LisaColette Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 It will be earned by spending a chunk of that in reserve. Do you seriously believe MF will use him as a heat leader next season even if he reaches an average of 8 next season?? Developing British talent YES, MF (or any EL promoter) using Kyle as a heat leader next year? ? ZERO CHANCE! ! I'm not sure but think Skidder means if their average is based on them riding in just the 1-5 as people have said it is updated monthly, then even it us 7 then they will have proved themselves in that position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 I'm not sure but think Skidder means if their average is based on them riding in just the 1-5 as people have said it is updated monthly, then even it us 7 then they will have proved themselves in that position. We understand that. So now it's 2017, would you sign Newman on a 7.00 average? Really!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 We understand that. So now it's 2017, would you sign Newman on a 7.00 average? Really!! Depends if you think he can increase it or not, bet Leicester would 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beckettlion Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 Depends if you think he can increase it or not, bet Leicester would Leicester would sign him on the basis that he might actually say yes to us... if we can field 7 riders its a bonus for us! Bigger bonus if (like Kyle) they actually try to compete! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 He wouldn't say yes to Leicester if they stick to Saturdays!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 If I remember correctly, Smolinski started at reserve one season and had a great year for Birmingham and made himself unemployable - who would touch him on an 8+ average. The same applies to FDRs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 If I remember correctly, Smolinski started at reserve one season and had a great year for Birmingham and made himself unemployable - who would touch him on an 8+ average. The same applies to FDRs yes he did start reserve , but that was before protected heats and before reserves were in the main NL riders...he also got into the gp's so his average was about right.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 I'm not sure but think Skidder means if their average is based on them riding in just the 1-5 as people have said it is updated monthly, then even it us 7 then they will have proved themselves in that position. Yea I got what he meant. That said there is no way MF would employ him as a heat leader next year irregardless of how he did this year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 (edited) I wasn't suggesting as a heat leader, merely in the 1-5, as the next obvious step in his development!! Edited April 13, 2016 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 They better start thinking. Now about riders averages for next season,it's going to get a little bit messy.IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 I wasn't suggesting as a heat leader, merely in the 1-5, as the next obvious step in his development!! ok but if he is averaging anything from around 7 upwards then how can he possibly be riding at 2 or 4? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 (edited) It wasn't me who first used 'an 8 point average' as an example (it was Aces51 I think). My point was that if Newman (or Auty, Howarth, Worrall) finishes the 2016 season with a 1-5 spot and an average potentially equivalent to a good 2nd string/3rd heat leader position, then they will have earned that by riding in 'stronger races' and therefore could be considered for a 2017 1-5 place. Lets not forget that one of the proposals on the BSPA AGM table was for one or both second strings to be British!!! Edited April 13, 2016 by Skidder1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poole keith Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 teams have got to work within 2016 rules however they are going to create severe problems for 2017(averages all over the place)if also there is some form of amalgamation between leagues it will take some sorting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 I wasn't suggesting as a heat leader, merely in the 1-5, as the next obvious step in his development!! Which is great for Kyle. However if his average is 6 or over he will be unemployable in the EL in 2017. I seriously hope the BSPA have a plan for those who make a success of their elevation to the 1-5 for next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 Which is great for Kyle. However if his average is 6 or over he will be unemployable in the EL in 2017. I seriously hope the BSPA have a plan for those who make a success of their elevation to the 1-5 for next season. We've already seen there won't be a plan. If there was a plan it would have been in place from the start of the first season of the new format.There will be some conversion for such riders worked out at the end of the season, and it will be beneficial for Poole. And that's not a complaint about Poole, but those promoters who agree to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 (edited) We've already seen there won't be a plan. If there was a plan it would have been in place from the start of the first season of the new format. There will be some conversion for such riders worked out at the end of the season, and it will be beneficial for Poole. And that's not a complaint about Poole, but those promoters who agree to it. neil vatcher is the person who sorts the draft out , he has strong poole links being a fan yrs ago and craig boyce's mechanic, so the status quo will probly remain... Edited April 13, 2016 by heathen chemistry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 Which is great for Kyle. However if his average is 6 or over he will be unemployable in the EL in 2017. I seriously hope the BSPA have a plan for those who make a success of their elevation to the 1-5 for next season. The bspa have a plan for 2017? you are optimistic . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 We've already seen there won't be a plan. If there was a plan it would have been in place from the start of the first season of the new format. There will be some conversion for such riders worked out at the end of the season, and it will be beneficial for Poole. And that's not a complaint about Poole, but those promoters who agree to it. probably another PL conversion rate again. The bspa have a plan for 2017? you are optimistic . I like to dream A 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 (edited) Only a month in and already Kerr, Auty, Wright and Starke have improved their averages enough to move in to the top 5 Edited April 18, 2016 by mdmc82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunRobin Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 Only a month in and already Kerr, Auty, Wright and Starke have improved their averages enough to move in to the top 5From the BSPA website, it appears that Auty has been moved into the 1 - 5 although Starke has the highest average. This seems to support the view that only one of the EDR riders can move up & that the other remains permanently in the reserve spot. This is not in line with how the rule is written though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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