed to travel to away meetings?! And Newport home meetings?! Or the previous time I lived back in Wales but still made it to Coventrys home meetings. We have these amazing things now, called cars. It means you can travel long distances in a short time. Amazing things really. I stopped going to away meeting at the start of 2011 after the rubbish in the winter and stopped going altogether after the Kildemand saga. These are facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solrac Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 Except it doesn't. The case for the damage that Ford has done to the sport is well documented and grows longer and longer with each passing season. There is nothing 'incoherent' about 10 years plus of history that has led us to this point. I'll leave the weak arguments to yourself as quite frankly, you haven't even presented one. Not that is possible for any sane person with a degree of common sense to deny what history has already written. I am merely pointing out that the reasons that people don't go to Speedway are likely to be less about Matt Ford/Poole and more general reasons but we are going around in circles here. I'll leave you to your theories. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 (edited) I am merely pointing out that the reasons that people don't go to Speedway are likely to be less about Matt Ford/Poole and more general reasons but we are going around in circles here. I'll leave you to your theories. How can they be theories when there are many, many people who have given those exact reasons. Are they all liars? Of course not everybody who has stopped going to speedway is because of Matt Ford and the stunts he has pulled. There are no doubt other factors involved also with many of those who cite Ford/Poole as their reason for not going anymore but there is absolutely no doubt that he has damaged the sport nationally.. especially with the petty, childish actions in the winter of 2010 and the outright corruptness of the Kildemand saga. When it comes to building teams, he is the best promoter there is. When it comes to promoting his club, he is the best promoter there is. There simply hasn't been need for some off the stunts he has pulled, that's what makes it all the more disappointing. Edited April 12, 2016 by BWitcher 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 Except it's not is it. What about the years I lived in Coventry and even managed to travel to away meetings?! And Newport home meetings?! Or the previous time I lived back in Wales but still made it to Coventrys home meetings. We have these amazing things now, called cars. It means you can travel long distances in a short time. Amazing things really. I stopped going to away meeting at the start of 2011 after the rubbish in the winter and stopped going altogether after the Kildemand saga. These are facts. you mean you actually travel to watch meetings! I live an hour away from Foxhall and it means i have to get in my car and use petrol. Wish i lived in the same town as my club!! Starman again showing his stupidity Used to go to Ipswich Thursday, Hackney Friday, Arena Saturday and Rye House on a Sunday, of which Arena is about half hour away and the closest. No Matt Ford isnt directly 100% responsible for the dwindling crowds but when one team is so dominant and pulled many strokes to get there people get fed up and bored with it and stop going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 I am merely pointing out that the reasons that people don't go to Speedway are likely to be less about Matt Ford/Poole and more general reasons but we are going around in circles here. I'll leave you to your theories. Sadly, it seems they are all the same from that part of the world, alledgedly Ippo fans, but spend there whole time slagging Poole off. No Matt Ford isnt directly 100% responsible for the dwindling crowds but when one team is so dominant and pulled many strokes to get there people get fed up and bored with it and stop going. Problem is, or should i say its not a problem, but we have a bigger fan base than anywhere in the country, so we don't have to beg fans to come and watch us.. Nobody gets bored watching Poole. But you stick to your theories.. I stopped going to away meeting at the start of 2011 after the rubbish in the winter and stopped going altogether after the Kildemand saga. These are facts. Why should the Kildemand saga affect you going to watch Coventry. Smacks as just an excuss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noggin Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 Keep it going lads, this is hilarious...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 No he hasnt he has made his point and yet again your complete lack of intellect means you are unable to answer properly and actually have a debate. Those who want to see a Starman meltdown only have to go to the horse racing thread its hilarious. The only Hilarious person on here is you except your not hilarious, you quite sad. One day you'l stop jumping on every post of mine like an infatuated schoolboy.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countershaftcounter Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 The lovers are arguing again … there goes the thread 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 Why should the Kildemand saga affect you going to watch Coventry. Smacks as just an excuss. Do you really have to ask? I went to a meeting where because your promoter is a jealous, lousy prick I had to watch a team with just 6 riders meaning 3 heats only had 3 riders. My team lost because your promoter used his privileged position to screw up Coventrys team declaration and declare him in his own team. My club just sat back and allowed it to happen. Just what is the point when crap like that is happening? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 (edited) No worse than some of the other promoters.................especially ones who cannot keep their mouths shut and spout off crap about Poole...........Matt has tried to drag the sport into the 21st century with some of his ideas but they have been thrown out because the sport is still living in the past............and people complain that the sport is lagging behind the rest of Europe in particular yet when ideas to move with the times are put forward its a NIMBY attitude from those on the committee............a lot of promoters could learn how to run their team as a business from Matt...........instead of sitting on their backsides waiting for the world to come to them There are two in particular that have posted stuff which in no way is factual..................and tantamount to libel.............unless you were involved in the conversations between Matt Ford and the parties involved then you know nothing............I doubt that those involved have ever spoken to Matt direct about these allegations............and would not have the guts to question him either.............so either put up or shut up............ Well, lets have a look at that drivel you have just posted. In a similar post a few weeks ago you said that other promoters sit on their backsides waiting for the world to come to them. I asked you three times who these other promoters were but you failed to answer. You have now made the same claim again so I'll ask you again who are these other promoters who sit on their backsides waiting for the world to come to them ? Since you have complained about posters posting things which is in no way factual I presume you must have some factual basis for your claim, so who are they. ? Could it be David Gordon and David Hemsley who sat on their backsides until somebody built a couple of stadiums and gave it to them ? Would it be Jon Cook and Stuart Douglas who sat on their backsides until the local council and MP came to them and begged them to keep Lakeside open ? If not those then who are these who sit on there backsides doing nothing until the world comes to Them ? Please tell us. While we are at it who are these promoters you refer to who cannot keep their mouths shut and , in your words, spout off crap about Poole ? Do you have a link to anything they have said about Poole ? Who exactly said it , what was it and when ? Since you have told others to either put up or shut up then presumably you will be able to back up your own claims, otherwise you will be tarnished as the biggest idiot on the forum after Starman and someone who does exactly what they accuse others of doing, Anyway we will al wait to hear from you as to who these others are who sit around doing nothing until something drops into their lap . Names please. P.S. Since you have already mentioned others making comments that are in your opinion tantamount to libel I am sure your response will be defendable and factual. Edited April 12, 2016 by E I Addio 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 Well, lets have a look at that drivel you have just posted. In a similar post a few weeks ago you said that other promoters sit on their backsides waiting for the world to come to them. I asked you three times who these other promoters were but you failed to answer. You have now made the same claim again so I'll ask you again who are these other promoters who sit on their backsides waiting for the world to come to them ? Since you have complained about posters posting things which is in no way factual I presume you must have some factual basis for your claim, so who are they. ? Could it be David Gordon and David Hemsley who sat on their backsides until somebody built a couple of stadiums and gave it to them ? Would it be Jon Cook and Stuart Douglas who sat on their backsides until the local council and MP came to them and begged them to keep Lakeside open ? If not those then who are these who sit on there backsides doing nothing until the world comes to Them ? Please tell us. While we are at it who are these promoters you refer to who cannot keep their mouths shut and , in your words, spout off crap about Poole ? Do you have a link to anything they have said about Poole ? Who exactly said it , what was it and when ? Since you have told others to either put up or shut up then presumably you will be able to back up your own claims, otherwise you will be tarnished as the biggest idiot on the forum after Starman and someone who does exactly what they accuse others of doing, Anyway we will al wait to hear from you as to who these others are who sit around doing nothing until something drops into their lap . Names please. P.S. Since you have already mentioned others making comments that are in your opinion tantamount to libel I am sure your response will be defendable and factual. good luck with that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 theyll all be back when your top of the league We did in 2012 and no they didn't. Point proven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevH Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 (edited) The only Hilarious person on here is you except your not hilarious, you quite sad. So, can you quantify that.......exactly how many hilarious people are on here..........one, two, three? It's debatable whether the person you've chosen to try to look silly (which once again has backfired) has worked, but what is beyond debate is you are as t.a.f. Edited April 12, 2016 by KevH 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 good luck with that Can someone post her quote when she replies because I'm afraid I've got her on ignore as all the full stops give me a migraine. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 Can someone post her quote when she replies because I'm afraid I've got her on ignore as all the full stops give me a migraine. Come on Gemini..... you have seen enough of RPS posts to know she NEVER.... produces facts to support her..... position when called out.... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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