Tsunami Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 Such a fuss over fans wanting to leach something for free again, hiding behind the 'guise' of growing the sport. Speedway is simply falling in line with all other forms of entertainment. Do you go to the cinema and broadcast it on periscope? The theatre? Football matches? Cricket matches? Is it allowed in any of these places? I am amazed that others on here criticise the BSPA for their stance toward periscope, given your statement highlighted. Why wouldn't any organisation/company not protect it's product against those who are trying it get it for nowt. If it broke a business/sport the same folks would probably say "Typical BSPA, what did they expect if you give the product away free". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 (edited) I am amazed that others on here criticise the BSPA for their stance toward periscope, given your statement highlighted. Why wouldn't any organisation/company not protect it's product against those who are trying it get it for nowt. If it broke a business/sport the same folks would probably say "Typical BSPA, what did they expect if you give the product away free". Should an online service be launched where you paid to watch matches, I can guarantee you many of them will be after ways to get it for free as well. Edited April 13, 2016 by BWitcher 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 Would any promoter be able to prove beyond any doubt who actually periscopes the footage? They might be able to trace it to a particular phone/ account but surely they would have to prove whose finger pressed the button. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Skid Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 Would be very easy to police, some of the crowds are so low, they are known by their first names, John at Coventry phoned and said he'd be ten minutes late, so they delayed the start for him, now that's customer services for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudflaps Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 how easy would it be to sport a simple disguise to evade any banning orders... I have a Brian Blessed head mask and accompanying padded body suit if anyone would like to borrow it? Obviously for a small charge... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 how easy would it be to sport a simple disguise to evade any banning orders... I have a Brian Blessed head mask and accompanying padded body suit if anyone would like to borrow it? Obviously for a small charge... Where do you place the small charge and how is it detonated? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 Would any promoter be able to prove beyond any doubt who actually periscopes the footage? They might be able to trace it to a particular phone/ account but surely they would have to prove whose finger pressed the button. Exactly and along with other issues mentioned it is almost impossible for the bspa to do anything about it. The only possible action that could be taken is the club where the periscoping is taking place could ask the person doing it to stop or they could chuck them out of and ban them from that stadium only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 Would any promoter be able to prove beyond any doubt who actually periscopes the footage? They might be able to trace it to a particular phone/ account but surely they would have to prove whose finger pressed the button. Dead easy. Just look for direction the camera appears to be and get the in-house DVD man to zoom in and film them. Send for Security. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 Sorry but no. Could be 3 or 4 people taking pics but not periscoping all in the same general area, so that doesn't PROVE anything except that their phones are raised in their hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanF Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 I am amazed that others on here criticise the BSPA for their stance toward periscope, given your statement highlighted. Why wouldn't any organisation/company not protect it's product against those who are trying it get it for nowt. If it broke a business/sport the same folks would probably say "Typical BSPA, what did they expect if you give the product away free". I don't think the problem is really Periscope. I think that people are frustrated that they cannot access matches online, even if they are prepared to pay. Signing the rights away to Sky and then Sky not using them is surely a problem. Should an online service be launched where you paid to watch matches, I can guarantee you many of them will be after ways to get it for free as well. Of course they will. Whatever is for sale, some people will try and get for free. Surely better though to have 500 people paying and 50 people finding a way to get it for free, rather than have zero people paying for it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 Would any promoter be able to prove beyond any doubt who actually periscopes the footage? They might be able to trace it to a particular phone/ account but surely they would have to prove whose finger pressed the button. They open the periscope stream on their phone, seeing where it's being filmed from. Walk to that area, wait for the stream to start up, stand in front of the phone. Caught red handed. It wouldn't be hard to do. It's not like the terraces are packed full of people! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert72 Posted April 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 They made a massive thing about it again tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abbo Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 Only comment if Sky had the monopoly on Speedway which it used to have it would be different. Now we have to add to the cost if Speedway viewing to include BT Sport for GP's and World Cupt. That is to add to Coventry's contraversial decision to be the ONLY club in the UK to cease any allowance for elderly fans, shame on them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 (edited) Only comment if Sky had the monopoly on Speedway which it used to have it would be different. Now we have to add to the cost if Speedway viewing to include BT Sport for GP's and World Cupt. That is to add to Coventry's contraversial decision to be the ONLY club in the UK to cease any allowance for elderly fans, shame on them! If Sky hadn't been ripping people off for years with ludicrously high prices BT wouldn't have entered the market. Why should Sky have a monopoly? There is life beyond paying over far too much of your hard-earned cash to Sky you know. Edited April 14, 2016 by rmc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjsj9803 Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 (edited) Noone has to pay to watch any meeting easy to find on the net gone are the days I pay sky £70 robbing buggers Edited April 14, 2016 by rjsj9803 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 (edited) If Sky hadn't been ripping people off for years with ludicrously high prices BT wouldn't have entered the market. Why should Sky have a monopoly? There is life beyond paying over far too much of your hard-earned cash to Sky you know. Yes there is - now we have to Pay it all to both sky and BT Edited April 14, 2016 by Steve0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 (edited) Yes there is - now we have to Pay it all to both sky and BT You're missing the point. Look at the wider picture. As ever it's a little more complex than how it affects you. Sky now charge more for their services than they did when they had a monopoly. People are blaming BT for making them pay more overall when it's Sky, as ever, who are the real problem. They abused their monopoly position for years and still continue to overcharge to pay for their suicidal football deal. But the mugs still pay and bleat about another business naturally trying to undercut. Why not ditch the Sky leech to solve your problem? Edited April 14, 2016 by rmc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 You're missing the point. Look at the wider picture. As ever it's a little more complex than how it affects you. Sky now charge more for their services than they did when they had a monopoly. People are blaming BT for making them pay more overall when it's Sky, as ever, who are the real problem. They abused their monopoly position for years and still continue to overcharge to pay for their suicidal football deal. But the mugs still pay and bleat about another business naturally trying to undercut. Why not ditch the Sky leech to solve your problem? This is what people can not see. If hundreds of thousands cancelled sky they would either reduce their charges or pack up in the uk. People have power, do not complain, USE IT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 You're missing the point. Look at the wider picture. As ever it's a little more complex than how it affects you. Sky now charge more for their services than they did when they had a monopoly. People are blaming BT for making them pay more overall when it's Sky, as ever, who are the real problem. They abused their monopoly position for years and still continue to overcharge to pay for their suicidal football deal. But the mugs still pay and bleat about another business naturally trying to undercut. Why not ditch the Sky leech to solve your problem? I am not missing the point thanks very much - its just I don't agree with it! I am happy to pay Sky for the great service they provide. Yes I would like things to be cheaper but its not. Now that we have competition (another huge company in BT), I find that I am having to pay for Sky (for league matches) and if I want SWC and SGP, I now need to subscribe to BT therefore it is not good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 If you're out of contact with your broadband provider or, going to be soon, try what I did. I spoke to Sky told them I was going to cancel the sports, they did me a deal. I changed my broadband to BT, got fibre instead of adsl and BT Sport on my TV and tablet all for a total of £30 a month less than I was previously paying for Sky, phone and broadband. It's a 12 month deal with BT but I'm sure other deals will be about when it expires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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